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[Kokomo]

Originally posted by: Overkiller
Are your 2.8's @ 3.2? Also, i gamed (intensively) for about 4.5 hrs total yesterday so that equates into some down time...

Good for you. Guess I missed the fact this was a gaming topic.

 

[Orange Kid]

Does:

.0065 * CPU speed (in mhz) = Mpts/min
work for anyone else?

Maybe a different way to determine a way to set a standard, but as the CLI gives info as Mpts, thought this might be a way.

I figured this with only a hours worth of client data, so the validity of this info may be suspect.
Also, this is my first running of the client, so I may be a bit suspect


EDIT was to change formula slightly and clarify

 

[DanC]

The only thing that's going to be just a little bit tough is for those with remote systems - you can never be ENTIRELY sure that what you just dumped is ALL you dumped from a particular machine.

I'll have to ponder that. -- actually - I went to double-check MuonMonitor - and it does tell me how many particles. The only problem I guess is that I can't cut & paste. I do see that you can create a comma delimited file with it though - and plug into Excel. I'll futz with it.

 

[Overkiller]

haha orange kid. i like your post

Everyone try Out Orange Kid's Equation!!

For my AMD system there is a variation of under 1000 Mpts (over an entire day) which is normal b/c the pc IS used and the equation is probably a *highest yield*
For my Intel System it is 6000 Mpts off (which makes sense b/c the pc was used extensively for gaming fora few hrs).

I'll use this equation tomorrow to check my results and if this has a low standard deviation then we have found a *rough estimate* for our machines..now we just have to Compare a P4 @ 3.2 ghz vs. a Barton 2500+ @ 2.2 ghz (i'll be able to test this one soon )

Now something just hit me....there are no client optimizations that i know of...

So a Barton 2.2 ghz system should put out 20K Mpts/day *if* it ran @ stock speed. but with the system being overclocked then it should put out a few thousand more mpts/day [just think, the 1700+ @ 2.1 ghz does 20K mpts/day...with the barton having the extra cache & 100mhz advantage i forsee it actually doing 23-24K mpts/day]


While a P4 @ 3.2 puts out ~23-29 Mpts/day...

While i am not sure where i'm heading with this(i'm a tad bit tired ) i have a feeling that i will need non-overclocked systems to compare with overclocked ones.

So if anyone has non-overclocked systems (p3's, early p4's, Tbirds, non-overclocked Xp's/bartons, newer p4's) please specify if they are running at stock speed and give me the mpts/day...also use the equation to see if it substantiates your results..

For those that have overclcoked machines...just let me know what they *should* be running at and what they *do* run at
[i think a comparision of say a 1700+ @ 1.8 ghz to a stock barton 2500+ could be interesting]

-ok , enough rambling...send me your results :beer:

 

[r0tt3n1]

From my Duron 850, for the past 2 days:
file size 37k, 7750Mpts
file size 36k, 7566Mpts

 

[rybobcat]

From my 2.4 Ghz dual Xeon

File size 152k, 29756 Mpts

 

[Overkiller]

Thanks guys

keep em coming

 

[nickPOWERZ]

Athlon 2400+ stock, dual 256mb Crucial DDR 266 @ 2.5-?

24hrs = 19463 Mpts or 79KB or 75 results

This is my second run.

 

[Orange Kid]

My equation seems to be comming in at + or - 1000Mpts for a 24hr. run, except on that dual of rybobcat

Must refine it, and more info on that dual would help.

One thread or two running, normal usage?

 

[OverVolt]

Originally posted by: Orange Kid
My equation seems to be comming in at + or - 1000Mpts for a 24hr. run, except on that dual of rybobcat

Must refine it, and more info on that dual would help.

One thread or two running, normal usage?

Or the two CPU's could have been fighitng for memory bandwidth.

 

[rybobcat]

Originally posted by: Orange Kid
My equation seems to be comming in at + or - 1000Mpts for a 24hr. run, except on that dual of rybobcat

Must refine it, and more info on that dual would help.

One thread or two running, normal usage?

Its running 2 threads, Normal.

 

[Overkiller]

Originally posted by: Orange Kid
My equation seems to be comming in at + or - 1000Mpts for a 24hr. run, except on that dual of rybobcat

Must refine it, and more info on that dual would help.

One thread or two running, normal usage?

Is this dependent or independent on AMD vs. Intel ?
-B/c while there are no software optimizations for either architecture one has AMD's higher efficiency/MHZ compared to Intels wicked high MHZ...

 

[OverVolt]

Originally posted by: Overkiller

Originally posted by: Orange Kid
My equation seems to be comming in at + or - 1000Mpts for a 24hr. run, except on that dual of rybobcat

Must refine it, and more info on that dual would help.

One thread or two running, normal usage?

Is this dependent or independent on AMD vs. Intel ?
-B/c while there are no software optimizations for either architecture one has AMD's higher efficiency/MHZ compared to Intels wicked high MHZ...

i would say it depends if its an intel/amd my 1.7Ghz Athlon is almost on par with my 3.0C :Q

 

[Overkiller]

I really think that the client really scales linearly with cpu MHZ, be it intel or AMD.
Take the highest AMD system on this board and compare it to the highest INtel system ( my or kokomo's 3.2's [single systems not dual]) and the Intel is about ~7-10K Mpts above an AMD system at its highest speed..this is directly related to the mhz difference between a 2.2 ghz athlon and a 3.2 ghz Pentium...

Would u guys agree that this is what is coming forth?

As always...i thank you guys for going along w/ this...Keep it up..

 

[BlackMountainCow]

Going to give u my numbers for XP 2000+ Pal and XP 2500+ @ 3200+ Barton by 22.00 o'clock GMT +1 (German time)

 

[Overkiller]

[edit] dregged up this old thread...will get to putting these on my machines @ home shortly..can you guys do this as well and then doing this comparision will be MUCH MUCH MUCH easier

linky

Be sure to read to the end..he has an updated link for the benchmaking client...i can't wait to get home..tehehehe...this guide is gonna be cake now

 

[Overkiller]

bump

 

[BlackMountainCow]

In 45 minutes u gonna get my two cents!

 

[Kokomo]

Hope these results are helpful.

350 kpts/sec - Dual Xeon 2.4/Supermicro P4DC6/2x256 PC1066
230 kpts/sec - P4P 2.8/GigaByte 8IK1100/2x256 Corsair XMS LL
250 kpts/sec - P4C 2.8/Intel D875PBZLK/2x256 Kingston Value
250 kpts/sec - P4C 2.8/Intel D875PBZLK/2x256 Mushkin Level 1

Kpts/sec were averaged over several hours. Poor DPAD performance of P4P (Prescott) is disappointing, but it runs with the Xeon on SETI (20 WUs a day). All settings are stock.

Variations in my posted daily Mpts are the result of my experiments with memory, mobos, etc., and sticking an AMD 2400 in the mix from time to time.

Good job, Overkiller. Looking forward the the guide. :beer:

 

[Kokomo]

Originally posted by: BlackMountainCow
In 45 minutes u gonna get my two cents!

Be waiting.

Spent 6 years of my life in Wiesbaden, BTW. PM me.

 

[amdxborg]

Great find Overkiller!

 

[BlackMountainCow]

24h test:

AMD Athlon XP 2000+ (all at stock) with 512 MB 266FSB RAM

- 171,00 kpts/sec
- 56 results + 2 quarantined runs --> 66 results
- best yield: 9,866
- Mpts: ca. 14800


AMD Athlon XP 2500+ @ 3200+ (just 200 FSB) with 256MB 400FSB RAM

- 252,51 kpts/sec
- 105 results + 1 quarantined run --> 115
- best yield: 9,863
- Mpts: ca. 22300


Hope this helps u a bit Overkiller. Gonna give u some stats for a PIII 600 tomorrow. And I think it's intereting that my 3200+ is even with Kokomo's 2.8 P4. So on the one hand we got 2.2 GHz versus 2.8 GHz. BUt then we got a 3200+ rating (I know it's not really equal) versus a "2800" rating.

 

[Orange Kid]

last 24 hrs gave me 16321.4 Mpts, forgot about the file size thinggy though

This is on a

Barton 2500 underclocked @1.7 ghz -- Yes I need a new MOBO

Never enough hours in a day

Will try running the new proggy ASAP

 

[Stormgiant]

I'm averaging about 315kpts...
with the new memory that should arrive next week, i could get well near 350...

P4 2600@3500 with 1GBDDR400

 

[BlackMountainCow]

24h:

Pentium III 600
256 MB RAM
Results: 12 (one recheck run with 7)
MPts: 3644


Hey, I know it's not much but in a week that's 25.000 points