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lxskllr

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A lot of times amazon is cheaper or the same price, buying from the exact same vendor that also sells off amazon. Kind of annoys me. We can both win if I buy from your store directly, but you aren't setup that way.

An example(all numbers made up, shouldn't be construed as accurate)

An item sells for $10 on amazon. The vendor gets $8, and amazon gets a $2 cut. Instead of selling for the exact same price on their own site, they could sell for $9. I save $1, and they make an extra $1, but a lot of the time, it doesn't work that way.
 

Muse

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A lot of times amazon is cheaper or the same price, buying from the exact same vendor that also sells off amazon. Kind of annoys me. We can both win if I buy from your store directly, but you aren't setup that way.

An example(all numbers made up, shouldn't be construed as accurate)

An item sells for $10 on amazon. The vendor gets $8, and amazon gets a $2 cut. Instead of selling for the exact same price on their own site, they could sell for $9. I save $1, and they make an extra $1, but a lot of the time, it doesn't work that way.
Free shipping is what I always go for at Amazon. Used to be minimum $25 in cart and if shipped by Amazon, there's no shipping charge. That went up to $35 a few years ago, went down to $25 again (they realized they were losing money having jacked it up, evidently) and then back to $35 where it's stayed. Sometimes Amazon has a 3rd party sending an item, often shipping is free.

I try for the lowest price I can find (including shipping, of course). Google searches often turn up sites I'd never think to look. I also check out ebay a lot. Often Ebay has higher prices even for used but sometimes great deals are to be found on ebay. Plenty of junk listings on ebay including ridiculously high asking prices, they must think there's dummies out there that don't know a dollar from a donut. Shopping ebay has changed quite a bit over the years. I used to bid on stuff and try to snipe highest bidder at the deadline. Not anymore. Buy-it-Now is very very common now and I almost never pay attention to anything else. It's important to have a canny sense when shopping ebay. Scroll down and figure out what's going on. Sloppy sellers can work, but it's better to go with sellers who are evidently conscientious and fair. There's tons of great sellers on ebay. Charities are often really good sources for virtually new or actually new merchandise sold as used at good prices with free shipping.
 
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$308/week doesn't seem too outrageous. I'm a bit over $100/week, and I shop discount places mostly, and don't really buy meat. It's also just me and the cats.
Idk... For my wife and myself, I spent anywhere from $80-$130/week for groceries, going to a standard grocery store. And I'm not trying to be bare bones cheap or anything. But we also don't buy meat; and fish might be an every other week thing.
 

Chaotic42

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Yeah, the shipping is where the real value is with Amazon. I was just on a site that had good prices for some oils and such that I needed. It had a $150 minimum, but it doesn't go bad, so I figured why not?

The answer to why not is that shipping was $156 and that would be $0 on Amazon, which, while more expensive, isn't twice the cost.
 

Muse

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Amazon is removing the ability to download Kindle books to your PC. If you want to archive you books to you PC you need to do it before the 26th. Going forward I won't be purchasing Kindle books or ereaders.
YES!!! Thank you! If that's accurate, I have another 3:15 to download any titles to my PC.

I just downloaded and installed Kindle for PC and Mac. What a BITCH installing it. First they want my password. My usual Amazon sign in won't work, so I get my PW and install it and I had to endure the worst let's prove it's you I've seen maybe ever. You know the kind, 9 rectangles, click the ones with beds, or chairs, or curtains. I went through about a dozen of those before it would accept I am who I say I am. Then I see my collection and it's about 100 titles. I downloaded practically all of them. Around 10 have limits, being can't install more than once, if you want to install on another device you evidently have to buy it again! :rolleyes: Anyway, I have some great great books. Lots of my books are self help books that were free and I've never even looked at them, but they have great titles. Most of those are probably crap, but some probably aren't bad at all.

Quite a few titles I have I've read and could read again. Many are famous classics I've never read. All on my PC now, and AFAIK all on my Kindle and presumably if they aren't on my Kindle I can download them anytime to my Kindle (Paperwhite Version 2).

I have had Kindles since 2011, the first a Kindle Keyboard 3G. That was relatively crappy compared to the Paperwhite I bought in 2015, which I'm still using. AFAIK the more recent ones aren't much better, not enough to warrant a purchase. My Paperwhite really is amazing. And I discovered this recently: Turn off Wifi and the battery lasts waaaaaaaaaaaay longer. The only reason to have Wifi on AFAIK is to download titles to the Kindle, which is something I only rarely do. Leaving the Wifi on appears to run the battery down even when you're not reading a book, i.e. when the screen goes to battery saver image. Only turning off Wifi actually stops battery drain, or close to it. Even with Wifi on, my Paperwhite has good battery life, but I sometimes don't use my Kindle for weeks and I'll open it and find the battery drained or close to it, so keeping Wifi off totally makes sense for me.

Um, I wonder if I have to do this all over again if I want to do this for my other main laptop. All before midnight. Hmm. Anyway, I figure I like reading from the Kindle more than off a computer screen. But the Kindle for PC app does show what all my titles are much much better than the Kindle does, so seeing the book covers in the PC app is very useful.

I'm wondering if I will have this if I reinstall Windows! I plan to do that soon. Maybe I can copy the app and subdirectories and restore that, maybe not. Oddly, the installation was very unorthodox. It did not have me choose an installation location. It defaulted to something somewhere but I don't know where. Looking:

C:\Users\<myname>\AppData\Local\Amazon\Kindle

C:\Users\<myname>\OneDrive\Documents\My Kindle Content

My Kindle Content has 145 folders containing 460MB

Each of those folders has 4-5 files in it.
 
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balloonshark

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YES!!! Thank you! If that's accurate, I have another 3:15 to download any titles to my PC.

I just downloaded and installed Kindle for PC and Mac. What a BITCH installing it. First they want my password. My usual Amazon sign in won't work, so I get my PW and install it and I had to endure the worst let's prove it's you I've seen maybe ever. You know the kind, 9 rectangles, click the ones with beds, or chairs, or curtains. I went through about a dozen of those before it would accept I am who I say I am. Then I see my collection and it's about 100 titles. I downloaded practically all of them. Around 10 have limits, being can't install more than once, if you want to install on another device you evidently have to buy it again! :rolleyes: Anyway, I have some great great books. Lots of my books are self help books that were free and I've never even looked at them, but they have great titles. Most of those are probably crap, but some probably aren't bad at all.

Quite a few titles I have I've read and could read again. Many are famous classics I've never read. All on my PC now, and AFAIK all on my Kindle and presumably if they aren't on my Kindle I can download them anytime to my Kindle (Paperwhite Version 2).

I have had Kindles since 2011, the first a Kindle Keyboard 3G. That was relatively crappy compared to the Paperwhite I bought in 2015, which I'm still using. AFAIK the more recent ones aren't much better, not enough to warrant a purchase. My Paperwhite really is amazing. And I discovered this recently: Turn off Wifi and the battery lasts waaaaaaaaaaaay longer. The only reason to have Wifi on AFAIK is to download titles to the Kindle, which is something I only rarely do. Leaving the Wifi on appears to run the battery down even when you're not reading a book, i.e. when the screen goes to battery saver image. Only turning off Wifi actually stops battery drain, or close to it. Even with Wifi on, my Paperwhite has good battery life, but I sometimes don't use my Kindle for weeks and I'll open it and find the battery drained or close to it, so keeping Wifi off totally makes sense for me.

Um, I wonder if I have to do this all over again if I want to do this for my other main laptop. All before midnight. Hmm. Anyway, I figure I like reading from the Kindle more than off a computer screen. But the Kindle for PC app does show what all my titles are much much better than the Kindle does, so seeing the book covers in the PC app is very useful.

I'm wondering if I will have this if I reinstall Windows! I plan to do that soon. Maybe I can copy the app and subdirectories and restore that, maybe not. Oddly, the installation was very unorthodox. It did not have me choose an installation location. It defaulted to something somewhere but I don't know where. Looking:

C:\Users\<myname>\AppData\Local\Amazon\Kindle

C:\Users\<myname>\OneDrive\Documents\My Kindle Content

My Kindle Content has 145 folders containing 460MB

Each of those folders has 4-5 files in it.
There are ways to strip the drm from the files you download so you can backup and read your books anywhere. You will have to search for how to do that yourself.

Amazon has tons of free classic books to read. Search for "free classic books" and then sort from price low to high and pick a category.

Here's a link that has cheap and free classic books. https://www.amazon.com/b?node=2245146011

Another link: https://www.amazon.com/free-classics-Kindle-Store/s?k=free+classics&rh=n:133140011
 
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MrSquished

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There are ways to strip the drm from the files you download so you can backup and read your books anywhere. You will have to search for how to do that yourself.

Amazon has tons of free classic books to read. Search for "free classic books" and then sort from price low to high and pick a category.

Here's a link that has cheap and free classic books. https://www.amazon.com/b?node=2245146011

Another link: https://www.amazon.com/free-classics-Kindle-Store/s?k=free+classics&rh=n:133140011
Yes there are free books to read on the kindle, but you have to have a kindle. There is no way now to strip the DRM now and keep them.
 

Muse

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Yes there are free books to read on the kindle, but you have to have a kindle. There is no way now to strip the DRM now and keep them.
I bought my Kindle Paperwhite Version 2 about 10 years ago for $99. I see no reason to "upgrade," there may be one, but my Kindle's battery life is great with wifi turned off, the screen is great, brightness adjustable, I can pick font, size, the controls AFAIK are there and work fine, I have dictionary lookup of any word that's in a title I bought (AFAIK).

The neat thing about Kindle is I can go anywhere and have 100+ books with me. I still buy a LOT of hardbound and paperback books. Really a lot more than Kindle books. But they take up space and I have an issue with finding them sometimes. Kindle solves that. But illustrations are better on paper, a big consideration sometimes. Paper seems more authentic to me, but this is at least partly due my personal attitudes.
 
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balloonshark

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Yes there are free books to read on the kindle, but you have to have a kindle. There is no way now to strip the DRM now and keep them.
I meant for the files he already downloaded. Or did his downloaded files change today because of the deadline?
 

Muse

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oh no. yes all already downloaded files are fine
So are files already downloaded DRM free?

Can I back up the downloaded specific book folders to storage and put on a different PC? Or my PC after I fresh install Windows 10?
 

sdifox

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So are files already downloaded DRM free?

Can I back up the downloaded specific book folders to storage and put on a different PC? Or my PC after I fresh install Windows 10?
No. You need to crack it.
 

DaaQ

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Well crap, I did the 2 free credits on Audible, for the Death Gate Cycle. Read them back in the day, but they have really passed some time at work on the boring "snow" days.