DOW possibly at 4700 by Tuesday

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Dissipate

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Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Monday bounce?? Are we just seeing a burst balloon flapping from an injection of hot air??

Welcome to the Legislative Lottery! When Congress votes you too can be a winner! *plays clown music*
 

Possessed Freak

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Well, since I started my Roth IRA, it has been in a savings account earning pennies for 4 years. I just had it transferred over to the market on Thursday and it entered the market on Friday. I also moved over my pension plan into the market. Finally, I took most of my savings that has been earning .5% for the past decade and also tossed that in.

Time for me to ride the wave.
 

halik

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Originally posted by: Possessed Freak
Well, since I started my Roth IRA, it has been in a savings account earning pennies for 4 years. I just had it transferred over to the market on Thursday and it entered the market on Friday. I also moved over my pension plan into the market. Finally, I took most of my savings that has been earning .5% for the past decade and also tossed that in.

Time for me to ride the wave.

Brilliant move actually (i'm assuming that you're nowhere near 55)
 

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No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Possessed Freak
Well, since I started my Roth IRA, it has been in a savings account earning pennies for 4 years. I just had it transferred over to the market on Thursday and it entered the market on Friday. I also moved over my pension plan into the market. Finally, I took most of my savings that has been earning .5% for the past decade and also tossed that in.

Time for me to ride the wave.
Oh damn, if this was mostly the bottom you timed it superbly.

 

Possessed Freak

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Possessed Freak
Well, since I started my Roth IRA, it has been in a savings account earning pennies for 4 years. I just had it transferred over to the market on Thursday and it entered the market on Friday. I also moved over my pension plan into the market. Finally, I took most of my savings that has been earning .5% for the past decade and also tossed that in.

Time for me to ride the wave.
Oh damn, if this was mostly the bottom you timed it superbly.

It might not be the bottom, but I will still be ahead of the others for years if it recovers back to the prior levels. It is strange, I am a gambling man by nature on a lot of things... except my retirement funds. On this I have always been as docile as a cow. But I couldn't say no when this happened.
 

rpanic

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Almost same boat moved mine to money market account when DOW was at 13500. Still thinking market has a few thousand to drop then I am back in.
 

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No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Possessed Freak
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Possessed Freak
Well, since I started my Roth IRA, it has been in a savings account earning pennies for 4 years. I just had it transferred over to the market on Thursday and it entered the market on Friday. I also moved over my pension plan into the market. Finally, I took most of my savings that has been earning .5% for the past decade and also tossed that in.

Time for me to ride the wave.
Oh damn, if this was mostly the bottom you timed it superbly.

It might not be the bottom, but I will still be ahead of the others for years if it recovers back to the prior levels. It is strange, I am a gambling man by nature on a lot of things... except my retirement funds. On this I have always been as docile as a cow. But I couldn't say no when this happened.
I think you did spectacularly, very potentially one of those things you'll never be able to repeat again in your life. The seed is now almost twice as big as if you invested at 14k, so instead of retiring with, say, $600k you'll have $1M simply because of the timing. That presumes the end of the world doesn't come, but in any case, even if we drop another 2k you're way ahead, relatively speaking.

 

ultimatebob

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Ah Kramer.... this guy who recommend buying a Louisiana insurance stock two days before hurricane Katrina hit mainland. What a tool.
 

daniel49

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Originally posted by: Ferocious
So says Cramer

I think the guy is part looney.

But even if the actual downside drop is 'only' half that, we might see a 2000 drop point drop quickly.

:shocked:

hmm up 900 on monday. guess that disgraces his advice and wisdom?
 

sactoking

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Cramer : Uppity pricks with too much money :: Suze Orman : Idiots who waste money the second they get it

They're both snake oil salesmen.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: Skoorb
It would seem that there is often a rally before it drops again. If I can get the time today I will get a trading account setup and put some money in it but not buy yet, too.

Of course, I know close to nothing, so I wouldn't follow my advice too closely. If the pros are completely missing the ball here I cannot presume to be better.

Right now the market is rallying because of announced government plans. When the news breaks of some government bailout/credit injection the market rallies. Then when reality sets in it tanks again. Government does something else in response to market tanking, market rallies, then tanks. Rinse repeat.

Apparently you have missed the last 30 years of history. :laugh:
 

mshan

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I kind of think that Cramer was being fairly honest in his comments, at that particular time.

He probably know that GS and JPM were going to issue massive margin calls on Monday, even though he chose not to share that information with his loyal viewers.

But, European countries probably knew the same, were pissed at Paulson's power play to create pre-ordained U. S. super banks that would later feed on the carcasses of depleted European banks, and got their act together, acted decisively, and in a very bold manner.

Unless it becomes manifest that we are going to have a very deep recession that is going to last well over 2 years, gotta really wonder if "the" bottom has now been put in place (even though there might be a retest at some point)...

 

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No Lifer
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Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: Ferocious
So says Cramer

I think the guy is part looney.

But even if the actual downside drop is 'only' half that, we might see a 2000 drop point drop quickly.

:shocked:

hmm up 900 on monday. guess that disgraces his advice and wisdom?
On Friday he said BUY on Monday and on tuesday so he will be quite high and mighty on his show today. He was only speculating with the other figures.

 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Ah Kramer.... this guy who recommend buying a Louisiana insurance stock two days before hurricane Katrina hit mainland. What a tool.

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Now we have 4700 off the table by Tuesday at least.

and you guys jab at me for my reasonable predictions.

I should be off the wall like this guy though, at least he gets rich from it.
 

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Lifer
Jun 3, 2002
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So, um, where are all the Paulbots? Not that today proves much, but come on, who didn't see this coming?
 

mshan

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For anyone who couldn't sleep at night recently, but couldn't pull the trigger and sell, might I suggest reverse dollar cost averaging out of speculative positions / investments you don't have long term confidence in, as per this Fast Money trader's upside target of say S&P 500 1150 - 1180?: http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=888556428&play=1

Today could have been "the" bottom, though we don't know if there will be a retest, and there is still uncertainty as to whether this recession might be very deep and last well over 2 years.

(also remember that mom and pop follow the 30 stock price-weighted Dow, professional money managers follow the market capitalization weighted S & P 500 index of 500 large cap stocks)

 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Hmm... I just got into the market for the first time today... Not too bad!

Good for you :) I bought several companies last week, and advised everyone here to...Ive gotten approx 35% NET today. Not too shabby. If I day traded Id put in a sell order for tomorrow AM.