Doubletalk Express Keeps Chugging: McCain On Katrina

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: wirelessenabled

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Katrina is only an issue to those that want to blame Bush for the disaster of the local and state "leaders" who failed. IMO, the FEDS have done plenty and it's way past time for the local and state to stop blaming others and do what they were supposed to do before but failed at.

Isn't it the United States Corps of Engineers? whose levee design failed.

What does that have to do with my post?

I guess you aren't smart enough to figure this one out so I will spell it out for you.

The United States Army Corp of Engineers is not under the command or hierarchy of any local or state government entity. They report to the federal government. They are the ones responsible for not building/maintaining the levees.

What the hell does the United States Army Corp of Engineers have to do with cleanup and rescue operations for which so many people blame Bush for?

Levee failure and repair is a separate issue you tried to interject into what CADsortaGUY is talking about.

Yep, seems the BDS has prevented him from actually reading what I posted.

How is the poor maintainence and design of the levees which allowed the disaster to happen in the first place not relevant to the "disaster"? Sure the response was a disaster too, but that doesn't change the fact that a response would have been largely unnecessary if the federal government had done its job in the first place.

So what if the state and local governments screwed up too? Yeah that sucks, but don't forget that FEMA is the overarching agency that is supposed to be able to marshal all the resources of the federal government to help out when something this big happens. It failed. Miserably. Significantly contributed to by under funding and cronyism.

But anyways, as Lemon Law said... they picked McCain this time because the Republican presidential field was totally pathetic. They picked the best of the worst lot of presidential candidates in my lifetime. (with the possible exception of 2004 Democratic nominees)

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: wirelessenabled

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Katrina is only an issue to those that want to blame Bush for the disaster of the local and state "leaders" who failed. IMO, the FEDS have done plenty and it's way past time for the local and state to stop blaming others and do what they were supposed to do before but failed at.

Isn't it the United States Corps of Engineers? whose levee design failed.

What does that have to do with my post?

I guess you aren't smart enough to figure this one out so I will spell it out for you.

The United States Army Corp of Engineers is not under the command or hierarchy of any local or state government entity. They report to the federal government. They are the ones responsible for not building/maintaining the levees.

What the hell does the United States Army Corp of Engineers have to do with cleanup and rescue operations for which so many people blame Bush for?

Levee failure and repair is a separate issue you tried to interject into what CADsortaGUY is talking about.

Yep, seems the BDS has prevented him from actually reading what I posted.

How is the poor maintainence and design of the levees which allowed the disaster to happen in the first place not relevant to the "disaster"? Sure the response was a disaster too, but that doesn't change the fact that a response would have been largely unnecessary if the federal government had done its job in the first place.

So what if the state and local governments screwed up too? Yeah that sucks, but don't forget that FEMA is the overarching agency that is supposed to be able to marshal all the resources of the federal government to help out when something this big happens. It failed. Miserably. Significantly contributed to by under funding and cronyism.

But anyways, as Lemon Law said... they picked McCain this time because the Republican presidential field was totally pathetic. They picked the best of the worst lot of presidential candidates in my lifetime. (with the possible exception of 2004 Democratic nominees)

It's not relevant to what I posted. Please try reading my post again.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Dari
Well, considering that this storm hit several states, it automatically becomes a federal issue. The federal government is there to coordinate action between the states. The worst thing it could do is nothing, which is what happened with Katrina.

But, this was a distraction on CAd's part to move the issue away from McCain. This guy, with his age, will be far worse than Bush in terms of competence. At least Bush was just stubborn and stupid. McCain is stubborn, stupid, and unreliable.

Wrong, it's still that local a state's responsibility for any initial reaction, plus the Feds did help with coordination - they did not do "nothing". Which ironically is pretty much what nagin and the state did.... nothing.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: wirelessenabled

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Katrina is only an issue to those that want to blame Bush for the disaster of the local and state "leaders" who failed. IMO, the FEDS have done plenty and it's way past time for the local and state to stop blaming others and do what they were supposed to do before but failed at.

Isn't it the United States Corps of Engineers? whose levee design failed.

What does that have to do with my post?

I guess you aren't smart enough to figure this one out so I will spell it out for you.

The United States Army Corp of Engineers is not under the command or hierarchy of any local or state government entity. They report to the federal government. They are the ones responsible for not building/maintaining the levees.

What the hell does the United States Army Corp of Engineers have to do with cleanup and rescue operations for which so many people blame Bush for?

Levee failure and repair is a separate issue you tried to interject into what CADsortaGUY is talking about.

Yep, seems the BDS has prevented him from actually reading what I posted.

How is the poor maintainence and design of the levees which allowed the disaster to happen in the first place not relevant to the "disaster"? Sure the response was a disaster too, but that doesn't change the fact that a response would have been largely unnecessary if the federal government had done its job in the first place.

So what if the state and local governments screwed up too? Yeah that sucks, but don't forget that FEMA is the overarching agency that is supposed to be able to marshal all the resources of the federal government to help out when something this big happens. It failed. Miserably. Significantly contributed to by under funding and cronyism.

But anyways, as Lemon Law said... they picked McCain this time because the Republican presidential field was totally pathetic. They picked the best of the worst lot of presidential candidates in my lifetime. (with the possible exception of 2004 Democratic nominees)

It's not relevant to what I posted. Please try reading my post again.

Nope, still directly relevant.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Dari
Well, considering that this storm hit several states, it automatically becomes a federal issue. The federal government is there to coordinate action between the states. The worst thing it could do is nothing, which is what happened with Katrina.

But, this was a distraction on CAd's part to move the issue away from McCain. This guy, with his age, will be far worse than Bush in terms of competence. At least Bush was just stubborn and stupid. McCain is stubborn, stupid, and unreliable.

Wrong, it's still that local a state's responsibility for any initial reaction, plus the Feds did help with coordination - they did not do "nothing". Which ironically is pretty much what nagin and the state did.... nothing.

Some help there:roll:. The state may have fucked up big time but the Feds was complicit. And Nagin fucked up as well. Stop trying to defend one group while laying the entire blame on another. Everyone here let the people of Mississippi and Louisana down.