Doubletalk Express Keeps Chugging: McCain On Katrina

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How different is McSame on Katrina? It doesn't bode well that he shared a happy, cake-filled photo-op with Bush when hundreds were dying and New Orleans was flooded in one of the most costly (in terms of dollars and lives) disasters in our nation's modern history.

McCain said this week:

I would?ve landed my airplane at the nearest Air Force base and come over personally.

Newsweek argues this:

?Yet on the issue of New Orleans, it?s still unclear how different McCain and Bush actually are,? Newsweek writes, noting that McCain has visited the Ninth Ward only twice since the storm. ?The senator won?t present his own plans for recovery, at least not today.?
 

Ldir

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It is double talk. He also voted against some of the relief bills.
 

Mursilis

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Well of course he's pandering!! What's he supposed to do?!?! :roll: No one votes for a president anymore - we vote for the best year-round Santa Claus, and thus, we get the politicians we deserve!
 

nageov3t

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based on the way Bush / FEMA / refugees used katrina funds, I can't blame him for voting against them.
 

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Originally posted by: loki8481
based on the way Bush / FEMA / refugees used katrina funds, I can't blame him for voting against them.
And yet he also voted against investigating those very same claims of fraud and waste?

:confused:
 

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Meanwhile the Mississippi is already overflowing downstream in New Orleans that they had to open the spillway for the first time since 1997 and upstream has 14 inches of rain that just fell in the last couple of days.

If the Corp cannot shed enough water before the Baton Rouge split New Orleans is going under water this time from the Mighty Misssip.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Katrina is only an issue to those that want to blame Bush for the disaster of the local and state "leaders" who failed. IMO, the FEDS have done plenty and it's way past time for the local and state to stop blaming others and do what they were supposed to do before but failed at.
 

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Katrina is only an issue to those that want to blame Bush for the disaster of the local and state "leaders" who failed. IMO, the FEDS have done plenty and it's way past time for the local and state to stop blaming others and do what they were supposed to do before but failed at.

You must not follow current events very well. McCain raised the issue. He said the government failed and it would never happen under his presidency. Check the OP.
 

Atreus21

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Katrina is only an issue to those that want to blame Bush for the disaster of the local and state "leaders" who failed. IMO, the FEDS have done plenty and it's way past time for the local and state to stop blaming others and do what they were supposed to do before but failed at.

Yes. Exactly. Precisely.

:thumbsup:
 

Atreus21

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Originally posted by: Ldir
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Katrina is only an issue to those that want to blame Bush for the disaster of the local and state "leaders" who failed. IMO, the FEDS have done plenty and it's way past time for the local and state to stop blaming others and do what they were supposed to do before but failed at.

You must not follow current events very well. McCain raised the issue. He said the government failed and it would never happen under his presidency. Check the OP.

I think he's just pandering, and i don't care. I don't expect the government to bail me out, and McCain shouldn't either.
 

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Juan McWar and the sellout-express is just about out of gas, and soon he'll be forced to detour to the nearest retirement home.
 

Lemon law

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Lets be a little fair, McCain could not be possibly more negligent about Katrina than GWB&co. were. Its bad enough that GWB&co gives the Katrina treatment to the countries we occupy, but when he gives it to US citizens, that is an outrage. The damn fact is that both political parties have been missing in action about getting anything done even after the three year mark.

Both parties are gutless wimps who have their head stuck up their own ass.
 

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From loki8481-

based on the way Bush / FEMA / refugees used katrina funds, I can't blame him for voting against them.

What a cheap shot. 250K+ people were displaced by Katrina, but you'll generalize the conduct of a few into a case against the many.

The response to Katrina simply illustrates that repub contempt of govt as incompetent is a self-fulfilling prophesy with them in charge.

Maybe you'll want to save some of that slime for the election, ehh?

McSame in more ways than one- same policy, same duh-versions from the choirboys, same slime from the usual suspects...
 

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Katrina is only an issue to those that want to blame Bush for the disaster of the local and state "leaders" who failed. IMO, the FEDS have done plenty and it's way past time for the local and state to stop blaming others and do what they were supposed to do before but failed at.

Isn't it the United States Corps of Engineers? whose levee design failed.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Ldir
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Katrina is only an issue to those that want to blame Bush for the disaster of the local and state "leaders" who failed. IMO, the FEDS have done plenty and it's way past time for the local and state to stop blaming others and do what they were supposed to do before but failed at.

You must not follow current events very well. McCain raised the issue. He said the government failed and it would never happen under his presidency. Check the OP.

Uh, I could care less what McCain said about it. I'm talking about the people here who keep bringing up Katrina.

But as to what McCain said - he's FOS. It would have happened no matter who was President because the state and local gov't were disasterously inept. It is NEVER the Fed's responsibility for first response to a natural disaster.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: wirelessenabled
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Katrina is only an issue to those that want to blame Bush for the disaster of the local and state "leaders" who failed. IMO, the FEDS have done plenty and it's way past time for the local and state to stop blaming others and do what they were supposed to do before but failed at.

Isn't it the United States Corps of Engineers? whose levee design failed.

What does that have to do with my post?
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Katrina is only an issue to those that want to blame Bush for the disaster of the local and state "leaders" who failed. IMO, the FEDS have done plenty and it's way past time for the local and state to stop blaming others and do what they were supposed to do before but failed at.
What does this have to do with McSame's flip flop?
 

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McCain flip-flopped during his run in 2000, he will do it again if he gets the presidency. I have no idea how the repubs forgot about his pathetic run in 2000 and picked him as nominee this time around. really sad.
 

Lemon law

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Originally posted by: spittledip
McCain flip-flopped during his run in 2000, he will do it again if he gets the presidency. I have no idea how the repubs forgot about his pathetic run in 2000 and picked him as nominee this time around. really sad.
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McCain was aided in the fact that his GOP opposition was really really bad. Stinking bad in fact.
As the only Republican in that field who had any kind of a record of being critical of GWB, he soared to the top. And at the same time its apparent that the GOP just plain mis read their own voting public. Had a genuine moderate like Chuck Hagel run, I think McCain would have lost, but the fact is, the remaining GOP moderates of any stature were even older than McCain
and declined to run.

Romney might have had a good chance if he ran on his record as a GOP moderate Governor of a blue State, but instead decided to reinvent himself as a born again conservative and ended up looking totally phony in the process. And then found the religious right vote he needed going to the genuine article in Huckabee.

At least IMHO, McCain is the best of a bad lot.
 

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: wirelessenabled
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Katrina is only an issue to those that want to blame Bush for the disaster of the local and state "leaders" who failed. IMO, the FEDS have done plenty and it's way past time for the local and state to stop blaming others and do what they were supposed to do before but failed at.

Isn't it the United States Corps of Engineers? whose levee design failed.

What does that have to do with my post?

I guess you aren't smart enough to figure this one out so I will spell it out for you.

The United States Army Corp of Engineers is not under the command or hierarchy of any local or state government entity. They report to the federal government. They are the ones responsible for not building/maintaining the levees.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: wirelessenabled
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Katrina is only an issue to those that want to blame Bush for the disaster of the local and state "leaders" who failed. IMO, the FEDS have done plenty and it's way past time for the local and state to stop blaming others and do what they were supposed to do before but failed at.

Isn't it the United States Corps of Engineers? whose levee design failed.

What does that have to do with my post?

I guess you aren't smart enough to figure this one out so I will spell it out for you.

The United States Army Corp of Engineers is not under the command or hierarchy of any local or state government entity. They report to the federal government. They are the ones responsible for not building/maintaining the levees.

What the hell does the United States Army Corp of Engineers have to do with cleanup and rescue operations for which so many people blame Bush for?

Levee failure and repair is a separate issue you tried to interject into what CADsortaGUY is talking about.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: wirelessenabled
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Katrina is only an issue to those that want to blame Bush for the disaster of the local and state "leaders" who failed. IMO, the FEDS have done plenty and it's way past time for the local and state to stop blaming others and do what they were supposed to do before but failed at.

Isn't it the United States Corps of Engineers? whose levee design failed.

What does that have to do with my post?

I guess you aren't smart enough to figure this one out so I will spell it out for you.

The United States Army Corp of Engineers is not under the command or hierarchy of any local or state government entity. They report to the federal government. They are the ones responsible for not building/maintaining the levees.

What the hell does the United States Army Corp of Engineers have to do with cleanup and rescue operations for which so many people blame Bush for?

Levee failure and repair is a separate issue you tried to interject into what CADsortaGUY is talking about.

Yep, seems the BDS has prevented him from actually reading what I posted.
 

Dari

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: wirelessenabled
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Katrina is only an issue to those that want to blame Bush for the disaster of the local and state "leaders" who failed. IMO, the FEDS have done plenty and it's way past time for the local and state to stop blaming others and do what they were supposed to do before but failed at.

Isn't it the United States Corps of Engineers? whose levee design failed.

What does that have to do with my post?

I guess you aren't smart enough to figure this one out so I will spell it out for you.

The United States Army Corp of Engineers is not under the command or hierarchy of any local or state government entity. They report to the federal government. They are the ones responsible for not building/maintaining the levees.

What the hell does the United States Army Corp of Engineers have to do with cleanup and rescue operations for which so many people blame Bush for?

Levee failure and repair is a separate issue you tried to interject into what CADsortaGUY is talking about.

Yep, seems the BDS has prevented him from actually reading what I posted.

Well, considering that this storm hit several states, it automatically becomes a federal issue. The federal government is there to coordinate action between the states. The worst thing it could do is nothing, which is what happened with Katrina.

But, this was a distraction on CAd's part to move the issue away from McCain. This guy, with his age, will be far worse than Bush in terms of competence. At least Bush was just stubborn and stupid. McCain is stubborn, stupid, and unreliable.