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DarkKnight69

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What would be better for overclocking?

735 Dothan @ 1.6Ghz (400FSB)
740 Dothan @ 1.73Ghz (533FSB)

It is going on my p4p800-e with a ct-479 and a an thinking on modding a HSF to it!
 
Well they say the 533mhz FSB ones are better for overclocking, but I have the 735 1.6ghz with the CT-479 on the P4P800-VM and it's running at 2.4ghz on stock voltage using clockgen since the VM has no bios overclocking options. Not bad for a $200 chip if you ask me. I could probably get it higher with better memory, and a better ventilated case, I have it in an Antec Area, and it's load temps get in to the upper 40's, I wish I could get my water cooled prescott to even idle that low lol.
 
I'd say the 735. It has a lower fsb, and thus you should be able to get a higher max overclock out of it before hitting a fsb wall.
 
All yous are wrong.🙂 Most overclockers are buying the 730M. It's realativly cheap ~ $210 has the 133Mhz bus and overclocks just about right for memory considerations and for maxing out both processor and FSB which high clocked versions will not do due to thier high multi.

eg.

set Bus to 200 = 2400Mhz and run mem 1:1 for 200 or mem 5:4 for 250Mhz.

 
Get a 533 FBS than choose the Cpu thats right for your budget. If your after value buy the cheapest 533 FBS if its pure performance you want get the 2.23 and O/C to 2.8 and have a gaming monster . Your the one buying . whatever you do buy the 533FBS.
 
Originally posted by: Intelia
Get a 533 FBS than choose the Cpu thats right for your budget. If your after value buy the cheapest 533 FBS if its pure performance you want get the 2.23 and O/C to 2.8 and have a gaming monster . Your the one buying . whatever you do buy the 533FBS.
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If overclocking is not a problem, I'd rather save several hundred on the CPU by going with a 3000/3200+ Venice (overclocking it) and use that money saved for a second video card in a SLI setup for a true gaming monster, which the P-M cannot come close to.
 
Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
Originally posted by: Intelia
Get a 533 FBS than choose the Cpu thats right for your budget. If your after value buy the cheapest 533 FBS if its pure performance you want get the 2.23 and O/C to 2.8 and have a gaming monster . Your the one buying . whatever you do buy the 533FBS.
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If overclocking is not a problem, I'd rather save several hundred on the CPU by going with a 3000/3200+ Venice (overclocking it) and use that money saved for a second video card in a SLI setup for a true gaming monster, which the P-M cannot come close to.
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I bet you would but your not the OP. And that would be a nice pick . Seeings how my husbands PM that he just built runs at 3.1 water cooled with chiller. I would recommend the PM as I have seen his results. Which are very good. not world records but 15% faster than his old setup.
 
Originally posted by: Fox5
I'd say the 735. It has a lower fsb, and thus you should be able to get a higher max overclock out of it before hitting a fsb wall.
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The 533fsb series is a newer stepping, which is why they say it's better for overclocking, but I do agree with Zebo that you could get a lower speed 1.6ghz 533fsb chip, save some money, and get the same results. I can't complain about getting 2.4 outta my 735 though.
 
Originally posted by: Intelia
Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
Originally posted by: Intelia
Get a 533 FBS than choose the Cpu thats right for your budget. If your after value buy the cheapest 533 FBS if its pure performance you want get the 2.23 and O/C to 2.8 and have a gaming monster . Your the one buying . whatever you do buy the 533FBS.
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If overclocking is not a problem, I'd rather save several hundred on the CPU by going with a 3000/3200+ Venice (overclocking it) and use that money saved for a second video card in a SLI setup for a true gaming monster, which the P-M cannot come close to.
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I bet you would but your not the OP. And that would be a nice pick . Seeings how my husbands PM that he just built runs at 3.1 water cooled with chiller. I would recommend the PM as I have seen his results. Which are very good. not world records but 15% faster than his old setup.
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Yeah well you're trying to justify an expensive CPU and platform for a purpose that would be wasted money. The P-M is a great gaming CPU, yes, however its platform is fundamentally flawed. It is still a mobile chip with no official desktop support from Intel. You overclock to save money, to grab performance you would otherwise not have. No matter how much you overclock the P-M it will not make up the difference the platform makes.

It might be true that the OP is looking to game, but you're pushing a 2.23GHz P-M which is quite the opposite of inexpensive, especially when at stock its a very capable gaming chip, so overclocking past 2.23GHz would be all you'd need for gaming anyways, especially if paired with a single PCI-e 7800GTX assuming you have the $300 s479 motherboard that has a PCI-e 16x slot, because you're certainly not going to need much more CPU power because you're not going to be able to have SLI.

As I've expressed before, the P-M on the desktop fills a niche for users who like to tinker with hardware. Yes you can get good gaming performance, as much as a single card will take you. But along with the strengths there are still the weaknesses because it is not a complete CPU for the desktop, something an A64 or even P4 is ultimately better for in the end, as the P4's weaknesses, even in areas such as gaming, aren't as glaring as the P-Ms.
 
Originally posted by: ExarKun333
Jesus, a 3.1ghz PM? thats a damn fast mashine...
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I beleive it when I see it CPU-Z verified. Intelia has a chronic habit of telling tales.
 
" De Itanium 20 which is de scrert plan of pualio ontellio and ze bill gates will come from de heavens and kill all the AMD hector CPU's by using a screct code that will make AMD CPU'Z BLOW UP and fly away"

Oh wait Im not Intelia!
 
Well these are the 3 I have to choose from.

P-M 730-1.6B w/ 533FSB
P-M 735-1.7A w/ 400FSB
P-M 740-1.73 w/ 533FSB

they are all within 20 dollars of each other and apparantly they all overclock well and play games very well. I just wanna know what will be the best bang for the buck!
 
Based on what others have gotten on xtremesystems and extremeoverclocking, I'd definately say go with either of the 533 Mhz FSB processors.
 
Originally posted by: DarkKnight69
Well these are the 3 I have to choose from.

P-M 730-1.6B w/ 533FSB
P-M 735-1.7A w/ 400FSB
P-M 740-1.73 w/ 533FSB

they are all within 20 dollars of each other and apparantly they all overclock well and play games very well. I just wanna know what will be the best bang for the buck!
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Because of the low availability of M/B . the O/C issue can very as your dividers are limited. Along with other O/C options. So if you want the highest attainable O/C for the current M/B available. Its better to use a 1:1 divider it is easier to get a higher O/C if you have the top performing cpu.

My husband had to mod his M/B to get to 3.1ghz. I don't know what exactly he did .As he doesn't tell me much about these types of things. He doesn't want me giving advice on something I don't fully understand. He did say that he would let me do the next mod and explain step by step as we do it . OH boy I get to use the soldiering iron.

 
Originally posted by: DarkKnight69
Well these are the 3 I have to choose from.

P-M 730-1.6B w/ 533FSB
P-M 735-1.7A w/ 400FSB
P-M 740-1.73 w/ 533FSB

they are all within 20 dollars of each other and apparantly they all overclock well and play games very well. I just wanna know what will be the best bang for the buck!
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Go with the 730.
 
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