Dothan vs. Turion

clarkey01

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I bought a turion laptop under the impression dothan is ever so slighty faster, why, because it was cheaper and the performance difference isnt worth talking about.
 

Pabster

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Very interesting, indeed.

What is interesting is that in one of the battery tests the Turion lappie won. That is impressive and I haven't seen similiar results from anyone else's testing...
 

Duvie

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Whoooo that is a kick in my groin...still an issue where i couldn't at the time find any dealers selling them with the other configuration stuff I was looking for....


notice how they are running DDRII 533...my Dell is running DDRII 400 I believe and the turion is running PC2700 cas 2.5...talk about a neuter job there as much as ppl say Dothans are neutered on the laptop platforms....

That is pretty much as apple and apple as you can get....NIce win for the turion (I hate the name it sounds too much like TERD!!!

It also is cheaper at each price point.....


With this cheap POS Dell computer that crashes every 4 days running F&H and an occasion BS if I leave a game running at the menu screen I should have gotten a Turion....My Oc'd machine run till the end of tiem and yet this stock I haven't touched a thing system crashes all the time....I can definitely sum up I CAN BUILD A BETTER SYSTEM THEN DELL....I will never buy from them again or recommend them again...
 

Markfw

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I got one for $750 for my son after rebate at Circuit city, and I thought it was all about price, but now I find my $150 cheaper laptop is faster, and sometimes even better at battery life !
After 21 benchmarks, 2 comparisons, and a detailed architecture analysis, the conclusion is clear. Unless battery life while performing CPU-intensive tasks is paramount, choosing a Turion-based laptop over a Dothan-based laptop is recommended.
 

Acanthus

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After filtering through all the synthetics, the platforms are almost identical in performance, where they are not even close is battery life under load.

So you have to ask yourself the question, is 33% more battery life worth $50? (in this case)
 

Nanobaud

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Originally posted by: Duvie
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I CAN BUILD A BETTER SYSTEM THEN DELL....I will never buy from them again or recommend them again...

Were you buying / recommending Dell because you thought they were BETTER? (presuming better = Higher performance and more stable) I had earlier concluded you were more insightful than that.
 

Accord99

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
After filtering through all the synthetics, the platforms are almost identical in performance, where they are not even close is battery life under load.

So you have to ask yourself the question, is 33% more battery life worth $50? (in this case)

I think there's something wrong with the low CPU usage test. Those times would imply that at near full load the P-M laptop uses 28.2W (@ 2GHz/1.35V) while using 24.9W at near idle (800MHz/0.988v). There's only a difference of 3.3W. On a Inspiron 6000 with a 1.6GHz P-M 730, I see a difference of greater than 14W between P95 and idle.
 

Fenuxx

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I've never had a problem with my Dell Inspiron 9300. The cheaper Dell models, I say stay away from, but the higher-end models (like the XPS), I've read reviews on, and they aren't too shabby. Dell's now using the nForce4 SLi Intel Edition for its XPS, and marks the first time, I believe in their history, that they've used non-Intel hardware ;) .

As far as the Dothan\Turion thing goes. I wouldn't put THAT much on that article. I've read others that put them at about even. Others put Dothan ahead, and some put Turion ahead. To me, its a wash. Get what pleases you. When I bought my lappy, I had no option to get Turion, so I got a screamin' Dothan :) .
 

PetNorth

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
After filtering through all the synthetics, the platforms are almost identical in performance, where they are not even close is battery life under load.

So you have to ask yourself the question, is 33% more battery life worth $50? (in this case)

Or you have to ask yourself if, in a laptop world, is usually to run it under load the majority of the time or, on the contrary, it is more usual to run it under light tasks most of the time. IMO, in laptop standard use, it is the last one.

And keep in mind this review is with a Turion 35W TDP. There is the 25W TDP (30% less power consumption).

Anyways, with this IMO very good and accurate review, it´s clear that Turion is an excellent alternative right now (it only needs a specific laptop chipset with lower consumption to be a perfect notebook platform specially speaking for the light and tiny segment).
 

CheesePoofs

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Thats a pretty interesting article. And there was me under the impression that the Dothan was better ...
 

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Originally posted by: Shimmishim
Originally posted by: Bona Fide
http://www.laptoplogic.com/resources/articles/42/1/1/

Sorry, Dothan. I think you got owned.

no need for comments like that.

makes you come off as an AMD fanboy.

be the bigger person.

True, but isn't he banned? :)

// For the record, I'm not big on laptops. But I found this article interesting, especially on the back of Duvie's recent threads regarding the Dothan line of CPU's.
 

linkgoron

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Originally posted by: SubtleIntelFreak
I don't know, if you read steve's comment on the last page it's pretty clear Dothan is the greatest.

If you look at the benchmark and not some guys post with no links to back him up it is clear that the Turion is a great CPU
 

Mik3y

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they're are pretty much on par with each other. it'd be naive to just say one owns another. we're talking real world here.
 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: linkgoron
Originally posted by: SubtleIntelFreak
I don't know, if you read steve's comment on the last page it's pretty clear Dothan is the greatest.

If you look at the benchmark and not some guys post with no links to back him up it is clear that the Turion is a great CPU

If you actually read the article you would have known the article recommends Turion, and that SubtleIntelFreak is joking.

Thanks for the comic relief :D:beer:
 

Markfw

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Originally posted by: Mik3y
they're are pretty much on par with each other. it'd be naive to just say one owns another. we're talking real world here.

I would totally agree with that, except for identically configured laptops, I couldn;t find the Dothan system for anywhere under $1100 when I got my sons Turion for $750.
 

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Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: Mik3y
they're are pretty much on par with each other. it'd be naive to just say one owns another. we're talking real world here.

I would totally agree with that, except for identically configured laptops, I couldn;t find the Dothan system for anywhere under $1100 when I got my sons Turion for $750.

This is an excellent point...notice that the article says that on a dollar to dollar basis, the closest competitor to the 2.0 GHz Turion would be the 1.6 GHz Dothan. Of course the performance difference would be a blow-out, so they stuck with comparing a 2 GHz to another 2 GHz...but on a bang for buck basis, I think Turion is hands down the absolute winner.
 

kitkat22

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I also find it interesting that these people wanted to compare two laptops as identical as they possbily could. Most other reviews take the dothan and slap it into a desktop. In the real world sense the Turion is very competitive with Dothan.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Viditor
This is an excellent point...notice that the article says that on a dollar to dollar basis, the closest competitor to the 2.0 GHz Turion would be the 1.6 GHz Dothan. Of course the performance difference would be a blow-out, so they stuck with comparing a 2 GHz to another 2 GHz...but on a bang for buck basis, I think Turion is hands down the absolute winner.

:thumbsup:

Although I'd like to see some more reviews, particularly on the battery life. This was the first review I've seen where a Turion-powered lappie lasted longer than a Dothan-powered one, regardless of the configuration.
 

monster64

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Viditor
This is an excellent point...notice that the article says that on a dollar to dollar basis, the closest competitor to the 2.0 GHz Turion would be the 1.6 GHz Dothan. Of course the performance difference would be a blow-out, so they stuck with comparing a 2 GHz to another 2 GHz...but on a bang for buck basis, I think Turion is hands down the absolute winner.

:thumbsup:

Although I'd like to see some more reviews, particularly on the battery life. This was the first review I've seen where a Turion-powered lappie lasted longer than a Dothan-powered one, regardless of the configuration.


It could be all in that PowerNow! (why didn't they call it Cool n' Quiet, sounds so much better)>SpeedStep, but still, it did last longer.
 

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Originally posted by: Viditor
Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: Mik3y
they're are pretty much on par with each other. it'd be naive to just say one owns another. we're talking real world here.

I would totally agree with that, except for identically configured laptops, I couldn;t find the Dothan system for anywhere under $1100 when I got my sons Turion for $750.

This is an excellent point...notice that the article says that on a dollar to dollar basis, the closest competitor to the 2.0 GHz Turion would be the 1.6 GHz Dothan. Of course the performance difference would be a blow-out, so they stuck with comparing a 2 GHz to another 2 GHz...but on a bang for buck basis, I think Turion is hands down the absolute winner.

Well said, Viditor. Of course, this review was [imo] missing some key points such as overclocking and heat readings, but Turion has proven its worth in my eyes.