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Dothan core = amazing

Originally posted by: PsharkJF
hopefully Intel will pull its head out of its ass and use this as its dual-core and desktop setup.
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That exactly what intel has coming for us.

Dual core dolthan for the desktop.
 
Is it going to be 64 bit? If they can churn out 64 bit processors, for their LGA 775, i'd be MUCH less resentful of Intel.
 
Originally posted by: LocutusX
Weren't the Dothans those spies who died bringing the plans of the Death Star to the Rebel Alliance?
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LOL!!!!! hahahahahaha a starwars themed chip name! i like it!
 
Unfortunately, Intel has already made noises to the effect that their upcoming dual-core cpus will be Prescott-based. Dothan would be a superior choice, but . . .

Nevertheless, 60 C without any heatsink is just awesome. My old Thunderbird 1.4 ghz spaceheater is operatingat 66 C idle, 72-74 C with "full load",and it has its fan/heatsink on. Ugh. It's noisy, too.
 
Originally posted by: LocutusX
Weren't the Dothans those spies who died bringing the plans of the Death Star to the Rebel Alliance?
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Almost, but not quite.

You are thinking of the Bothans.

-D'oh!

(why oh why am I so lame....)
 
Oh my god! Now.. AMD would have some SERIOUS competition if those were to be release for desktop, Now if we could get our hand on a .09 chip and underclock/undervolt it for real comparisons.
 
No they would'nt or they would release them to desktop. And a mobile barton can go 600mhz w/o a fan too. Lemme know how to show you convincingly of try it yourself if you mobo supports 1V or less.
 
big deal. my 486 dx2/66 didn't have a heatsink/fan either. however, i did like watching water evaporate on the surface when i dabbed it with a wet napkin.
 
They are shooting themself in the fott if they continue to do that bullshit. They are already hitting a wall, and they will continue untill they increase the pipeline OR move to .065... Their loss, but it wouldve been an interesting fight..
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
No they would'nt or they would release them to desktop. And a mobile barton can go 600mhz w/o a fan too. Lemme know how to show you convincingly of try it yourself if you mobo supports 1V or less.
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This isn't just without a fan, this is without a heatsink also... just the bare core...
 
But isnt it running at 600Mhz?

I dont find that all that amazing. Set an A64 @ 600Mhz on that process and see what temp it gets without cooling.

60C really imo isnt that impressive imo. My A64 runs at 2200Mhz with a retail cooler at 37C.
 
What aren't some of you getting? It's running WITHOUT ANY HEATSINK AT ALL...not just without a fan. That's very impressive as most all desktop chips would fry within seconds without a heatsink.
 
The VIA C3 with the Ezra core wouldn't fry without a heatsink. In fact VIA even put out a video claiming they had one (800MHz Ezra) running for many hours without a heatsink at all in a room set to 22ºC. Also, I've run an overclocked P3 Coppermine without a heatsink. A friend accidentally knocked the computer over, and unknown to me the CPU heatsink/fan fell off. I turned on the machine to make sure it was okay and it booted into Windows. Left it for ½ hour, came back and it was locked. Popped the side off and found the HSF sitting on the bottom of the case. Put it back on and the system was good to go again. I've also seen computers come in at work (repair shop) that were P4 setups with broken heatsink brackets so the heatsink either fell off or was dangling. No permanent harm done. Athlon setups, OTOH...

Link to the VIA video "Beat the Heat"
 
Originally posted by: Zap
The VIA C3 with the Ezra core wouldn't fry without a heatsink. In fact VIA even put out a video claiming they had one (800MHz Ezra) running for many hours without a heatsink at all in a room set to 22ºC. Also, I've run an overclocked P3 Coppermine without a heatsink. A friend accidentally knocked the computer over, and unknown to me the CPU heatsink/fan fell off. I turned on the machine to make sure it was okay and it booted into Windows. Left it for ½ hour, came back and it was locked. Popped the side off and found the HSF sitting on the bottom of the case. Put it back on and the system was good to go again. I've also seen computers come in at work (repair shop) that were P4 setups with broken heatsink brackets so the heatsink either fell off or was dangling. No permanent harm done. Athlon setups, OTOH...

Link to the VIA video "Beat the Heat"
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The Via C3 core is a piece of cr@p.

The Dothan core is, clock for clock, significantly faster than either the P4 Northwood or Prescott.


As has been said before, this is not without a fan, this is without a heatsink!

Also, if you read down they go on to explain that they got it up to 800 MHz @ 0.95V without a heatsink, and 1 GHz @ 1V (80C) with no heatsink and no insability (although that is quite hot).

Then, they slapped a copper Heatsink on it and ran it at 1.7 Ghz @ 1.35V effortlessly (and fanless).


Zebo earlier mentioned earlier that a mobile Barton can go 600 MHz without a fan - this one goes 1.7 Ghz and has higher IPC!


This is extremely impressive - Prescott would die in any of these situations (or at least throttle and become inoperably slow). Northwood can't do this, and neither can Barton or A64; not even mobile Barton can run close to this cool.
 
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