Dork Pride! Suddenly, It's Cool to Be Uncool (POLL INSIDE)

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Dork Pride! Suddenly, It's Cool to Be Uncool
By MARTHA IRVINE, AP
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CHICAGO (July 18) - Maybe it's because young computer gurus are now enjoying the millionaire life. Perhaps it has something to do with the unexpected popularity last year of the movie "Napoleon Dynamite," about a quirky, dancing teen and his sleepy Idaho town.

Whatever the reason, being a nerd, a geek, a dork - whatever you want to call the tragically unhip - is becoming a source of pride.

Case in point: Steffi Weiss, a 15-year-old in the Chicago suburb of Lake Zurich, who plays violin in the school's orchestra.

This spring, she and a friend bought black mesh sports jerseys - something like the football team's - and added "ORCH DORKS" in white letters on the front, their last names on the back and their instrument on the sleeves (VLN I, for first violin, in Weiss' case).

"We used to not be able to stand the fact that we were in orchestra," says Weiss, who's been playing the violin since fourth grade and proudly wore the shirt to her high school this year. "Finally, we realized that's where all our friends are and that's where we have the most fun.

"So why not just say we're dorks?"

There was a time when teens who tried something like that would have been asking for some serious goofing. But today being smart and sensitive, even a little socially awkward, is often considered cool - and the signs are everywhere.

"The O.C.," a TV show popular with teens, has Seth, a comic-book loving nerd played by actor Adam Brody. Bands such as Weezer also feed off the dork image, complete with horn-rimmed glasses and a song about being OK with not fitting the Beverly Hills mold. "Napoleon Dynamite" has a fan club; its Web site claims 150,000 members.

And, increasingly, people are parading around in shirts that say "Dork Pride!" among other things. Such items have gotten so popular that CafePress.com, an online merchandiser, has created a special category for shirts and other items celebrating geeks, dorks and nerds.

Philip Kaplan, the 29-year-old founder of the startup online ad company AdBrite - and one who's long played upon his own dorky reputation - finds the whole phenomenon amusing.

"In high school, I didn't go to parties. I didn't have a lot of friends," says Kaplan, who lives in San Francisco and also created a tongue-in-cheek Web site that chronicled the dot-com bust. "Now all the people from high school are asking me if I have a job for them. So I guess it wasn't so bad to be a dork."

People who track youth trends have noticed the shift in attitude, too.

"It feels like, for a while there, we were hearing so much about bullying in schools - and this is almost a time for the geeks to stand up for themselves," says Schuyler Brown, a trendspotter for advertising and marketing firm Euro RSCG.

Michael Lee, a self-proclaimed nerd, is happy it's happening. "It's society validating who I am," says the 28-year-old marketing manager from in Perris, Calif.

But he also worries that the popularity will be short-lived, returning he and fellow nerds to a life of ridicule. "Because it is a trend," he says, "it'll become extremely untrendy."

For now, though, he's going with it and has put a bumper sticker on his motorcycle that says "Talk Nerdy To Me" so he attracts the kind of women he's looking for - "a librarian type girl," who likes to go to bookstores and art galleries and whose eyes don't glaze over when he starts talking about the finer points of "Babylon 5" or "Battlestar Galactica."

"It's like (the movie) 'American Pie' with the band geek girl," Lee says. "That is definitely part of the fantasy."

Still others are feeling a little territorial about their geek status.

Nick Ross, a 26-year-old freelance artist and animator, wrote The True Geek Test, a set of online questions aimed at weeding out the "posers." He says people often want to play the part but, in this case, know little about the worlds of computers and gaming - something Ross says is a must to truly be a geek.

"The label of geek actually has nothing to do with computers anymore. It's become about irony," says Ross, who lives in Ellington, Conn. "Among young people, liking something cool is uncool, and vice versa. There is no logic behind it at all."

But Uyen Mai says she knows how to spot a true geek, dork or nerd - and she likes what she sees.

"I see them as eccentrics or maybe smart, gentle people with a passion for something that may not be popular at the moment, like maybe computers, 'Star Wars,' physics," says Mai, a 28-year-old university employee who lives in Walnut, Calif. "Say, for instance, we're watching a dream movie with Tom Cruise, Denzel Washington, Brad Pitt and Topher Grace. I'd gush over Topher Grace," she adds, referring to an actor from "That '70s Show" who's known for his geek appeal.

To prove her point, Mai has an "I (Heart) Dorks" tank top, which she wears often.

"My husband is not nearly as amused by the shirt as I am. I thought he'd be flattered," she says. "Oh well."

 

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Here's my dichotomy of geek/nerd.

Nerd is the true brains, typically devoid of any social interactions and completely out of touch with modern trends.

Geek is having the interests of a nerd, but not to the extent that he completely shuns away socialization and trends.

Dorks are just the crusty stains left behind from the previous two. Niether smart or socially graceful.

:p
 

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I have a T-shirt with the periodic table on the front and another one that says "Got Micro?" on the front.

Do I qualify?
 

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that site cafepress is scary, i understand way too many of those t-shirts.

 

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The funny thing is, if someone saw me they probably wouldn't immediatly label me as a dork or geek. I suppose thats what makes me a true geek. I don't need a shirt or need to talk about napolean dynomite or weezer all day long. The fact that I can go home tonight and play WoW for 7 hours or rewrite a mIRC script I wrote when I was 15, or play Angband at 1am is what makes me a nerd.
 

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You have to wonder, now that being a "dork" is "cool," doesnt that destroy the article's definition of a dork as "tragically unhip?"
 

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Originally posted by: 733SHiFTY
You have to wonder, now that being a "dork" is "cool," doesnt that destroy the article's definition of a dork as "tragically unhip?"

Where do Trucker hats fit in?

 

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Originally posted by: Cheezeit
no nerd?

ive always preferred nerd over geek becaseu nerd sounds well.... nerdier

Nerd, Dork, Geek... All the same for this purpose.
 

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: 733SHiFTY
You have to wonder, now that being a "dork" is "cool," doesnt that destroy the article's definition of a dork as "tragically unhip?"

Where do Trucker hats fit in?

probably somewhere in the poser category
 

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psh, i was wearing my "computer literate" shirt that i won at a programming contest to high school back when it was still unpopular. bunch of posers these days =P i blame emo kids!
 

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Even geeks have posers. That is so sad.

QFT.

I stopped caring about "the cool kids" in 8th grade. It makes you more of a dork to care that you're a dork, I guess. :roll:

 

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Originally posted by: oboeguy
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Even geeks have posers. That is so sad.

QFT.

I stopped caring about "the cool kids" in 8th grade. It makes you more of a dork to care that you're a dork, I guess. :roll:

Dork. :p