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lxskllr

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Climate change? Climate change? What a crock of shit! The owner of the Weather Channel doesn't even believe in the soup du jour word "climate change"/"Global warming."




Let me just give you a little story on this "climate change" doomsday bullshit.



During WWII, Irena, got permission to work in the Warsaw ghetto, as a Plumbing/Sewer specialist. She had an ulterior motive.

Irena smuggled Jewish infants out in the bottom of the tool box she carried. She also carried a burlap sack in the back of her truck, for larger kids.

Irena kept a dog in the back that she trained to bark when the Nazi soldiers let her in and out of the ghetto. The soldiers, of course, wanted nothing to do with the dog and the barking covered the kids/infants noises.

During her time of doing this, she managed to smuggle out and save 2500 kids/infants. Ultimately, she was caught, however, and the Nazi's broke both of her legs and arms and beat her severely.

Irena kept a record of the names of all the kids she had smuggled out, In a glass jar that she buried under a tree in her back yard. After the war, she tried to locate any parents that may have survived and tried to reunite the family. Most had been gassed. Those kids she helped got placed into foster family homes or adopted.

In 2007 Irena was up for the Nobel Peace Prize.
She was not selected.
Al Gore won, for a slide show on Global Warming.



Now if the Doomsday clock was moved closer to 12 because of Iran I could believe it.

I disagree with just about everything you post regarding climate change, but want to go on the record stating the Nobel Peace Prize is a load of horseshit, and only a fool would put any credence into their selection one way or the other. When someone gets a prize because "Yay! He's black!", you know it's a worthless piece of shit.

They need to get rid of the peace prize, and divvy up the prize money amongst the disciplines that actually promote human advancement.
 

disappoint

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This kind of why I stopped giving a shit about global warming. Human beings often lack in foresight and only care to implement solutions after the fact. At this point shit is gonna have to get pretty fucking bad in order to get people to accept that man made climate change is real at which point it will be too late.

The most logical solution as I see it is to adapt.

I tend to agree, but I'll still support attempts to fix it. At the same time, I'm fully expecting that we'll, for the most part, do exactly like you said. Both of us could still be surprised though, and I wouldn't mind being wrong in this case.

Remember the hole in the ozone layer? Then the subsequent banning of CFCs? How about leaded gasoline and the implementation of unleaded? Don't be so cynical. It's been done before it can be done again. I'm not saying it will. But it might.

One thing I have a problem with though...is leadership. To be an effective leader you have to know how to get stuff done, and be willing to do it. Too often we elect leaders that are ineffective because they are missing 1 or both of those traits. People don't recognize it because they lack those traits.

One of the presidents I like was Bush Sr. But he didn't get a second term. You know why? Because he said "Read my lips. No new taxes". Then when he got into office he realized that either he was going to raise taxes, or risk trashing the economy. So even though he knew it was political suicide, he raised taxes even though he promised he wouldn't earlier.

That reminds me of a scientist. Scientists will change their minds given new evidence even if it contradicts their current line of thinking or worldview.

So he failed to get a second term because he did the right thing for the nation.

Bush Jr. learned that lesson though, only it was the wrong lesson and it was taught to him by the American voter. He learned to stick to his guns no matter what. And he won a second term because of it. He wasn't going to make the mistake his father did and do the right thing. He was going to do the popular thing and stick to his plan no matter what evidence presents. Whether he did that consciously or subconsciously doesn't matter. His thinking changed when his father lost the 2nd election whether he knows how or not and whether you know it or not.

Sure you might say he was "selected" in and not elected but it doesn't matter. It shouldn't have been such a close election then. He should have lost by a landslide.

Most voters aren't scientists though, they are the opposite. They are science shunning religious "stick to your guns", "tradition above evidence" type of thinkers.

But science is fighting this ignorant way of thinking back. Because they realize how dangerous it is for a world superpower to elect dubious leadership.

When have you ever seen prominent scientists debating religious people before? I've only seen it recently. Years ago scientists just did science. That's what they were interested in. They weren't interested in politics or religion. Now you know why they are suddenly now getting involved.

I like math, so when I go off on a tangent...boy do I really go off on a tangent. I should stay the heck away from politics too. They don't call it political science for nothing. Wishful thinking.:D

Neil Degrasse Tyson for president! I'm kidding, he likely wouldn't want the job, and he's most effective at what he's doing. Fighting ignorance.
 

Paratus

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I'll just leave this here. http://www.businessinsider.com/plan-to-spend-90-trillion-redesigning-cities-without-cars-2015-1

AL Whore is as bat shit crazy as some people in this thread.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...-report-quietly-released--chart-prove-it.html

Anyone remember "Climate Gate?" Of course you don't. Probably don't know what that is either.

Dude just stop. If there's anyone that doesn't understand Climategate it's you.


(although that $90T city redesign sounds stupid. You could buy the whole world nukes and solar panels and be done with it for that price)
 

Craig234

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The only thing funnier than paying attention to the Doomsday Clock as if it was relevant is the idea that a candidate could do something about climate change even if it was an actual danger.

President Gore could have done a hell of a lot about it.
 

dn7309

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Craig234

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I'll just leave this here. http://www.businessinsider.com/plan-to-spend-90-trillion-redesigning-cities-without-cars-2015-1

AL Whore is as bat shit crazy as some people in this thread.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...-report-quietly-released--chart-prove-it.html

Anyone remember "Climate Gate?" Of course you don't. Probably don't know what that is either.

'Al Whore', quality argument there.

You link a guy who is wrong about climate change.

'Climate Gate' disproves nothing about the issue.

Just more ignorant ideologues spreading lies about a critical issue.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/georgemonbiot/2010/dec/08/david-rose-climate-science
 

master_shake_

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meh im not too worried about the earth...

it'll be here long after were gone.

and it'll heal itself using any means necessary.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Neil Degrasse Tyson for president! I'm kidding, he likely wouldn't want the job, and he's most effective at what he's doing. Fighting ignorance.

Neil DeGrasse Tyson is as effective at fighting ignorance as Jesus is at fighting evil. It sounds like a good idea, but like the notion that politicians could be able to control the climate it's laughable in practice. NDT might be trying to reach across the aisle to bring the morons into the light of knowledge, but we all saw the reaction to Cosmos. The intelligent love him and the message he's trying to preach while the ignorant ignore it or even worse, feel threatened by it and fight against it. There comes a point where the wise man wakes up and accepts the fact that the ignorant are ignorant for a reason. It's not lack of education, it's willful. People who believe in fairy tales WANT to believe in fairy tales and no spokesman for enlightenment will be able to change that no matter how well he speaks about it.
 

Craig234

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So he failed to get a second term because he did the right thing for the nation.

There are a couple big mistakes with that.

One is that you give him credit for 'doing the right thing' at a political cost, rather than giving him any blame for making a misguided, irresponsible, expedient promise.

Second is that whatever credit he deserves for not doing one bad thing, his presidency is still the story of continued huge deficits begun by Reagan - he still had bad policies.

It took Clinton, with a budget raising taxes on the rich with zero votes from Republicans, to reduce the deficit every year for 8 years until it was eliminated.

So, this rosy picture of George H. W. Bush, because he did one right thing, gives him way too much credit as president.
 

GagHalfrunt

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You lie.

That's the problem in democracy, ignorant citizens.

LOL. You're right. Al would just wave his magic wand and everyone on earth would obey him. Try to get this through your head, even Al Gore doesn't know what he'd really do to fix the problem. He has no real world plan to do ANYTHING, that's why he's pushing this $90 trillion engineered society nonsense, because he knows it can never be implemented and proven wrong. If he had a real plan he would have mentioned it by now. He's only been whining about this for 20 years.
 

Craig234

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meh im not too worried about the earth...

it'll be here long after were gone.

and it'll heal itself using any means necessary.

The issue isn't so much the impact on the earth. It's the impact on people, and other creatures, as we're in the middle now of the man-made world's sixth great extinction.

http://time.com/3035872/sixth-great-extinction/

It's rather remarkable that I don't think there is 5% awareness that the extinction is even going on. We're on the verge of similar huge species loss in the oceans.
 

Craig234

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LOL. You're right. Al would just wave his magic wand and everyone on earth would obey him. Try to get this through your head, even Al Gore doesn't know what he'd really do to fix the problem. He has no real world plan to do ANYTHING, that's why he's pushing this $90 trillion engineered society nonsense, because he knows it can never be implemented and proven wrong. If he had a real plan he would have mentioned it by now. He's only been whining about this for 20 years.

Too much idiocy to get a response.

Anyone who refers to Gore's leading advocacy on the issue as a 'whine' deserves ignoring.
 

Craig234

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As for the OP - I have mixed feelings about using the doomsday clock for this.

The clock was always meant as a PR device to raise public awareness about danger, and it can be debated whether to expand that to climate change.

But I agree, it is a different use. On the other hand, we have a serious problem with a lack of public understanding and concern about climate change.

So, I lean in favor of it as being in the same spirit it's always been used.
 

BudAshes

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India and Pakistan could send us into nuclear winter at any time if they started firing nukes. Were a step away from obliteration but we've been so close to the edge for so long that it's stopped seeming scary.
 

Nograts

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India and Pakistan could send us into nuclear winter at any time if they started firing nukes. Were a step away from obliteration but we've been so close to the edge for so long that it's stopped seeming scary.

I lol'd a bit in my pants.
 

John Connor

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I like how this administration seems to think "global warming/"climate change" is a bigger threat than terrorism.

Turn on the damn TV and everyday if you don't hear about dirka dirka Muhammad someone or other and ISIS, or al qaeda you are living under a rock. Having a damn bomb go off in Times Square is a faaaar greater reality than a damn sun burn FFS!

"Global warming"/"Climate change" is just a political ruse and a way of control perpetuated by the left. It's used as an excuse for anything that happens. Got too much snow? Climate change. Too much rain? Climate change? Drought? Climate change. Tornado? Climate change.

I just like the hypocrisy of it all. Leonardo Dicaprio stood on his pile of manure at the UN and tells everyone that we need to change our ways. Yet he fly's a private jet and in fact took a private jet from California to Australia to experience New Years twice! His carbon foot print is bigger than mine! I don't own a private jet and I turn off lights, recycle and do all that other crap.

Al Gore has how many houses? Plus one house I think in TN has natural gas lamps! Natural gas lamps FFS! Really? His houses are a bigger carbon foot print than I bet 98% of America!

The atomic scientists and their piss ass idea that "Global warming"/"Climate change" is a threat to humanity are as dumb as dumb can be. You have scientists that believe in global warming and then you have scientists that don't. "Global warming"/"Climate change" is NOT set in stone.

And just what's up with carbon credits? That's a BS tax just like Obozocare. It's just a way to control industry. I'm an industrialist. I am a staunch Conservative! I reject this notion of BS "Global warming"/"Climate change."

As PT Barnum once said, "there's a sucker born every minute. And I'll add my own quote. A good looking actor can inspire us to trust. :sneaky:

I'm not the only one not falling for this ruse.
 
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Ruptga

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John Connor said:
hay guise I may be dumber than an average spambot, but I'm sooo much smarter than practically every climate researcher and scientist on the planet. Know why? Cuz Al Whore is a dick and I can prove it because I just mutilated his name ON PURPOSE. Yeah take THAT Al Whore, that's putting my third grade education to work right there.

The ONLY real danger is those terrists, I know because the most patriotic news company ever tells me every waking moment just what their up to and how our so called president is there cheerleader. OBOZO! LOL!

So you know what? You should all be ashamed of yourselves for believing such obvious liberul lies. Your all a bunch of suckers, not like me at all!
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GagHalfrunt

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Too much idiocy to get a response.

Anyone who refers to Gore's leading advocacy on the issue as a 'whine' deserves ignoring.

Keep sniffing your own farts zippy, that will get you and the clueless left wingers somewhere. Please enlighten me with your utter brilliance. Al Gore has been crying about this for 20 years and you worship him with a zealotry that is frankly a little home-erotic, but that's another thread. In 20 years of hanging on to his every henny-penny word, you must have picked up his message clearly by now. What exactly is Al Gore's plan to change the climate? Please share because it will be news to me and it would be news to Al too.
 

Ruptga

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You people are talking about Gore like he matters at all. He's a celebrity, the most he will ever do is be an advocate or maybe an investor. Gore doesn't fucking matter. Linking him to climate change is an easy low-brow tactic to sidestep talking about actual relevant facts. It's much easier to just attack a celebrity, and frankly you're an idiot if you don't or won't recognize that and still try to play their game. Craig :colbert: