DOOM is 15 years-old

Zenoth

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Happy Birthday DOOM!

On December 10th 1993 DOOM was released, and fifteen years later I have the retail PC version of the original, its sequel and Final DOOM. I didn't play DOOM back in 1993 however, I was 11 years-old, so I was sticking with my SNES and Genesis games, but somewhere in 1994 I believe I bought the SNES version of DOOM (Shareware levels only if I recall correctly) and I liked it, but I didn't realized how much I was missing when I first saw it "proper" on PC, on some demonstration stand in my local store, I was floored by what I was seeing.

Ah! ...yes, the memories.

Eventually a great silence came, no new DOOM games to put under our teeth for years until DOOM 3 arrived and shocked everyone with its demanding engine more than its somewhat "enjoyable" game-play (for SOME people). Then its expansion pack, made by another development team, as if iD Software started to lose interest to its own child. And only recently DOOM 4 has been announced, which might just well bring us yet another fancy looking game with our good ol' Cacodemons made of just 5,000 extra polygons than its predecessor, but let's hope for an actual game, and a good one, not a technological demonstration with guns and monsters.

Despite the DOOM 3's failure (generally speaking, even if some people do like it) I think that DOOM in its entirety (yes, including DOOM 64) is still better than many more recent and seemingly more "complex and in-depth" FPS'es on today's standards for that genre. Do you remember DOOM? What were you doing back in 1993? Do you still like and/or play any of the DOOM games to this day? If so which one(s)?

I own:

Ultimate DOOM
DOOM II: Hell on Earth
Final DOOM
DOOM: Absolution (a free DOOM 64 port for the PC)
jDOOM & Doomsday

I owned:

DOOM 3 (sold it about two months later, it was taking the dust)

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EDIT: I should have posted this earlier, but I thought it was necessary to underling that anniversary for general gaming.
 

Barfo

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Doom, Doom II and Ultimate Doom = WIN
Doom 3 and expansion = MEH

I would so pay $30-40 for a Doom-Doom II remake with modern graphics.
 

BassBomb

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I only had shareware of Doom Doom2 so I never really played those.

Doom 3 was pretty scary the first run through, but I cheated since it was just ridiculous
 

KlokWyze

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Played Doom 1 & 2 to death. Not using cheats AND using cheats.

Doom 3 was good IMO. It's atmosphere, audio/visuals are amazing. I can see why people hated it, it had a lot to live up to & it's game play wasn't as compelling as it could have been. This ultimately made it hated by the "l33t", which all the weaker newbs just sort of agreed with because they suck & can form no opinion on their own. :)

That being said, I hope they bring Doom 4 more in the vein of the 1st 2. With A LOT more large open areas facing massive armies of demons & zombies proper. Huge demonic temple labyrinths, sadistic torture chambers with bodies writhing, massive infested space stations with portals leading to crazy rooms, etc.

Also, Quake 1 is brilliant in so many ways..... what if they just truncated all other Quakes & continued from the 1st in the same style!?!?!?!
 

AdamK47

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I really liked Doom 3 despite what many initially said about it. It was about as fashionable to dislike Doom 3 then as it is for Crysis now. That phase has passed.
 

AstroManLuca

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Originally posted by: barfo
Doom, Doom II and Ultimate Doom = WIN
Doom 3 and expansion = MEH

I would so pay $30-40 for a Doom-Doom II remake with modern graphics.

Yeah, it's called Doom 3.
 

GenHoth

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I loved the scary atmosphere of Doom 3, but seriously... the flashlight thing? That's what always gets me.
 

CrackRabbit

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Doom and its many clones (of witch Rise of the Triad and Heretic were my favorites) were great in that era of gaming.
I remember once I got in an elevator and saved, I was low on ammo and health I spent the next two days trying to make it out of the elevator, and it never got boring or frustrating. Eventually made it out and beat the game without cheating. :)
I wasn't blown away by graphics until I saw Unreal and Forsaken running in Glide. RIP 3dFX.
 

Borealis7

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we used to play Doom II multiplayer on LAN i think i recall level 7 (the one with the outer square, inner square with all the ammo).

first we go around clearing all the monsters, then we duke it out. (oh yeah, we also played lots of Duke Nukem 3d on lan).

i remember we used to play for hours and have tournaments. one of my friends was DOMINATING us because he was playing with WASD and mouse while we all played with the numpad and control to fire. that was around 1998, when Quake 2 hit the scene, we dumped DOOM and made the transition to 3D :cool:
 

shortylickens

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Doom 3 was not scary and it was not fun.
It was a piss-poor excuse to milk people of 50 bucks.
And the engine was not "next gen" or "awesome". It was very inefficient and only looked decent with bump mapping enabled, and at the time it came out that killed performance on every available system.

Good thing they let someone else produce Quake 4.
 
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I suppose that it was a great game for its time. It blazed the trail for today's FPS games. I first saw it back in 1996 and started playing it some. When I first saw Quake late at night in a darkened room at a science lab, I was totally blown way.
 

Robert Munch

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I remember playing Doom/Doom2/Heretic/Hexen multiplayer on dwango, BBS systems, and modem-to-modem such mindblowing fun when I was much younger.
 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: barfo
Doom, Doom II and Ultimate Doom = WIN
Doom 3 and expansion = MEH

I would so pay $30-40 for a Doom-Doom II remake with modern graphics.

nostalgia FTL

so do you want them to include the ability to not have to look up or down in those remakes?
 

imported_Imp

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Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
Originally posted by: barfo
Doom, Doom II and Ultimate Doom = WIN
Doom 3 and expansion = MEH

I would so pay $30-40 for a Doom-Doom II remake with modern graphics.

nostalgia FTL

so do you want them to include the ability to not have to look up or down in those remakes?

You're ruining it for the rest of us you lousy 3D mofo;).

I was clueless around the time Doom came out. Think I was around 10 when I first had a taste of Shareware Doom, and for some reason, I kept buying the damn shareware over and over again thinking that it was the full copy. I did manage to buy the full version of Doom II though. Typing in "idkfa" and "idgod" was a like an engine startup sequence for me. The number of Doom and Doom I levels that I actually finished without cheating can be counted on one hand...

And ya, the inability to look up sends a chill down my spine. There was nothing more annoying than being shot at by something, doing a 360 and still not seeing it.

So when's Quake's birthday... now that was amazing.
 

AdamK47

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Originally posted by: shortylickens
Doom 3 was not scary and it was not fun.
It was a piss-poor excuse to milk people of 50 bucks.
And the engine was not "next gen" or "awesome". It was very inefficient and only looked decent with bump mapping enabled, and at the time it came out that killed performance on every available system.

Good thing they let someone else produce Quake 4.

Your opinion is factually wrong.
 

Martimus

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Doom 2 was the first computer game that I had for my parents Pentium 60 back in 2004 I think. I had an 8088 before that, so there wasn't much in the way of games I had that I didn't write myself.

I actually really enjoyed Doom 3, it reminded me a lot of the original two, although it was lacking in the volume of enemies. Doom and Doom 2 had no story lines, and they also just spawned enemies in dark hallways, but that was cool. It was the successor to Wolfenstein, and had a whole lot more to the game which made it cool.

I still remember going down a hallway in level 8 of Doom 2, and picking up a chainsaw only to have the wall open in front of me revealing a Hell Knight. I said, "Oh SH!T!!!, and ran in the opposite direction!"
 

DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: AdamK47
I really liked Doom 3 despite what many initially said about it. It was about as fashionable to dislike Doom 3 then as it is for Crysis now. That phase has passed.
Here in the graphics forum, like and dislike seemed to depend on vid card IHV preference. NV fans generally seemed positive about the game, ATI fans, not so much. It was much the same for HL2 as well. Most the negative criticism came from hardcore NV fans.

Myself, I liked DOOM 3 the first play through. I played around Halloween, and at night, and it beat the hell out of the cheesey horror flicks many watch instead. I found no replay value in it though. With Doom and Doom 2, I played them many times.
 

lxskllr

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Doom, along with Wolf3d was the first(and only) game I pirated. A friend of mine gave me a copy of the floppies :^D I love the series, including DoomIII. I think DoomIII got a bit of a raw deal. I'm not sure what people were expecting, but I found it true to the series.

Edit:
For spelling
 

Qbah

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Loved all 3 :) Sitting in a completely dark room with no lights, just the screen on and headphones only + Doom3 = win. Had a laptopt back then with a Radeon Mobility 9700 (like a 9600Pro), had to play it on medium. It still looked amazing and was a blast to play! Not to mention the shadows in this game beat most of what is available today. The fuzzy, wavy, low rez, messed up shadows in today's games are really a sore in my eyes.
 

Molondo

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I never played the doom games when they came out, i was too young. But when steam came out with the complete ID pack i bought it. I finished the first and second Doom in first week. It took me a while to get used to the controls and the graphics but once you do its a blast. I didn't know i could have fun with old games like that.
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: Xavier434
Love them all and want more.

Yup.

Doom 4 should be nice. Refined engine, and its post "doom 3 sucks" criticism. I really hope that Doom 4 is more "hell with demons" than "mars with zombies". I like the super evil side of the game. Like someone posted "complicated evil shrines".. i want more of that.. I think i recall lvl 23 of doom 2 being alot like what i want.. ohhh the memories.

 

AstroManLuca

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Originally posted by: AdamK47
Originally posted by: shortylickens
Doom 3 was not scary and it was not fun.
It was a piss-poor excuse to milk people of 50 bucks.
And the engine was not "next gen" or "awesome". It was very inefficient and only looked decent with bump mapping enabled, and at the time it came out that killed performance on every available system.

Good thing they let someone else produce Quake 4.

Your opinion is factually wrong.

Agreed.

Doom 3 was scary at least at first (although it was easy to get used to).

The engine was indeed next-gen and it looks pretty good even now. It looked great back then. Oh, and in 2004, when it came out, I had a GeForce 6800 that ran the game very well at either Medium or High settings (don't remember which). I do remember that it performed a whole lot better on nVidia cars than on ATI cards, but it was playable at low settings even on a Radeon 9600 that I had been using prior to getting the 6800. And it looked decent on low settings!