Doom III scans from new PC Gamer

[wellerdball]

d3 you say? isnt descent 3 out alreaydy?man that game rocked!I love the in game map downloading

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: wellerdball
d3 you say? isnt descent 3 out alreaydy?man that game rocked!I love the in game map downloading

D3 = Doom3. Who cares about Descent?

 

[Mutilator]

Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: wellerdball
d3 you say? isnt descent 3 out alreaydy?man that game rocked!I love the in game map downloading

D3 = Doom3. Who cares about Descent?

*Listens to the crickets*

😉

 

[tigerwannabe]

pretty amazing pics 😎 but like most others, i'll probably need a MASSIVE system upgrade to run it

 

[wellerdball]

DESCENT 3 ROCKS ASS tell me what other game has such graphics and cleaness on the fusion 3d engine

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Did any of you actually read the article or just stare at the purdy pictures?

Pros:
Excellent rendering and art.
Excellent sound.
Good plot and story.

Cons:
No use key.
Emphasis of art over AI and multiplayer.
No alternate firing mode.
Very little outdoor scenes. Primarily cramped/dark cooridors.

Just a summation of what I thought was the important bits.

 

[wellerdball]

the only con i cared about is the lack of outdoors atleast some kind of mars like surface 🙁 oh well

 

[kherman]

Anyone thinking what i'm thinking???

Time to buy into NVidea and ATI stock. Does ATI have a ticker? If so, what is it???

Time to buy some puts (leaps)

 

[Descartes]

Noting Carmack's position in this scan is highly superfluous. Also, it should simply say either "The Carmack", or simply, "God".

What an amazing company they have. I'd like to work w/ them.... even as their janitor who gets to play w/ the code now and then 🙂

 

[kherman]

OK, time to buy into ATI and NVDA. What is ATI's ticker???

Buy them in about 2 months.

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Cons:
No use key.

Why is it a bad thing? They can design the game in such way that it's not needed.

Emphasis of art over AI and multiplayer.

Dunno 'bout AI, but it was made clear from the start that D3 focuses on singleplayer, not multiplayer. The world is filled with excellent multiplayer-games, there's no need for D3 to have MP

No alternate firing mode.

Don't see why this is a bad thing. We have just got used to weapons that have two firing-mode. Lack of dual-fire isn't really a con, it's just something that we haven't got used to.

Very little outdoor scenes. Primarily cramped/dark cooridors.

Propably because it would be impossible with current computers.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: kherman
OK, time to buy into ATI and NVDA. What is ATI's ticker???

Buy them in about 2 months.

nVidia = nvda
ATi = atyt

You don't really think Doom3 inspired video card sales from would really affect their stock price, do you?

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Why is it a bad thing? They can design the game in such way that it's not needed.

Not needed? By taking out immersive gameplay?

The USE key gives the illusion the gamer is in the game making things happen. Opening cabinets, flipping switches, pulling levers, picking up keys, etc. These things we've taken for granted in other games. Carmack didn't want the USE key because it was "gimmicky" so the gamer uses the rediculous flash-like interface for interactivity. He thinks that isn't gimmicky?!

Dunno 'bout AI, but it was made clear from the start that D3 focuses on singleplayer, not multiplayer. The world is filled with excellent multiplayer-games, there's no need for D3 to have MP

The lack of AI development is a bit of a disappointment, though zombies and hell creatures don't really need to be that smart.

Don't see why this is a bad thing. We have just got used to weapons that have two firing-mode. Lack of dual-fire isn't really a con, it's just something that we haven't got used to.

We've gotten used to dual-firing modes because it provides a better, more varied gaming experience. I can think of a hundred situations in Half-Life where the alt-fire was useful. Sticking to a single firing mode is Carmack's ego getting in the way of game development.

Propably because it would be impossible with current computers.

It sucks, but I agree.

 

[Lucky]

i thought it was designed to be playable around the 8500.

 

[XMan]

Not needed? By taking out immersive gameplay? The USE key gives the illusion the gamer is in the game making things happen. Opening cabinets, flipping switches, pulling levers, picking up keys, etc. These things we've taken for granted in other games. Carmack didn't want the USE key because it was "gimmicky" so the gamer uses the rediculous flash-like interface for interactivity. He thinks that isn't gimmicky?!

Whew, thanks for reviewing this feature in an unreleased game. I now know I won't be buying Doom III because you have declared it "gimmicky."

 

[Mutilator]

Originally posted by: Lucky
i thought it was designed to be playable around the 8500.

There's a huge difference between playable and 1600x1200 ultra high graphics settings.
Playable is 640x480 - 800x600 @ 30FPS or more at low-medium quality settings.

 

[Emos]

I'll definitely need to upgrade my video card (currently a 64MB GeForce 3) but will an Athlon XP 1900 (1.61 GHz) processor handle the game easily?

 

[ElFenix]

damn, it looks better than the bmw 5 series!

 

[Mutilator]

You guys asking about XP processors aren't reading the article are you? 😛
"With a Pentium 4 or Athlon XP and 512MB RAM, backed by top range sound and video setups, you should enjoy the new technology to it's fullest degree."

The video card will probably be tested more than a 1900... but ofcourse the video card is faster with a faster processor.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: X-Man

Whew, thanks for reviewing this feature in an unreleased game. I now know I won't be buying Doom III because you have declared it "gimmicky."

You missed the point entirely. Carmack removed the USE key because he thought it was a gimmick. How is the flash-interface NOT a gimmick? He may have his reasons for not including a USE key, but calling it a gimmick is load of BS.

gim·mick (gmk)
n.
1.
a) A device employed to cheat, deceive, or trick, especially a mechanism for the secret and dishonest control of gambling apparatus.
b) An innovative or unusual mechanical contrivance; a gadget.

2.
a) An innovative stratagem or scheme employed especially to promote a project: an advertising gimmick.
b) A significant feature that is obscured, misrepresented, or not readily evident; a catch.
c) A small object whose name does not come readily to mind.

 

[kami]

HOLY FS%KING CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[StageLeft]

They are nice but this game will suck a donkey's dick. In carmack's own words

Doom III will have spectacular rendering and art, and mediocre AI and multiplay"

! So basically another technology demo. At least the engine, which will rock, can be licensed to make good games 😀

 

[XMan]

Originally posted by: KnightBreed

Originally posted by: X-Man

Whew, thanks for reviewing this feature in an unreleased game. I now know I won't be buying Doom III because you have declared it "gimmicky."

Uh, reviewed the feature? Somehow me calling it stupid is considered a review? Besides, you missed the point entirely. Carmack's decision on removing the USE key because he calls it a gimmick. How is the flash-interface NOT a gimmick? He may have his reasons for not including a USE key, but calling it a gimmick is load of BS.

gim·mick (gmk)
n.
1.
a) A device employed to cheat, deceive, or trick, especially a mechanism for the secret and dishonest control of gambling apparatus.
b) An innovative or unusual mechanical contrivance; a gadget.

2.
a) An innovative stratagem or scheme employed especially to promote a project: an advertising gimmick.
b) A significant feature that is obscured, misrepresented, or not readily evident; a catch.
c) A small object whose name does not come readily to mind.

My point is that you haven't even played the game yet - how can you know if the feature will work or not?

 

[waggy]

man cant wait for this to come out!

if i have to upgrade no problem gives me a reason to get a GF4 over my GF3 =) and upgrade my 1.3 to something nice hehe

 

[Maverick]

this game probably won't be out till next summer at the earliest...so don't worry about upgrading to any of the current cards for it. The whole "Playable at 800x600 on a Radeon 9700" is very subjective. Their definition of playable might be 30 fps. Anand has stated that Doom 3 will have 80MB textures. That makes it seem like you'll need a 256+MB video card to really enjoy the game with full detail.

Those of you who are used to your 100 fps in every game out there will find that Doom 3 to be a rude awakening. Video cards have been overpowered for the past 2 years. Even the top of the line card at Doom 3's release will probably choke back to 60 fps or less with every detail turned on.

So don't worry about upgrading till we get closer to the release. They'll release a doom3 test like they did for all the quakes, that will be the first true benchmark. Don't upgrade till the benchmarks using that test come out.