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Lifer
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Imprecise does NOT equal inaccurate. Where the hell did you go to school that you didnt learn the one basic thing? Do I have to draw a diagram for you?

AA reduces jaggies and AF sharpens textures are perfectly fine definitions for most people. While not going into technical details, they are certainly not off the mark. There are obviously many nuances for both algorithms, and many exceptions, but there is a time and place for them, and youre making the assumption thats its ALWAYS that time and place.

People are not stupid to think that AA is a magical technique that makes jaggies vanish out of thin air, and if they want to know more about it, theres nothing wrong with that. But dont be a dick with a holier than thou attitude that assumes from the start that everyone else is stupid because theyre not talking on your level on a subject.

Someone comes along and asks what a car is, and their friend explains to them how its used for transportation, how you can carry stuff with it, and a general description of its physical appearance. Then you jump in and start flying off the hook about how wrong and stupid the other person is because they did not describe the engineering and physics behind the internal combustion engine, the treading on the tires, etc. "I bet you dont even know what a car is!" :roll:

I think Im going to go play thief. I dunno why I even bother with this sh*t sometimes.

:beer: for the normal people in the house.
 

jim1976

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: jim1976
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: BFG10K
Why in the world run something at 16x12 with AA and AF? That seems like a waste. At that resolution you dont need those.
Maybe not AA but AF is actually more important the higher up you go. You need it to match the sharpness provided by the resolution.

Of course for you, it has to be 1600x1200 @ 8xAA 32xAF and 210fps to be playable. :roll:

I higly doubt you know what AF does,no matter what you said in your previous post.
He's explaining to you why AF is essential at these res, and you act like a 10 yer old child? BTW are you?

I highly doubt you know what the fvck you're talking about n00b. Defending one of the forum's least popular members is not a good way to go. You don't know how he is, you don't know why I said what I said, so mind your own.

STFU nerd. I see almost 7500 posts in 1 year. That makes you respectable? Re$pect my a$$.
And FYI you're not even close to BFG10K's years and knowledge, you spoiled brat.
 

BenSkywalker

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Imprecise does NOT equal inaccurate. Where the hell did you go to school that you didnt learn the one basic thing? Do I have to draw a diagram for you?

Well, I didn't go to a fine institution where they teach retreading tires, although they did teach us a bit about a language called English-

Entry: inaccurate
Function: adjective
Definition: erroneous
Synonyms: all wet, careless, counterfactual, defective, discrepant, doesn't wash, fallacious, false, faulty, imprecise, in error, incorrect, inexact, mistaken, off, off base, out, specious, unfaithful, unreliable, unsound, untrue, way off, wide, wild, wrong
Concept: error

Entry: incorrect
Function: adjective
Definition: wrong
Synonyms: all wet, counterfactual, erroneous, false, faulty, flawed, imprecise, improper, inaccurate, inappropriate, inexact, mistaken, not trustworthy, out, specious, unfitting, unreliable, unseemly, unsound, unsuitable, untrue, way off, wrong number
Concept: error

Is English a second language for you? If so I apologize for the sarcasm above, if not I would strongly advise you don't send your children to school where you went for their own good.

AA reduces jaggies and AF sharpens textures are perfectly fine definitions for most people.

Most people don't care to know anything at all about them. Those that do shouldn't be given inaccurate information.

Someone comes along and asks what a car is, and their friend explains to them how its used for transportation, how you can carry stuff with it, and a general description of its physical appearance.

No, the half wit definitions I see are more along the lines of someone asking what a car is and saying 'I get to work in one' and leaving it at that.

But dont be a dick with a holier than thou attitude that assumes from the start that everyone else is stupid because theyre not talking on your level on a subject.

If you notice I was only a dick to the people who were either being dicks themselves directly, or defending the spread of misinformation by said people.
 

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Lifer
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If you really dont know the difference between precision and accuracy, then you truely are an idiot. I give up.
 

Gamingphreek

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Well lets get this thread on topic and drop the argument.

With the benchmarks released by |H| it seems that to run it decently with most setting maxed your gonna need one of these three cards
Geforce 6800GT
ATI Radeon X800XT
Geforce 6800U
(6800UE ???? )

However that is not to say that the X800Pro is a bad card by anymeans it canrun extremely fast with a lot of settings. However, the 6800GT is better than the X800Pro due to its 16 pipelines. (Please dont flame me for that, it is justified).

Also it seems that the Geforce 6 series has fixed everything except the fact that Nvidia shares a pixel shader/ alu for AF. It was a trade off so they had to do it.

Based on the benchmarks youll need a fairly high end system. Also it was more CPU dependant than originally thought too.

IMO i think this is what ya gonna need to max it out.
P4 3.2C, E or higher
Any of the above graphics cards
1024mb of PC3200 memory in dual channel

This brings me to my next point when people think of Doom III they immediately think of GRAPHICS. However a long long time like when DoomIII was announced Carmack said that to truely experience the game you not only need a good graphics system but a good sound system.

Therefore i think:
Audigy class sound card, Soundstorm, New Intel Audio (on 925x)
5.1 surround speakers, (Z-640's, Z-680's, Creative Gigaworks (the ones that can go from 5.1 to 7.1) and the ever famous Klipsch Promedia 5.1 or 5.1 Ultras)

Also something that we have not thought about is space. How much space will the game require. Seeing as the FS2004 (the game that i know that requires more than 4 gig of space) requires 4 gig o space, DoomII with all these textures and things is gonna need upwards of 5 or 6 gigs. For those of us (like me) with HDD under 40gig :) we might want to be a bit wary.

-Kevin
 

BenSkywalker

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Therefore i think:
Audigy class sound card, Soundstorm, New Intel Audio (on 925x)
5.1 surround speakers, (Z-640's, Z-680's, Creative Gigaworks (the ones that can go from 5.1 to 7.1) and the ever famous Klipsch Promedia 5.1 or 5.1 Ultras)

All of the calculations for the sound engine are handled by the processor so the important element is that you have a sound card with good DACs that can output a 5.1 audio stream. The TBSC 5.1 will almost certainly be better then Intel's new audio or SS(barring using digitial out of course).

For those of us (like me) with HDD under 40gig we might want to be a bit wary.

I'm getting sketchy with 200GB, how are you making due with 40??

If you really dont know the difference between precision and accuracy, then you truely are an idiot.

Since by definition the words have the same implication perhaps you are talking about their respective roots? Both come from Latin bases although accuracy is a word that came through to English via the Germanic roots of the language while precise was a relatively recent addition to the language coming through on the Romance side(French IIRC).
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
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For those of us (like me) with HDD under 40gig we might want to be a bit wary.

I'm getting sketchy with 200GB, how are you making due with 40??


Relax, Doom III "only" requires 2GB HD space. ;)

i used a Maxtor 40GB until February when i upgraded to 120GB; it had 36GB of "junk" on it. :p
 

SPIDEI2MAN

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errr will my comp be able to run this??????

I have a compaq presario R3000T laptop

Celeron 2.8
256 RAM
ATI RADEON Mobility 9000 IGP
JBL PRO Sound


Whaddya think??? Even on the lowest settting?
 

FreshFish

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Originally posted by: SPIDEI2MAN
errr will my comp be able to run this??????

I have a compaq presario R3000T laptop

Celeron 2.8
256 RAM
ATI RADEON Mobility 9000 IGP
JBL PRO Sound


Whaddya think??? Even on the lowest settting?



Ouch...I would guess no. I would think you need more RAM if nothing else. Anyone else?
 

SPIDEI2MAN

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Well On other forums ive been told that I need a RAM increase but other than that, I'm totally fine...on the lowest settings of course. But seriously...any thoughts?
 

Runner20

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Apparently there is not a computer commercially available to run DoomIII in all its glory. That should tell you something right there.

I would say that a 6800U will run the game pretty well at 1024x768. We'll see when the game is released though. I'm just basing this off the leaked PC Gamer (?) article.


Is 6800U same as 6800 Ultra?
 

SPIDEI2MAN

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Originally posted by: Runner20
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Apparently there is not a computer commercially available to run DoomIII in all its glory. That should tell you something right there.

I would say that a 6800U will run the game pretty well at 1024x768. We'll see when the game is released though. I'm just basing this off the leaked PC Gamer (?) article.


Is 6800U same as 6800 Ultra?

Yes
 

SPIDEI2MAN

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Aug 2, 2004
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Originally posted by: Runner20
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Apparently there is not a computer commercially available to run DoomIII in all its glory. That should tell you something right there.

I would say that a 6800U will run the game pretty well at 1024x768. We'll see when the game is released though. I'm just basing this off the leaked PC Gamer (?) article.


Is 6800U same as 6800 Ultra?

Yes