DOOM 3 QUESTION, RIGHT HERE!

[YoungChowFun]

I beg to differ on some topics of doom 3. I don't really take the 'alpha' version doom as it is not the real thing. I remember seeing an article a while back at ati.
This is it here:
http://www.ati.com/technology/hardware/mobilityradeon9000/testimonials.html
They said that a labtop, with a radeon mobility 9000 can play doom 3 with eye candy. All the settings set to high. This was said by carmack himself. If a laptop with a 9000 will be able to power doom as that article says, then will I really need a radeon 9500+ or a ti series or can i just stick to my 8500? I usually play with eye candy. Is there still hope for an 8500 playing doom 3 with eye candy? I mean if a laptop with a 9000 radeon (which people are saying that an 8500 is sitll better,) why cant a desktop with an 8500 do just about the same?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I think at the end of the day, you have to pay to play. A Radeon 8500 probably will be able to play Doom III, but probably not at a high resolution with all the eye candy enabled, at a smooth framerate. That said, there is certainly no harm in waiting and seeing, as long as you are happy with your 8500 for the time being. I just upgraded my video card (to a 9700), but I was going from a GF3ti200, so there actually was a meaningful improvement. I imagine by the time D3 is out, the 9700 will be much cheaper, and the 9800 or 9900 (or perhaps a later product still in early development) will rule the roost.

 

[Killrose]

I think Carmack had said somewhere (I have no links) that the 8500 was the target video card, and that it would provide playable framerates with nearly all effects on,(or something close to that, but of course it also depends on CPU and resolution too).

I read this about 4-5months or so ago.

 

[sash1]

"I don't really take the 'alpha' version doom as it is not the real thing"

Neither do I, it's a pretty stupid thing to base actual performance in the real game on.

"They said that a labtop, with a radeon mobility 9000 can play doom 3 with eye candy. All the settings set to high. This was said by carmack himself."

Umm, no where in that article did he say that...

"I usually play with eye candy. Is there still hope for an 8500 playing doom 3 with eye candy?"

I highly doubt it. Take a look at Unreal II for a second. This game is giving a lot of people some fps trouble. Even BFG10K, the fps freak () only manages to squander out 50-60fps "with no action by running at 1152 x 864 with disabled shadows and FSAA."

I know Doom III isn't going to be on this same engine, but it should be about equal in (graphical) intensity if not more.

~Aunix

 

[Glitchny]

Yes doom3 is targeted to cards in the 8500 range and the geforce3ti series, caramack has said that multiple times, and so have i but noone seems to listen

 

[ScrewFace]

I tried Tenabrau Quake and it basically uses the Doom III engine and it runs like crap at 640x480 on my system so Doom III is going to cause the computer industry to rebound thanks to Carmack with everybody upgrading just for Doom III (including me!).

 

[BoomAM]

Doom3 has been targeted by J.C. to run on a GF3/8500 level of cards, with medium detail, and low/medium resolutions.
J.C. is also trying to make the game run ok on a GF2 GTS level card, with low detail/res.

I was reading an article a while back in PC Zone UK, and apparently a GF4 Ti4600 can run doom3, at medium res, at 1024x768(or was it 1280x1024? can`t remember).
With this in mind, we can sort of predict what sort of details/res`s we can do with various cards.

If J.C. has said he will make it run on a GF2GTS card, then your dam sure that it will. J.C. is the master of tweaking.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: ScrewFace
I tried Tenabrau Quake and it basically uses the Doom III engine and it runs like crap at 640x480 on my system...

No, it doesn't basically use the Doom III engine. They're 2 entirely different engines. They use a similar technique to render the shadows (stencil shadows), but the polygon counts, texture resolution, and most importantly the actual code is completely different.

...so Doom III is going to cause the computer industry to rebound thanks to Carmack with everybody upgrading just for Doom III (including me!).

The gaming industry thanks you.

 

[kylebisme]

i don't pretend to understand everything John Carmack says by any means; but at least how i understand it, when he says "can play" he means at 640x480 and just staying above 30fps. given that, i would say your 8500 would handle 800x600 good and you might eb able to push 1024x768 depending on how good a setup you have all around and what framerate you consider playable.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

The Alpha runs pefectly fine @ 1024x768 on an 8500. Sure didn't have full eye candy (no FSAA or AF), but what I was seeing while "playing" was completely amazing and the eye candy just raised the bar for sweetness.

You will not be dissapointed with default settings and 1024x764 on a Radeon 8500. But you'll sure need something faster if you want to be more than "merely" blown away.

 

[BoomAM]

I take it that you have the Alpha then bunnyfubbles?
If so, does the Doom3 Alpha thing off Kazaa work, or is it a dud?