Haha, you guys are great sometimes...sorry i didnt post back i was playing and got cought up in some other stuff... I did buy the retail game.
It was because i had clone cd installed.
Sorry for late update. Dont jump to conclusions so quickly.
Edit:
Just read through the replies again...special thanks to JBT and Dug and anyone else who actually had respect enough to not assume i was downloading it.
It was because i had clone cd installed.
Sorry for late update. Dont jump to conclusions so quickly.
Edit:
Just read through the replies again...special thanks to JBT and Dug and anyone else who actually had respect enough to not assume i was downloading it.
since when do games cost 55 + tax... jesus... plus a $400 video card every year... eff this... my $1400 guitar will last me a lifetime 
I would like to second all the people defending the original poster. I bought the game earlier tonight, installed, and ran into the same problem.
The copy protection scheme actually *searched* for an *installation* of clonecd and refused to run when it found it. My version is so old (3.0.9.1) it doesn't even do emulation and absolutely no part of it was running. I had to literally uninstall clonecd before the game would work.
I could have downloaded the damn thing days ago and been playing without a hitch. I'm so tired of these copy protection schemes. This is the last damn game I'm ever going to buy.
The copy protection scheme actually *searched* for an *installation* of clonecd and refused to run when it found it. My version is so old (3.0.9.1) it doesn't even do emulation and absolutely no part of it was running. I had to literally uninstall clonecd before the game would work.
I could have downloaded the damn thing days ago and been playing without a hitch. I'm so tired of these copy protection schemes. This is the last damn game I'm ever going to buy.
What the hell! You're right.
I purchased the game and couldn't get it to install. I kept getting:
"Error: -1603 Fatal error during installation
Consult Windows Installer Help (Msi.chm) or MSDM for more information"
So I go to the Activision support link and one of their fixes is a manual install, so I copy the cd files manually into my drive and when I ran it I got that "CD/DVD emulation software has been detected message" message! WTF!
So after reading this thread I uninstalled CloneCd and it ran. This is bullcrap! What other programs on my harddrive should have no bearing on whether I can run their game.
The irony is that people who downloaded it without paying for it probably had less of a problem getting it to run than I did, a legitimate purchaser! Thanks for making your product so user friendly to your paying custumers, Id.
I purchased the game and couldn't get it to install. I kept getting:
"Error: -1603 Fatal error during installation
Consult Windows Installer Help (Msi.chm) or MSDM for more information"
So I go to the Activision support link and one of their fixes is a manual install, so I copy the cd files manually into my drive and when I ran it I got that "CD/DVD emulation software has been detected message" message! WTF!
So after reading this thread I uninstalled CloneCd and it ran. This is bullcrap! What other programs on my harddrive should have no bearing on whether I can run their game.
The irony is that people who downloaded it without paying for it probably had less of a problem getting it to run than I did, a legitimate purchaser! Thanks for making your product so user friendly to your paying custumers, Id.
True in many ways. The people (most of them anyhow) that download it and other software know full well how to bypass things like that.
Those type of copy protection schemes seem to do more damage to legitimate customers than combat piracy.
Kind Regards,
Randawl
I had the same issue with CoD and Alcohol 120% the day I purchased it. I had to uninstall A120 to be able to play it. I compalined right away and got an e-mail back the same day telling me to doexactly that. However I believe that was fixed with the first patch due to many complaints. It runs fine now.
As for Doom 3, I had zero problems with A120%. The copy is actually mounted on a virtual drive as I type this. I'm assuming it depends on your machine configuration, what kind of CD/DVD drive are you using and so on. What I noticed though is that a backup copy on a CD errors out when I try to use it in my CDRW to play the game. I even went as far as to test whether it will install from the backup and it will. But it won't let me use it top play. The next interesting thing is that I made an image off the backup and mounted it on a virtual drive and it worked agian. I guess these emulation settings in A120% really make a difference.
BTW I only have "Ignore Media Type", "Launch mgr without IMT option" and "RPMS emulation" checked on. All the extra options are checked off. Maybe it'll make a difference to some of you guys too.
As for Doom 3, I had zero problems with A120%. The copy is actually mounted on a virtual drive as I type this. I'm assuming it depends on your machine configuration, what kind of CD/DVD drive are you using and so on. What I noticed though is that a backup copy on a CD errors out when I try to use it in my CDRW to play the game. I even went as far as to test whether it will install from the backup and it will. But it won't let me use it top play. The next interesting thing is that I made an image off the backup and mounted it on a virtual drive and it worked agian. I guess these emulation settings in A120% really make a difference.
BTW I only have "Ignore Media Type", "Launch mgr without IMT option" and "RPMS emulation" checked on. All the extra options are checked off. Maybe it'll make a difference to some of you guys too.
dude, this happened to me, just edit ur registry and take out anything that has to do with CloneCD
edit: this happened to me as well, i also purchased the game. just because u have a virtual CD program doesn't mean ur pirating.... its called BACK UP
edit: this happened to me as well, i also purchased the game. just because u have a virtual CD program doesn't mean ur pirating.... its called BACK UP
styrafoam
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I had to uninstall clone cd to get it to play too. I have never even used the "hide cdr media" function or let the system tray utility run at start-up.
All you people screaming warez get a life, like the others said the bootleg has all of the protections "fixed" for you.
All you people screaming warez get a life, like the others said the bootleg has all of the protections "fixed" for you.
I know this problem existed with UT2k4. It complained if CloneCD or Alcohol 120% were installed, but was mute on the subject of Daemon Tools. Second patch released for UT2k4 removed the copy protection, because it was giving legit users false positives on the software or the CD checking wouldn't work correctly.
Copy protection is no good when it pisses off your legit users.
Copy protection is no good when it pisses off your legit users.
Cerb
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But backing up means you have a COPY.
So if you scratch your stock CD up, which you will, swapping it in and out of the drive, you'll have a copy! Worse yet, you could scratch the copy up!
Then they don't make any money if you want to re-install the game later! It's as bad as letting you rip a CD error-free. You'll be able to keep the original in perfect condition, like when you bought it!
Don't you see the problem?!
:shocked:
This 'copy protection' method is becoming more common. A number of the newer games will actually search your PC for CD copying programs, and will either not run or not install.
The copying programs are often 1 step ahead, so the latest versions are usually not detected reliably - but older, less functional versions will cause you problems.
Unfortunately, I've found that the software publishers are very unhelpful when it comes to helping out in this situation. I had a lot of trouble a few years ago, when I used SCSI CD-ROM drives. Half my games wouldn't run at all. The advice from the publishers was 'buy another CD ROM drive'. In the end I had to visit warez sites and download cracks for the games I had bought in good faith.
I suspect that this checking will get removed in a later patch (just as happened with Quake II/III, UT2k4 and a number of other games) because it causes so many problems.
The copying programs are often 1 step ahead, so the latest versions are usually not detected reliably - but older, less functional versions will cause you problems.
Unfortunately, I've found that the software publishers are very unhelpful when it comes to helping out in this situation. I had a lot of trouble a few years ago, when I used SCSI CD-ROM drives. Half my games wouldn't run at all. The advice from the publishers was 'buy another CD ROM drive'. In the end I had to visit warez sites and download cracks for the games I had bought in good faith.
I suspect that this checking will get removed in a later patch (just as happened with Quake II/III, UT2k4 and a number of other games) because it causes so many problems.
Originally posted by: RockGuitarDude
since when do games cost 55 + tax... jesus... plus a $400 video card every year... eff this... my $1400 guitar will last me a lifetime
But your guitar doesnt sound twice as good every year if you keep buying new ones
Id sucks for pissing off the people they should be loving. Paying $55 for a game, then being unable to run the game from your HD (hopefully speeding the game up) or make a backup copy or even leave other software installed. I don't know about all of you, but I know the industry severely pisses me off!
yeah, makes me wanna play a game or two for free.
the really sick part is that they are selling you a 10cent peice of plastic for $55. It's not Like i havent given iD enough over the years for doom 1+2 + all the mods and extra level packs I bought years ago. (before i knew how to emulate : )
Edit: plz excuse the ranting, my corporate job can really get the blood boiling. YEAH bill collecting!
I downloaded D3 and haven't got it working yet.
I'll gladly go pay $55 for the game if I like it and find that it's playable with my GF4 Ti. I mean, I only play FPS games online, and you need a legit CD key to play online.
I'm not going to go pay for it if it's going to make me jump through hoops just to get it to install, though. For Christ's sake, isn't the CD key enough copy protection? 99% of people buying ID software only want to play online, and people who don't play online probably aren't going to get online to pirate software. I know some people who play games like Quake 3 and Diablo II in single-player only, and let me tell you, these are not the people with broadband connections spending all day on eDonkey and Torrent sites.
I'll gladly go pay $55 for the game if I like it and find that it's playable with my GF4 Ti. I mean, I only play FPS games online, and you need a legit CD key to play online.
I'm not going to go pay for it if it's going to make me jump through hoops just to get it to install, though. For Christ's sake, isn't the CD key enough copy protection? 99% of people buying ID software only want to play online, and people who don't play online probably aren't going to get online to pirate software. I know some people who play games like Quake 3 and Diablo II in single-player only, and let me tell you, these are not the people with broadband connections spending all day on eDonkey and Torrent sites.
VirtualLarry
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Whoa, that's f**ked. I guess I'm never going to buy D3 then, unless they drop that stupid crap. What *additional* software that I choose to install and run on my PC is my business. Activision/iD have no right to dictate to me what "allowed" software is. That's nearly as bad as software that un-installs other software when it finds it on the machine (ad-ware deleting anti-ad-ware tools, etc).
This is clearly, totally, unacceptable.
(Not that my current XP2000 and Radeon9200 could have played the game to an acceptable level of performance anyways, really. But refusing to buy it based on principle alone does sound so much better.)
Alternatively, you could have multiple OS installs, one strictly for games, allowing all of that copy-protection/DRM crap and not installing any CD burning/emulating software, etc., and then have a seperate OS install for "other" things. Actually, that's about what I have now, although I prefer gaming in W2K rather than XP, as it's so much smoother.
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