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Marsumane

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Originally posted by: daveybrat
I wonder how my FX 5900XT will fare? I won't run the game with any AA or AF on, i just want to run it at 1024x768 at "high" details and get 30fps+.

:)

Based on the benchmarks, I think that card is capable of 30fps. Probably a bit more actually, but not too much.
 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: Regs
Just think of the expansions, add ons , mods, and other first person shooters to come after this! OMg I need a girlfriend....
I have a fulfilling sex life but it's still exciting chit man! :beer:

You may have a fulfilling sex life, but I will be playing Doom3 on your 5800Ultra on my son's AXP 1700+! Mwahahahaha


;)
 

CaiNaM

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well, not sure what all the posturing is about - we all knew nv40 was going to have the upper hand in Doom3.

while it's now confimed what we've always expected (nv hardware would be faster), it's quite playable on all this gen hardware, and even more remarkably, it looks like it will be quite playable on r3xx/nv35.

dang.. wish my gt woulda gotten here before i left.... and i really wish i wasn't on the road for the next 2 weeks :(
 

DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: Regs
Just think of the expansions, add ons , mods, and other first person shooters to come after this! OMg I need a girlfriend....
I have a fulfilling sex life but it's still exciting chit man! :beer:

You may have a fulfilling sex life, but I will be playing Doom3 on your 5800Ultra on my son's AXP 1700+! Mwahahahaha


;)
Doh! :( I want conjugal visits :p
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: g3pro
30+ FPS on a 59XX card on high detail at 1024x768.

EXACTLY what I wanted, and it was delivered. BOOYAH!!! :D
Don't forget, your 32.1 FPS is WITH 4xAA/8xAF!

looks like i got to "settle" for 10x7 - HiQ - 2xAA/4xAF with more than 30 fps . . . MORE than i expected for my 9800XT!

:)

and i was told this was "impossible"

kidos to Carmack and the id team!

I didn't realize the fx5900s were smacking up the 9800xts in this bench until I read your post. How the tables have turned. :p
NEITHER has really exceptionally playable FPS - 5950U (32.1) vs. 9800XT (26.9) at 10x7 with HIGH Quality and 4xAA/8xAF;

HOWEVER, turn OFF the AA/AF and both the 9800xt (45.7) and the 5950u (43.4) do VERY well leading me to believe i (and 5950u owners) can add a "bit" - say 2xAA/4XAF - and still get WELL over 30FPS . . . remember this is on HiQ!

NOW, look at the last (of many) variable(s) - MED Quality [10x7 no aa/af] (where the XT just edges out the 5950u) at OVER 50 FPS!!!!

The 9800XT beats the 5950u until the AA/AF is turned on . . . either way should be great!
 

Blastman

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Originally posted by: BenSkywalker

The removal of the NV3x codepath seems to indicate that ATi is doing much better in the game then we would have thought based on available data back during the 5950 launch timeframe, although conversely nVidia's FP shader performance is significantly higher then what many stated numerous times.

No. NV has been working very closely with id on optimizing Doom3. Is it any wonder it runs comparatively well on NV cards.

beyond3d?

The quote is from me. Nvidia probably IS "cheating" to some degree,
recognizing the Doom shaders and substituting optimized ones, because I
have found that making some innocuous changes causes the performance to
drop all the way back down to the levels it used to run at. I do set the
precision hint to allow them to use 16 bit floating point for everything,
which gets them back in the ballpark of the R300 cards, but generally still
a bit lower. ??????????.

Feel free to post these comments.

John Carmack
 

ai42

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Originally posted by: Regs
Carmack should be named Nerd of the century. ;)
No kidding you read up on his space craft thing right?... I've actually met Carmak at QuakeCon a couple years back and OMG he is just incredibely smart. I'm a pretty smart guy but basically he is like three steps ahead of you when you talk to him. He is still a cool guy and his works is just revolutionary like always.

FYI... I don't think many people put much thought into the the overclock bits of the article.
Anyway since quite literally D3 is going to be using transitors and bits that have never really been used before there are two conserns I have.
1. It would be theoretically possible to have a GPU defect that causes artifacts in the game.
2. Since it is utilitzing more transistors it would also stand to reason that the GPU temperature would increase (perhaps limiting maximmum overclock speed as well)
 

VisableAssassin

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Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous

btw, what happened to your bold statement that the 5900s would crush the 9800s in this game?

I wouldnt call it an asswhuppin on either part but the 5950 did get ahead here so thats not too shabby..but lower than what Id wanna play at
 

hans007

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Originally posted by: Megatomic
It sure would have been nice to see numbers on a low end machine, like say mine.

Barton/NF2/1GB PC3200/9800P

How long before the other sites get to bench with D3?

wow. if that is a "low end " machine...



well i am wondering how it'll run on my "ancient pile of crap"

barton 2500, sis 741 chipset, 512 ddr400 , 9600 pro
 

Zebo

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and I'm not a "what would you rather ride?!?! A cow or a goat?!?!?"
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lol:)
 

Blastman

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Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
I only think that's the case for the NV30 cards. Optimizing and FX pretty much go hand in hand.
You?re right, I edited in more of the quote to show it?s about the NV3X?s. Although, who knows what type of optimizations NV has for the NV40.
 

VisableAssassin

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Originally posted by: Blastman
Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
I only think that's the case for the NV30 cards. Optimizing and FX pretty much go hand in hand.
You?re right, I edited in more of the quote to show it?s about the NV3X?s. Although, who knows what type of optimizations NV has for the NV40.

Same goes for ATi and its 420....
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: VisableAssassin
Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous

btw, what happened to your bold statement that the 5900s would crush the 9800s in this game?

I wouldnt call it an asswhuppin on either part but the 5950 did get ahead here so thats not too shabby..but lower than what Id wanna play at

Exactly 5900's come out ahead period...http://www2.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjQyLDQ=

Glad mines OC'ed waayyy past 5950 ultra levels (520/986) and cores only hitting 35C in games (god I love water) so no need to worry about Caramacks "new usage patterns" concerns for overlcoked GPUs;)... I bet I'll be right with there 6800NU. and Well past any 9800XT...
 

ai42

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"new usage patterns"
You know John Carmack is sitting there with those niffty infrared heat guns that takes pictures of heat sources and is comparing cards playing his game vs other games :)
 

BFG10K

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The R420 has the same stencil/Z capabilities as the NV40 but ATi's lackluster OpenGL ICD is probably responsible for the low scores.

looks like it will play nice on a 9700pro oc'ed
Uh, did you even look at the benchmark results?
 

Childs

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Originally posted by: Megatomic
Doom3 is the one that matters most because it is the game coming out at this time. Stalker will matter later this year and the jury's still out as to whether or not HL2 will ever matter....


Stalker will get Nv lovin as well, in that I got a nice Stalker Tshirt with the Nvidia logo on it at E3.

It was also interesting to note the Carmack brought up the colored mip levels thing with the ATI cards. Anyways, the numbers gave me a deep sigh of relief, as I should be able to play the D3 engine based games at 1280X1024 at med to high settings for some time to come. Now I dont feel so bad about dropping $400 on a freakin video card.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: BFG10K
The R420 has the same stencil/Z capabilities as the NV40 but ATi's lackluster OpenGL ICD is probably responsible for the low scores.

looks like it will play nice on a 9700pro oc'ed
Uh, did you even look at the benchmark results?

OMG It won't do 1600x1200 8xAA 32xAF @ 240fps! UNPLAYABLE. GOAT OR COW?!?!?! *foams at the mouth*

/nazi
 

BFG10K

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OMG It won't do 1600x1200 8xAA 32xAF @ 240fps! UNPLAYABLE. GOAT OR COW?!?!?! *foams at the mouth"
Seriously, have you hit the age of thirteen yet?
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: BFG10K
OMG It won't do 1600x1200 8xAA 32xAF @ 240fps! UNPLAYABLE. GOAT OR COW?!?!?! *foams at the mouth"
Seriously, have you hit the age of thirteen yet?

You deserved it for that irritating, vauge, condesending and uninformative reply...like this one again..

Of course he saw the benches which is why he commented he'll be alright with his 9700pro... why not at 10x7???
 

Shad0hawK

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Originally posted by: hans007
Originally posted by: Megatomic
It sure would have been nice to see numbers on a low end machine, like say mine.

Barton/NF2/1GB PC3200/9800P

How long before the other sites get to bench with D3?

wow. if that is a "low end " machine...



well i am wondering how it'll run on my "ancient pile of crap"

barton 2500, sis 741 chipset, 512 ddr400 , 9600 pro


it is real easy to make that 2500 a 3200...i have built many systems at work with that chip and have yet to see one not be made an instant 3200(on NF2 boards) by changing the fsb to 400 and adding varying degrees of voltage as required by the chip, most will even post at stock voltage.

my 2500 has run at 3200 for over a year now, everyday overclock and rock solid stable at 1.725 volts