Don't you just hate sterotypes?

[sMiLeYz]

Alright, everyone here knows I'm a liberal and damn proud of it. But there are sterotypes I can't stand and are simply false. Actually, let's call them what they are... myths.

Myth #1
All democrats are liberals/socialists and vice versa.
-Not true, theres plenty of conservative Democrats in congress or the house, for example the infamous senator Bryd. Theres a Green party that most disillusioned liberals flock to.

Myth #2
Only liberals and terrorists criticize Bush...
- That would make most of the world liberal... dare i say I say liberal? Or maybe the rest of the world sees Bush for what he truly is. A complete tool.
Most of the moderates here, even some conservatives here have changed their opinion of Bush if you've been following these forums. I have conservative, I'm talking "Reagan Republican" friends who routinely criticize Bush.

Myth #3
The left has a love affair with Clintons
- Get real. I only thought he was a good president and I highly respected his intellect, but jesus christ I'm not as obssessed with him as some conservatives.
And Hillary, omfg, the right are obsessed with hate for her. There are a bazillion hate hillary and hate Bill books, and they keep coming out! Heartsurgeon and Galt keep posting more Clinton bashes, after they grew tired of bashing France or Chirac. Those who continue to attack Clinton even though hes been out of Office for four years, should really move on. I disagree with Bill and Hillary on many things, and I can't stand them sometimes. They certainly aren't the spokesperson for the left.

All I know is... I've never felt safer, the economy was never more wonderful, and future of America never seemed so bright when the Clintons were in Office. I can't say the same for our current president.

Myth #4
"Liberals/Democrats hate Christians"
- No we liberals don't hate Christians. We hate stupid people who insist on forcing their beliefs on to us. It doesn't matter if they're Buddhists, Muslim, Jewish or fvcking Scientologists. It so happens that many of these stupid people are Christians. Everything from removing Evolution cirriculum from schools, refusing contraceptives to rape victims, or trying to ban gay marriage.

Myth #5
"Liberals take PETA seriously"
-Hahaha.... no. They have a noble cause, but the way they go about their business of promoting the cause is stupid and counterproductive.

Feel free to post any liberal/conservative sterotypes or myths of your own that you can't stand.

 

[wkabel23]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Alright, everyone here knows I'm a liberal and damn proud of it. But there are sterotypes I can't stand and are simply false. Actually, let's call them what they are... myths.

Myth #1
All democrats are liberals/socialists and vice versa.
-Not true, theres plenty of conservative Democrats in congress or the house, for example the infamous senator Bryd. Theres a Green party that most disillusioned liberals.

Myth #2
Only liberals and terrorists criticize Bush...
- That would make most of the world liberal... dare i say I say liberal? Or maybe the rest of the world sees Bush for what he truly is. A complete tool.
Most of the moderates here, even some conservatives here have changed their opinion of Bush if you've been following these forums. I have conservative, I'm talking "Reagan Republican" friends who routinely criticize Bush.

Myth #3
The left has a love affair with Clintons
- Get real. I only thought he was a good president and I highly respected his intellect, but jesus christ I'm not as obssessed with him as some conservatives.
And Hillary, omfg, the right are obsessed with hate for her. There are a bazillion hate hillary and hate Bill books, and they keep coming out! Heartsurgeon and Galt keep posting more Clinton bashes, after they grew tired of bashing France or Chirac. Those who continue to attack Clinton even though hes been out of Office for four years, should really move on. I disagree with Bill and Hillary on many things, and I can't stand them sometimes. They certainly aren't the spokesperson for the left.

All I know is... I've never felt safer, the economy was never more wonderful, and future of America never seemed so bright when the Clintons were in Office. I can't say the same for our current president.

Myth #4
"Liberals/Democrats hate Christians"
- No we liberals don't hate Christians. We hate stupid people who insist on forcing their beliefs on to us. It doesn't matter if they're Buddhists, Muslim, Jewish or fvcking Scientologists. It so happens that many of these stupid people are Christians. Everything from removing Evolution cirriculum from schools, refusing contraceptives to rape victims, or trying to ban gay marriage.

Myth #5
"Liberals take PETA seriously"
-Hahaha.... no. They have a noble cause, but the way they go about their business of promoting the cause is stupid and counterproductive.

Feel free to post any sterotypes or myths of your own that you can't stand.

haha nice :beer:

Although in adding to your first myth, I can't stand when a conservative calls a liberal a "communist." I also can't stand it when someone calls Bush a fascist.

Oh and heres a good myth: liberals don't serve in the military. Does this even really need to be proven wrong?

 

[alchemize]

Can you think of any conservative stereotypes, my open minded liberal?

 

[Perknose]

Thanks, sMiLeYz, all that needed to be said.

I can only add a couple of adjunct points like:

Pointing out the lies and missteps of the Bush administration means you are unpatriotic and hate America.

Criticizing narrow minded Christian Fundamentalists and their bizzaro version of an angry, exclusionary God means that you hate Christians and, of course, could not possibly be a Christian yourself.

Criticizing the bloody and tragic blunder of Bush's Iraqi war means you don't support the men and women of the United States Armed Forces and really really love Sadaam Hussein.

And on and on and on, ad infinitum.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: alchemize
Can you think of any conservative stereotypes, my open minded liberal?

Feel the need to start a parody thread? Go for it.

EDIT: You know, the more I think about your sig alchie, the less I think it's a question, and the more I think it's a thinly disguised statement. In other words, how could they not be traitors - just look at 'em! You're not fooling anyone . . .

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: alchemize
Can you think of any conservative stereotypes, my open minded liberal?

Feel the need to start a parody thread? Go for it.

EDIT: You know, the more I think about your sig alchie, the less I think it's a question, and the more I think it's a thinly disguised statement. In other words, how could they not be traitors - just look at 'em! You're not fooling anyone . . .

Sounds like the evidence is pretty strong, huh? Depends on your definition of traitor, I suppose.

 

[DealMonkey]

You know alchie, there's nothing more American than expressing your opinions and making your voice heard. It hardly qualifies you as "open minded" though for suggesting those against the war are traitors.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
You know alchie, there's nothing more American than expressing your opinions and making your voice heard. It hardly qualifies you as "open minded" though for suggesting those against the war are traitors.

Really? Is Is this simply being against the war?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
You know alchie, there's nothing more American than expressing your opinions and making your voice heard. It hardly qualifies you as "open minded" though for suggesting those against the war are traitors.

Really? Is Is this simply being against the war?

It looks like support for anti-American Imperialism. Sounds logical to me.

Don't mistake loyalty for the country and hell, loyalty to humanity as a whole instead of the government as being a traitor.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
You know alchie, there's nothing more American than expressing your opinions and making your voice heard. It hardly qualifies you as "open minded" though for suggesting those against the war are traitors.

Really? Is Is this simply being against the war?

It looks like support for anti-American Imperialism. Sounds logical to me.

Don't mistake loyalty for the country and hell, loyalty to humanity as a whole instead of the government as being a traitor.

^^more evidence DealMonkey! Sorry it's just everywhere I can't help it

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
You know alchie, there's nothing more American than expressing your opinions and making your voice heard. It hardly qualifies you as "open minded" though for suggesting those against the war are traitors.

Really? Is Is this simply being against the war?

Well, I guess some people always want to push it, but I hardly think that sign qualifies anyone for treason. Beyond that however, you're attributing a certain degree of extremism in wide brush strokes to a large segment of the population. Even if some nutjob protested with a sign declaring "Let's Kill Americans" I would hardly assume he represented everyone on the left.

It's kind of like my comment in that other thread about conservatives wanting Gorelick dead. How does that feel? Does that feel right to you?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
You know alchie, there's nothing more American than expressing your opinions and making your voice heard. It hardly qualifies you as "open minded" though for suggesting those against the war are traitors.

Really? Is Is this simply being against the war?

It looks like support for anti-American Imperialism. Sounds logical to me.

Don't mistake loyalty for the country and hell, loyalty to humanity as a whole instead of the government as being a traitor.

^^more evidence DealMonkey! Sorry it's just everywhere I can't help it

Oh please. Give us a break from your inane jabbering.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: <B>DealMonkey
</B>

Beyond that however, you're attributing a certain degree of extremism in wide brush strokes to a large segment of the population. Even if some nutjob protested with a sign declaring "Let's Kill Americans" I would hardly assume he represented everyone on the left.

It's kind of like my comment in that other thread about conservatives wanting Gorelick dead. How does that feel? Does that feel right to you?

DealMonkey, stop being reasonable, alchemize isn't.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Perknose
<EM>

Originally posted by: <B>DealMonkey
</B></em>Beyond that however, you're attributing a certain degree of extremism in wide brush strokes to a large segment of the population. Even if some nutjob protested with a sign declaring "Let's Kill Americans" I would hardly assume he represented everyone on the left.

It's kind of like my comment in that other thread about conservatives wanting Gorelick dead. How does that feel? Does that feel right to you?

<STRONG>DealMonkey</strong>, stop being reasonable, <STRONG>alchemize</strong> isn't.

Interesting. When DealMonkey makes a post about "conservative death threats", he's being reasonable. When I point out support for violence on the left, I'm being unreasonable.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
You know alchie, there's nothing more American than expressing your opinions and making your voice heard. It hardly qualifies you as "open minded" though for suggesting those against the war are traitors.

Really? Is Is this simply being against the war?

Well, I guess some people always want to push it, but I hardly think that sign qualifies anyone for treason. Beyond that however, you're attributing a certain degree of extremism in wide brush strokes to a large segment of the population. Even if some nutjob protested with a sign declaring "Let's Kill Americans" I would hardly assume he represented everyone on the left.

It's kind of like my comment in that other thread about conservatives wanting Gorelick dead. How does that feel? Does that feel right to you?

If you didn't mean to make some kind of statement with it, why did you say it? Why is my sig different?

Edit: I'll pick this up in the morning, very interested in your response

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Perknose
<EM>

Originally posted by: <B>DealMonkey
</B></em>Beyond that however, you're attributing a certain degree of extremism in wide brush strokes to a large segment of the population. Even if some nutjob protested with a sign declaring "Let's Kill Americans" I would hardly assume he represented everyone on the left.

It's kind of like my comment in that other thread about conservatives wanting Gorelick dead. How does that feel? Does that feel right to you?

<STRONG>DealMonkey</strong>, stop being reasonable, <STRONG>alchemize</strong> isn't.

Interesting. When DealMonkey makes a post about "conservative death threats", he's being reasonable. When I point out support for violence on the left, I'm being unreasonable.

How is violence in response to invasion unreasonable?

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: <B>DealMonkey </B>

Beyond that however, you're attributing a certain degree of extremism in wide brush strokes to a large segment of the population. Even if some nutjob protested with a sign declaring "Let's Kill Americans" I would hardly assume he represented everyone on the left. It's kind of like my comment in that other thread about conservatives wanting Gorelick dead. How does that feel? Does that feel right to you?

DealMonkey, stop being reasonable, alchemize isn't.

Interesting. When DealMonkey makes a post about "conservative death threats", he's being reasonable. When I point out support for violence on the left, I'm being unreasonable.

DealMonkey, stop being unreasonable.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Perknose
<EM>

Originally posted by: <B>DealMonkey
</B></em>Beyond that however, you're attributing a certain degree of extremism in wide brush strokes to a large segment of the population. Even if some nutjob protested with a sign declaring "Let's Kill Americans" I would hardly assume he represented everyone on the left.

It's kind of like my comment in that other thread about conservatives wanting Gorelick dead. How does that feel? Does that feel right to you?

<STRONG>DealMonkey</strong>, stop being reasonable, <STRONG>alchemize</strong> isn't.

Interesting. When DealMonkey makes a post about "conservative death threats", he's being reasonable. When I point out support for violence on the left, I'm being unreasonable.

How is violence in response to invasion unreasonable?

I don't think violence has any reason to it. However, when an american actively, through words or deeds, supports armed action against america, then I would likely classify that person as a traitor.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Perknose
<EM>

Originally posted by: <B>DealMonkey
</B></em>Beyond that however, you're attributing a certain degree of extremism in wide brush strokes to a large segment of the population. Even if some nutjob protested with a sign declaring "Let's Kill Americans" I would hardly assume he represented everyone on the left.

It's kind of like my comment in that other thread about conservatives wanting Gorelick dead. How does that feel? Does that feel right to you?

<STRONG>DealMonkey</strong>, stop being reasonable, <STRONG>alchemize</strong> isn't.

Interesting. When DealMonkey makes a post about "conservative death threats", he's being reasonable. When I point out support for violence on the left, I'm being unreasonable.

How is violence in response to invasion unreasonable?

I don't think violence has any reason to it. However, when an american actively, through words or deeds, supports armed action against america, then I would likely classify that person as a traitor.

Not against America, against the American government. They are not the same. America was founded on great ideals, but through time, corruption, and bureaucracy the government has lost sight of those ideals.

 

[sMiLeYz]

Originally posted by: alchemize
Can you think of any conservative stereotypes, my open minded liberal?

Your call yourself conservative, post some sterotypes you would like debunked. That's what I made this thread for...

 

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[tallest1]

What You Have to Believe to Be a Good Republican
by Joe McCarthy

30 March 2004

1. You have to believe that Soviet imperialism was bad, but that US
imperialism is good.

2. You have to believe that subsidies and taxpayer financed bailouts
for multinational corporations promote free trade.

3. You have to believe that importing non-White immigrants into a
White country promotes national cohesion.

4. You have to believe that abortion is murder, unless the child is
conceived in rape or incest.

5. You have to believe that Soviet occupation of Eastern Europe was
criminal, but that Israeli occupation of Palestine is commendable.

6. You have to believe that Semitic Arabs are anti-Semites.

8. You have to believe that Bill Clinton's budgets were examples of
big government liberalism, but that George Bush's first budget, which
increased spending over any Clinton budget, was an example of
conservative frugality.

9. You have to believe that Iraq should have been attacked and
embargoed, but that China should be coddled and built up.

10. You have to believe that Osama bin Laden, a wealthy Arab who
voluntarily lives in a cave when he could be sunbathing on a beach in
Maui, hates us for our wealth and prosperity.

11. You have to believe opposing Bush's amnesty for illegal aliens is
racist, but that bombing Arabs is not.

12. You have to believe that France is a bad socialist basketcase, but
that Israel is a good socialist basketcase.

13. You have to believe that the best way to export democracy and
prosperity to a country, is to bomb that country.

14. You have to believe that the welfare state is bad -- unless the
welfare goes to corporate fatcats.

15. You have to believe that Clinton's cozying up to the Chicoms was
treason, but that the Bush family's long support for the Chicoms isn't
treason.

16. You have to believe that bin Laden is a threat to our freedom, but
that John Ashcroft is not.

17. You have to believe that Iraq, which was in violation of
approximately 16 UN resolutions should have been attacked, but that
Israel, which is in violation of over 70 UN resolutions shouldn't even
be sanctioned.

18. You have to believe that Saudi Arabia is an enemy of the United
States, but that George Bush isn't an enemy of the United States for
considering the Saudis allies.

19. Finally, you have to believe that this piece, which is critical of
the government, was written by an anti-American traitor.

(and for some reason, theres no #7)

 

[Bowfinger]

:beer: to sMiLeYz at the top, tallest1 above, and Perknose (#4) for a great set of lists.

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: tallest1
What You Have to Believe to Be a Good Republican
by Joe McCarthy

30 March 2004

1. You have to believe that Soviet imperialism was bad, but that US
imperialism is good.

2. You have to believe that subsidies and taxpayer financed bailouts
for multinational corporations promote free trade.

3. You have to believe that importing non-White immigrants into a
White country promotes national cohesion.

4. You have to believe that abortion is murder, unless the child is
conceived in rape or incest.

5. You have to believe that Soviet occupation of Eastern Europe was
criminal, but that Israeli occupation of Palestine is commendable.

6. You have to believe that Semitic Arabs are anti-Semites.

8. You have to believe that Bill Clinton's budgets were examples of
big government liberalism, but that George Bush's first budget, which
increased spending over any Clinton budget, was an example of
conservative frugality.

9. You have to believe that Iraq should have been attacked and
embargoed, but that China should be coddled and built up.

10. You have to believe that Osama bin Laden, a wealthy Arab who
voluntarily lives in a cave when he could be sunbathing on a beach in
Maui, hates us for our wealth and prosperity.

11. You have to believe opposing Bush's amnesty for illegal aliens is
racist, but that bombing Arabs is not.

12. You have to believe that France is a bad socialist basketcase, but
that Israel is a good socialist basketcase.

13. You have to believe that the best way to export democracy and
prosperity to a country, is to bomb that country.

14. You have to believe that the welfare state is bad -- unless the
welfare goes to corporate fatcats.

15. You have to believe that Clinton's cozying up to the Chicoms was
treason, but that the Bush family's long support for the Chicoms isn't
treason.

16. You have to believe that bin Laden is a threat to our freedom, but
that John Ashcroft is not.

17. You have to believe that Iraq, which was in violation of
approximately 16 UN resolutions should have been attacked, but that
Israel, which is in violation of over 70 UN resolutions shouldn't even
be sanctioned.

18. You have to believe that Saudi Arabia is an enemy of the United
States, but that George Bush isn't an enemy of the United States for
considering the Saudis allies.

19. Finally, you have to believe that this piece, which is critical of
the government, was written by an anti-American traitor.

(and for some reason, theres no #7)

Don't you think this kind of post is a little out of place in a thread topic entitled "Don't you just hate stereotypes?"

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: datalink7
Don't you think this kind of post is a little out of place in a thread topic entitled "Don't you just hate stereotypes?"

Yeah, because then someone might post something like this:

How to be a good Democrat:
1. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.

2. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach 4th-graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about sex.

3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese &amp; North Korean communists.

4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.

5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical, documented changes in the earth's climate and more affected by soccer moms driving SUVs.

6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being homosexual is natural.

7. You have to be against capital punishment but support abortion on demand.

8. You have to believe that businesses create oppression, and governments create prosperity.

9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but loony activists who have never been outside of San Francisco do.

10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.

11. You have to believe that the military, not corrupt politicians, start wars.

12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.

13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.

14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, Gen. Robert E.Lee, and Thomas Edison.

15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides are not.

16. You have to believe that Hillary Clinton is normal and really a very nice person.

17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge.

18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a liar and sex offender belonged in the White House.

19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag, transvestites, and bestiality should be constitutionally protected, and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.

20. You have to believe that illegal Democratic Party funding by the Chinese government is somehow in the best interest of the United States.

21. You have to believe that this letter is part of a vast, right-wing conspiracy.

********

But yeah this thread is about how poor some stereotypes are...and the above list isn't necessarily what ALL democrats believe...

CkG