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Don't You Just Hate Leftist Europeans

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Don't You Just Hate Leftist Europeans

Not at all. Lived among them for 10 years. However, I strongly disagree with their resentment and the "Blame America First" mentality which one obviously finds more often on the European continent than here in the States. Yet such attitudes can be expected.

Slightly OT: Oh, by the way, hope exists for Europe. I noted a poll taken in Great Britain on the British equivalent to Oprah. Among 500 callers who responded to the particular poll, 92 percent agreed that the conditions and treatment of the detainees at Guantanomo Bay is both humane and adequate.

Good suggestions Nemesis77. If I weren't so busy, I'd make add comment to your suggestions. Maybe later if the thread is still up.
 


<<

<< << Wussies On Parade

BTW, do most Canadians think this way to?

Man, I just want to barf! >>


dont you just hate morons like yourself? >>



Czar: Every single one of your 8900 something posts has been anti-American whining - and yet has been tolerated. Now one person posts a thread about petty left-wing Euro-peons like you spreading anti-American rhetoric all day and you get upset? You sir are the most pathetic P.O.S. ever to post on these forums. >>



well I suggest you read my posts next time.
 


<< Not at all. Lived among them for 10 years. However, I strongly disagree with their resentment and the "Blame America First" mentality which one obviously finds more often on the European continent than here in the States. Yet such attitudes can be expected. >>



It's only natural that such thinking is more common in Europe than it is in USA. It's easier to blame someone else. For example, I bet that "Blame Europe" mentality is more common in USA than it is in Europe.



<< Good suggestions Nemesis77. If I weren't so busy, I'd make add comment to your suggestions. Maybe later if the thread is still up. >>



please do comment if you have something to add/suggest 🙂
 


<< Wrong! there was an enormous outpour of sympathy and support in Europe fro USA after the sept. 11th attack! I find it really difficult to believe that you didn't see it! NATO gave USA it's full support, along with UK, Germany and several other Europen countries!

So, now you see few individuals that don't agree with US policy posting messages on a website. And that causes you to think that Europe sucks? I guess USA sucks too, because you have same kind of complainers among your own numbers, eh? >>



Yes wasn't it wonderful. All the europeans said how horrible it was and after we provided evidence that bin ladin did it the european nations patted us on the back and said go get them. Did you offer millitary assitance? Did you offer monetary assitance to help defray the costs? Did you offer unanimous support or critisize us for accidents? Yes your support was so great that if we have allies like you I'm glad we don't have any serious enemies *smirk*.

<<The nr. 4 is important. When you remove the cause of terrorism, you remove terrorism. And the fact is that major cause of tension between USA and muslim-world is Israel. Now, I am NOT suggesting that USA throws Israel to the wolves, but you might consider adopting a bit more balanced role in the middle-east. You still pump billions of dollars in to Israel, money that Israel doesn't really need. It's no wonder that the muslim-people there feel bitter towards USA.>>

And we also give Egypt and Jordan about 3 billion total a year as a reward for making peace. Israel does need our support, they are a democracy in a sea of theocracy. All the fighting in the middle east would end if the Muslim nations would accept that Israel exists and ALWAYS will.

Nemesis, let me let you in a little secret. America is an isolationist nation. We WANT to tell the rest of the world to go to hell and focus only on ourselves. Had it not been for european instance that we exert our power on a world scale we would STILL be a neutral and isolationist nation.
 
hahaha, are you kidding me, hey Jimbo does the gov't pay you to say this crap
-so according to you if bin laden came over and gave everyone cake, it would make up for bombing the WTC, because the US giving those people food makes up for bombing the crap out of their country, you know food almost makes up for killing innocent people, i totally agree with you there
-and bombing the crap out of them only set them back 10 minutes, wow, you know i didn't realize its ok to bomb countries that are technologically advanced, hey they don't have much, we might as well bomb what little things they do have
-and you talk about civil war and a puppet regime, well who set up the Taliban, oh wait the US did, and what do you think is going to happen now that we got rid of them, there's going to be another civil war, but you don't care because you don't have to live through it, as long as someone dies for bombing the WTC its ok, and even though the Taliban were a bunch of animals, the country was some what stable with the in control, now with other civil war on the horizon more innocent people are going to die, because thats what you wanted

it truly makes me sick how disgusting you are, what justice do you want, this is all to get bin laden right, well where is he, the gov't isn't one step closer to catching him, and do you think this is going to stop, do you think that getting rid of a couple of gov'ts is going to make everything ok, you complain about anti-war people not doing anything to stop terrorism, but what is the gov't doing, they're fighting a war they can't win, so when terrorists attack us again we bomb another country, and then they attack us again, and we bomb another country, when does it stop?
it stops when all of us are dead, because no matter how many countries we bomb there's always going to be someone out there that is going to want to bomb the crap out of us
 


<< Texmaster: You do not know me. >>



Yes I do. You're not that deep.



<< You do not posess the needed knowledge to label me as "hate filled angry liberal" or anything else for that matter. If you really knew what I am like, I doubt that you would label me as hate filled, angry or jealous. I'm none of those things. >>




I judge you from your posts. And that is message you convey time and time again,.



<< I can say good things about USA. >>



Name ONE. Name one good thing you have said about American Policy. JUST ONE.



<< But I can also say bad things about USA. Unfortunately discussions here are usually of the sort that they deal with things that I quite often disagree with US policies. You could say that you have only seen one side of my opinions when it comes to USA, the side where I disagree with US policies. There are many things that I agree with, those things are just rarely brought up in the discussions here. >>



I hear a lot of talk without any evidence. Claiming to be as diverse as you claim needs factual evidence. You claim it so produce it.
 


<< Texmaster,
Would do me one favor, never reply to any of my posts. I´v found that all your political posts directed to me or other members of this forum who disagree with you involves just you trying to make the person be below you in every way. You do not try to talk resonable about anything ever but insult everyone who disagrees with you. So from now on, please be considerate enough and not reply to my posts. >>




I know you get tired of me proving you wrong but the BS you spew sometimes HAS to be addressed.

And every time you run away from the facts you look foolish.
 


<< Czar: What's the matter? You can call me a moron but when you?re on the receiving end you cry foul. That's not acting very cultured and educated is it? >>




LOL Its the old Liberal hypocracy.

"I'm so much more enlightened than you are how DARE you question me and how DARE you demand proof of my BS!" 😀
 
I am sort of torn between irritated and entertained. If it were up to me I would seal the borders and not give a rats @ss about what the rest of the world is doing. Unfortunately most of the rest of the world is a cesspool and is up-wind of us. When the stink gets too bad, no one else will step up to the plate to drain the swamp.
We have wound up being the world?s policeman and it is not a job we want. But until someone else comes along, that does not intend to enslave the planet, we got the job. Perhaps the rest of the world would be happy if we left this job up to Communist China.
The U.S. has no more of an obligation to review our relationship with Israel (to placate a bunch of religious fanatics and racists that are going to hate us anyway), than for a crime victim to ask the criminal why they are not being nice. The poor Palestinians have repeatedly thrown away every option for peace that Israel has tried to give them. Those that think you can rationally have a dialog with hate-filled murderers are living in some fantasyland. They cannot be appeased until you are dead. What part of this does the rest of the world not understand?
We dole out money to the third world and also have to worry about feeding their population. We know how well our efforts were appreciated in Somalia when we tried to prevent the warlords from stealing the food meant to feed the starving. Where were the European intellectuals then? They were calling us imperialists and accusing us of nation building. So we left. What was the result? A half million people get to starve to death and the country descends even deeper into hell.
Now what would be more humane? Fixing the problem by restoring order and rebuilding their economy and installing a responsible government that can take care of its own people or listening to the European intellectuals and letting many more people die through inaction? If we try to set up a decent economy that employs the people we are then accused of being the evil globalization capitalists exploiting the masses.
One thing is certain, by bargaining with evil rather than opposing it, you give it more opportunity to do harm.
 


<< I am sort of torn between irritated and entertained. If it were up to me I would seal the borders and not give a rats @ss about what the rest of the world is doing. Unfortunately most of the rest of the world is a cesspool and is up-wind of us. When the stink gets too bad, no one else will step up to the plate to drain the swamp.
We have wound up being the world?s policeman and it is not a job we want. But until someone else comes along, that does not intend to enslave the planet, we got the job. Perhaps the rest of the world would be happy if we left this job up to Communist China.
The U.S. has no more of an obligation to review our relationship with Israel (to placate a bunch of religious fanatics and racists that are going to hate us anyway), than for a crime victim to ask the criminal why they are not being nice. The poor Palestinians have repeatedly thrown away every option for peace that Israel has tried to give them. Those that think you can rationally have a dialog with hate-filled murderers are living in some fantasyland. They cannot be appeased until you are dead. What part of this does the rest of the world not understand?
We dole out money to the third world and also have to worry about feeding their population. We know how well our efforts were appreciated in Somalia when we tried to prevent the warlords from stealing the food meant to feed the starving. Where were the European intellectuals then? They were calling us imperialists and accusing us of nation building. So we left. What was the result? A half million people get to starve to death and the country descends even deeper into hell.
Now what would be more humane? Fixing the problem by restoring order and rebuilding their economy and installing a responsible government that can take care of its own people or listening to the European intellectuals and letting many more people die through inaction? If we try to set up a decent economy that employs the people we are then accused of being the evil globalization capitalists exploiting the masses.
One thing is certain, by bargaining with evil rather than opposing it, you give it more opportunity to do harm. >>




European Liberals remind me of whiney children who didn't get enough for their birthday.

The are critical of us when we give the most, and are critical when we defend ourselves. Their jealously is almost overwhelming of our success and their arrogance and snobbish attitude on social policy towards people who don't agree with them is laughable.

 


<< Fixing the problem by restoring order and rebuilding their economy and installing a responsible government that can take care of its own people >>



when have we ever done this, every gov't the US sets up is a joke, they end up falling apart and the country is in worse shape after, you are the one living in a fantasyland,
i ask you this, whats worse doing nothing, or doing the wrong thing, because when it comes to foreign policy the US does things according to how they want it to work, not how the people of that particular country wants it to work, you have this idea that the us is some knight in shining armor saving people all over the world, what a joke
 


<< when have we ever done this, every gov't the US sets up is a joke, they end up falling apart and the country is in worse shape after, you are the one living in a fantasyland, >>



My God you're Dumb.

Germany. Japan.

You loose 😀

 


<< I know you get tired of me proving you wrong but the BS you spew sometimes HAS to be addressed.

And every time you run away from the facts you look foolish. >>


I get tired of you flaming me just for the very reason that you dont like me or my views. You hardly ever give anything else than a LOL, some insults and a smilie.

I provide point that the Afghan situation could go the way Aelus said it could go and in some way its already happening, I provided links that Afghan Warlords have gone "solo", exactly what Aelus was afraid of. Currently the people in Afghanistan are going through probably the worst starvation phase in their history. Parents are selling their children for food and they are eating weed because there is nothing else to eat there.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020201/hl_nm/afghan_1


<< "In any given year in the past decade," continued Belmonte, "some 250,000 children under 5 have died. The current rate of severe malnutrition is now six times higher than then." >>


Not looking good now is it?
 
bigdog1218: Slow down a little bit so I can catch up with your inaccurate perception of reality. Then it is off to bed with you.



<< hahaha, are you kidding me, hey Jimbo does the gov't pay you to say this crap
-so according to you if bin laden came over and gave everyone cake, it would make up for bombing the WTC, because the US giving those people food makes up for bombing the crap out of their country, you know food almost makes up for killing innocent people, i totally agree with you there. >>



We were giving them food aid well before September 11. We bombed them because they were harboring a mass murderer of Americans.



<< -and bombing the crap out of them only set them back 10 minutes, wow, you know i didn't realize its ok to bomb countries that are technologically advanced, hey they don't have much, we might as well bomb what little things they do have >>



This was a reply to the poster that claimed we set them back 100 years.



<< -and you talk about civil war and a puppet regime, well who set up the Taliban, oh wait the US did, and what do you think is going to happen now that we got rid of them, there's going to be another civil war, but you don't care because you don't have to live through it, as long as someone dies for bombing the WTC its ok, and even though the Taliban were a bunch of animals, the country was some what stable with the in control, now with other civil war on the horizon more innocent people are going to die, because thats what you wanted >>



We did not set up the Taliban, that was done by the Pakistanis. Besides more innocent people die if we do nothing.



<< -it truly makes me sick how disgusting you are, what justice do you want, this is all to get bin laden right, well where is he, the gov't isn't one step closer to catching him, and do you think this is going to stop, do you think that getting rid of a couple of gov'ts is going to make everything ok, you complain about anti-war people not doing anything to stop terrorism, but what is the gov't doing, they're fighting a war they can't win, so when terrorists attack us again we bomb another country, and then they attack us again, and we bomb another country, when does it stop?
it stops when all of us are dead, because no matter how many countries we bomb there's always going to be someone out there that is going to want to bomb the crap out of us >>



We have seriously impaired his ability to organize and finance his campaign of terror against the United States. You ask where it stops? It stops when Bin Laden and his kind and those that follow him and house him are dead. I really don?t care if anybody wants to bomb us as long as they don?t actually do it. If more acts of terrorism are committed against my country we will seek out the guilty and stop them. It should be a fairly easy concept for you to understand.



<< -when have we ever done this, every gov't the US sets up is a joke, they end up falling apart and the country is in worse shape after, you are the one living in a fantasyland,
i ask you this, whats worse doing nothing, or doing the wrong thing, because when it comes to foreign policy the US does things according to how they want it to work, not how the people of that particular country wants it to work, you have this idea that the us is some knight in shining armor saving people all over the world, what a joke >>



Yeah smart boy, tell that to Western Europe. Can you say Martial Plan?
 


<< I know you get tired of me proving you wrong but the BS you spew sometimes HAS to be addressed.

And every time you run away from the facts you look foolish.
I get tired of you flaming me just for the very reason that you dont like me or my views. You hardly ever give anything else than a LOL, some insults and a smilie. >>



I'm not the one who quoted TALIBAN figures for casualities in posting an article soley because you thought it would hurt the US.

You did that little buddy. And that blunder on your part is only one of many.



<< I provide point that the Afghan situation could go the way Aelus said it could go and in some way its already happening, I provided links that Afghan Warlords have gone "solo", exactly what Aelus was afraid of. Currently the people in Afghanistan are going through probably the worst starvation phase in their history. Parents are selling their children for food and they are eating weed because there is nothing else to eat there. >>



Provide all that crap you want. Who said the Afgan world would turn around in less than six months after 3,000 Americans were slaughtered?

Name one American or ANYONE who made that claim.

I know you don't think highly of public executions being gone and women going back to school in this country but considering how SHORT the timeframe has been, its a pretty big accomplishment.

Your demands for the impossible in the timeframe we are in is just another example of your hatred for America and doing anything you can to put us down.

The war in Afganistan isn't even over yet you sit on the sidelines with the rest of the Liberals in Europe and JUDGE the US?

Germany wasn't rebuilt in 3 months after World war II and neither was Japan.

How dare you sit on the sidelines and demand perfection in less than 6 months.

Improvement has been made, DRASTIC improvement and your bigotry towards the US just shines through every time you make the pathetic demands for the impossible.
 
<<when have we ever done this, every gov't the US sets up is a joke, they end up falling apart and the country is in worse shape after, you are the one living in a fantasyland>>

That is soooooooo true... well unless you count Japan and Germany, the second and third wealthiest nations on the planet. But yeah we suck at it!

Someone hasn't made it past 1945 in World History yet. 😛
 
Well, I´ll play along for a while, I´ll react to your flames.



<< I'm not the one who quoted TALIBAN figures for casualities in posting an article soley because you thought it would hurt the US.

You did that little buddy. And that blunder on your part is only one of many. >>


That "taliban figures" you allways refer to is a inspection made by a US professor who took casualty reports from all sides about civilian casualties in Afghanistan, sometimes the most reliable source was the Taliban because there were no other figures around but most of the time the numbers came from the civilians themselves not from the Taliban.



<< Provide all that crap you want. Who said the Afgan world would turn around in less than six months after 3,000 Americans were slaughtered?

Name one American or ANYONE who made that claim. >>


Aelus voiced his concernes about the future of Afghanistan.
--i'm pretty curious how afghanistan will look like in 20 years, but currently, it doesn't look very good, there's a lot of pretty words in kabul, but when you look at the country, it's back where it was before the taliban, every region is governed with an iron hand by the local warlord. It looks like it will only be a matter of time before another civil war emerges.--
I gave him links to news reports reporting that Afghan warlords have decided to go solo, areas being reigned by "local warlords" right now.



<< I know you don't thionk highly of public executions being gone and women going back to school in this country but considering how SHORT the timeframe has been, its a pretty big accomplishment, >>


I agree, certain things have gone better.



<< But your demands for the impossible in the timeframe we are in is just another example of your hatred for America and doing anything you can to put us down.

The war in Afganistan isn't even over yet you sit on the sidelines with the rest of the Liberals in Europe and JUDGE the US? >>


I´v never said that things should be perfect there right now, what I´v said is that things do not look good and there is a great risk of things getting back like they were before the Taliban were defeated.



<< Germany wasn't rebuilt in 3 months after World war II and neither was Japan.

How dare you sit on the sidelines and demand perfection in less than 6 months.

Improvement has been made, DRASTIC improvement and your bigotry towards the US just shines through every time you make the pathetic demands for the impossible. >>


I´v never demaned or even requested perfection after such a short time, I expect a halt in previous problems after 6 months and some results after 12 months. To build that country up will take decades.
 


<< Well, I´ll play along for a while, I´ll react to your flames. >>



You always do 😀



<< That "taliban figures" you allways refer to is a inspection made by a US professor who took casualty reports from all sides about civilian casualties in Afghanistan, sometimes the most reliable source was the Taliban >>



ROFLOL!!!! THINK for once in your life Czar, THINK about what you just said. The MOST RELIABLE sources are the Taliban?? LOL!!! Oh man, you are dumber than I thought. These guys are professional LIARS and you back them? Oh well, you did like Clinton so I can't say I'm suprised.



<< because there were no other figures around but most of the time the numbers came from the civilians themselves not from the Taliban. >>



Just because the only people in charge are LIARS doesn't mean you accept their word little buddy! You WAIT until someone HONEST can go in. But if your quick to bash the US, why not right Czar?



<< Name one American or ANYONE who made that claim. >>


Aelus voiced his concernes about the future of Afghanistan.
--i'm pretty curious how afghanistan will look like in 20 years, but currently, it doesn't look very good, there's a lot of pretty words in kabul, but when you look at the country, it's back where it was before the taliban, every region is governed with an iron hand by the local warlord. It looks like it will only be a matter of time before another civil war emerges.--
I gave him links to news reports reporting that Afghan warlords have decided to go solo, areas being reigned by "local warlords" right now.[/i] >>




And you also judged the US' efforts in Afganistan by tacking on Not looking good now is it?

The sad thing is you are probably only vaguely aware of your enormous display of bias here.



<< I agree, certain things have gone better. >>



LOL and you are STILL trying to belittle the accomplishments! You couldn't just say "yes those are good things" you just HAD to say "certain things" leaving that open door for US flaming. LOL



<< I´v never said that things should be perfect there right now, what I´v said is that things do not look good and there is a great risk of things getting back like they were before the Taliban were defeated. >>



And I'm saying judging the effort when control of the entire country is not even 2 months old just SCREAMS bias on your part to judge in the shortest amout of time possible and demand the most. You must have given your mother hell growing up.



<< I´v never demaned or even requested perfection after such a short time, >>



Yet you JUDGE the US. Every time you point out a problem in Afganistan, do you follow it up with a complement? OH HELL NO.

In fact I haven't even ONCE see you vonuntairily give the US credit for anything GOOD happening in Afganistan.

But as always Czar, I give you the chance to prove me wrong. But I'm willing to bet anything you can't find squat as usual.



<< I expect a halt in previous problems after 6 months and some results after 12 months. To build that country up will take decades. >>



It hasn't BEEN six months you MORON! The aniversary of September 11th isn't even for 6 more days!

This is EXACTLY the kind of ignorant bias you are infamous for Czar.
 


<< You always do 😀 >>


sometimes it just fun 🙂



<< ROFLOL!!!! THINK for once in your life Czar, THINK about what you just said. The MOST RELIABLE sources are the Taliban?? LOL!!! Oh man, you are dumber than I thought. These guys are professional LIARS and you back them? Oh well, you did like Clinton so I can't say I'm suprised. >>


Sometimes they were the most reliable source, that is what I wrote, I did not write "The MOST RELIABLE sources are the Taliban". The reason for that is thet they were the only ones giving accurate descriptions of the events. The taliban sometimes lie yes, but sometimes the US gov also does that, people do that.
Didnt actually like clinton during his time in the whitehouse but after Bush moved in I´m starting to see how good Clinton realy was compared to Bush 😛



<< Just because the only people in charge are LIARS doesn't mean you accept their word little buddy! You WAIT until someone HONEST can go in. But if your quick to bash the US, why not right Czar? >>


Read these words yourself, apply them with any government in the world, including your saintly Bush gov.



<< And you also judged the US' efforts in Afganistan by tacking on Not looking good now is it?

The sad thing is you are probably only vaguely aware of your enormous display of bias here. >>


By saying not looking good now I meant that the future of afghanistan is not bright in light of the current situation there. I know my own bias, my bias is that I hate when people die of the hands of another person and i despise those who support it. Now... do you think yourself as biased?



<< LOL and you are STILL trying to belittle the accomplishments! You couldn't just say "yes those are good things" you just HAD to say "certain things" leaving that open door for US flaming. LOL >>


The good things happning now in afghanistan that there are now no public executions on football fields, women are allowed to dress freely, the religous zealot government is gone. What do you want me to say, that everything in afghanistan is better now after the US helped the NA drive away the Taliban? wouldnt that be like... seeing only a tiny tiny part of the current situation there? sure, be blind and see only what you want to see.



<< And I'm saying judging the effort when control of the entire country is not even 2 months old just SCREAMS bias on your part to judge in the shortest amout of time possible and demand the most. You must have given your mother hell growing up. >>


you are saying like that I think that since there hasnt been much progress we should just quit supporting the rebuild of afghanistan? I´m not... I never have and I never will. Things take time and like I said in my prevous post, it will take decades to rebuild afghanistan.



<< Yet you JUDGE the US. Every time you point out a problem in Afganistan, do you follow it up with a complement? OH HELL NO.

In fact I haven't even ONCE see you vonuntairily give the US credit for anything GOOD happening in Afganistan. >>


I ofcorse question actions taken by the US in afghanistan, everyone should do that because there things happening there that are anything but good.
What good can I say about the US in Afghanistan, the Taliban are gone and bin ladens terrorist network has been sevearly damaged.



<< But as always Czar, I give you the chance to prove me wrong. But I'm willing to bet anything you can't find squat as usual. >>


Same as you always do, never prove anything wrong or right and just flame and argue for the sake of arguing.



<< It hasn't BEEN six months you MORON! The aniversary of September 11th isn't even for 6 more days!

This is EXACTLY the kind of ignorant bias you are infamous for Czar. >>


well duhh, so that exactly 6 months after sept11 I am going to say "well, hasnt anything happened yet?" well, the number of months I gave up was just an example, it could happen after 5 months it could happen after 7 months, but after something around 6 monthis there should be some change towards the better.

but right now I´m going to sleep, have to wake up early tomorrow.
just one thing, the next time you reply to my posts please try to make the content of your post more meaningful than the normal "LOL😀 you are wrong moron LOL😀" crap you normaly post.
 


<< Sometimes they were the most reliable source, that is what I wrote, I did not write "The MOST RELIABLE sources are the Taliban". >>



You can't run away from your statement Czar. What makes them Reliable? Their lying or their lying? LOL



<< The reason for that is thet they were the only ones giving accurate descriptions of the events. >>



To believe that you need TRUST in what they say. I'll ask you again, what makes them trustworthy?



<< The taliban sometimes lie yes, but sometimes the US gov also does that, people do that. >>



Name one proven thing America has lied about in this war Czar. Just one.

Now name one casuality report offered by the Taliban that was proven accurate. JUST ONE CZAR. Dont run away, ANSWER IT.



<< Didnt actually like clinton during his time in the whitehouse but after Bush moved in I´m starting to see how good Clinton realy was compared to Bush 😛 >>



LOL That just shows your own stupidity when it comes to American politics.



<< Read these words yourself, apply them with any government in the world, including your saintly Bush gov. >>



So no one is trustworthy is that it Czar? Well if thats true, why do you trust the TALIBAN figures? Stumbled right into that one! LOL



<< By saying not looking good now I meant that the future of afghanistan is not bright in light of the current situation there. >>



And you are basing this off what? Your own hopeful feelings that America will fail in its mission? LOL



<< I know my own bias, my bias is that I hate when people die of the hands of another person and i despise those who support it. Now... do you think yourself as biased? >>



I AM HUGLY biased as an American and a conservative! I freely admit that. Your problem is you are so wrapped up in your snobbish socialistic attitude, you can't even recognize your own bias and hatred for Americans and especailly conservatives.



<< The good things happning now in afghanistan that there are now no public executions on football fields, women are allowed to dress freely, the religous zealot government is gone. What do you want me to say, that everything in afghanistan is better now after the US helped the NA drive away the Taliban? wouldnt that be like... seeing only a tiny tiny part of the current situation there? sure, be blind and see only what you want to see. >>



I want you just ONCE to say something nice about American accomplishment without it having to be drug out of you. Thats what I want.

I see you dodged my challenge to provide precisly that. LOL What a shocker.



<< you are saying like that I think that since there hasnt been much progress we should just quit supporting the rebuild of afghanistan? >>



I'm saying you are quick to judge and do not acknoledge the good that has come out of this without having to be hounded for it.

Your bias lies in your judgemental behavor to a still very new situation demanding more progress than anyone can provide given the timeframe. In short, you are biased and unfair in your judgement.



<< I´m not... I never have and I never will. Things take time and like I said in my prevous post, it will take decades to rebuild afghanistan. >>



once AGAIN, Yet you JUDGE the US. Every time you point out a problem in Afganistan, do you follow it up with a complement? OH HELL NO.



<< I ofcorse question actions taken by the US in afghanistan, everyone should do that because there things happening there that are anything but good. >>



Once again, you blame the US for EVERYTHING that happens in that country thats bad. Anything good is overlooked. The hatred you have for Americans is unbelievable.



<< What good can I say about the US in Afghanistan, the Taliban are gone and bin ladens terrorist network has been sevearly damaged. >>




And women can go to school, and public executions are gone... are you really against women being free and people being killed for pleasure?



<< But as always Czar, I give you the chance to prove me wrong. But I'm willing to bet anything you can't find squat as usual. >>


Same as you always do, never prove anything wrong or right and just flame and argue for the sake of arguing.[/i] >>



I've proven once again you dont have the balls to back up your own BS with fact.



<< well duhh, so that exactly 6 months after sept11 I am going to say "well, hasnt anything happened yet?" well, the number of months I gave up was just an example, it could happen after 5 months it could happen after 7 months, but after something around 6 monthis there should be some change towards the better. >>



Your quote I expect a halt in previous problems after 6 months and some results after 12 months.

LOL "I expect" You expect? And what do you base this on? Who has EVER tackled ANYTHING even REMOTELY similar before for you to get a figure? LOL

And by the way MORON, September 11th was the ATTACK not the beginning of the war with the Taliban in Afganistan. LOL Once again proving your stupidity has no limits.



<< just one thing, the next time you reply to my posts please try to make the content of your post more meaningful than the normal "LOL😀 you are wrong moron LOL😀" crap you normaly post. >>



HAHAHA I can only reply to the crap you post that way. Its too ignorant and foolish to give it any more respect than that.

You NEVER reply with evidence, just your opinion. Your expectations are based off of nothing but your own moronic opinion and outlandish demands, not in reality.

In short Czar, you are a self rightous bigot towards Americans and until you can back up what you claim with FACTS not from the Taliban, you will always be that.
 
The United States is better than Communist China because in China they can't even criticize the government.
 


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<< Texmaster: You do not know me. >>



Yes I do. You're not that deep. >>



Sorry to rain on your parade, but you do NOT. You know what I have said in the forums, but do you REALLY think that gives you accurate idea what I'm like? It has made you aware of my thoughts in things that I disagree with US policies, that's all.



<< You do not posess the needed knowledge to label me as "hate filled angry liberal" or anything else for that matter. If you really knew what I am like, I doubt that you would label me as hate filled, angry or jealous. I'm none of those things. >>



I judge you from your posts. And that is message you convey time and time again,.[/i] >>



Because those threads that contrast USA with rest of the world seem to be prevalent here. Yes, I disagree with some US policies, but I also agree on many things with USA. Unfortunately there havent' really been threads where I could express them.



<< I can say good things about USA. >>



Name ONE. Name one good thing you have said about American Policy. JUST ONE.[/i] >>



Do you have problems reading? I said that I agree with USa on many things, but unfortunately discussions here are usually about things that I disagree with!



<< But I can also say bad things about USA. Unfortunately discussions here are usually of the sort that they deal with things that I quite often disagree with US policies. You could say that you have only seen one side of my opinions when it comes to USA, the side where I disagree with US policies. There are many things that I agree with, those things are just rarely brought up in the discussions here. >>



I hear a lot of talk without any evidence. Claiming to be as diverse as you claim needs factual evidence. You claim it so produce it.[/i] >>



You want a list of things that I love in USA? OK, here it goes (not a complete list):

1. I love that you stood up against communism (and won)
2. I love the fact that you keep on pushing the envelope in several technologies (space-research, genetics etc.)
3. I love the products made/designed by american companies (CPU's for example).
4. I love that you really give your people the freedom of being masters of their future. Citizens can more easily start up business for example.
5. I would like Finland to adopt some of the things USA has. For example, lower taxation. I In fact use USA as an example of how to do things right when I discuss these things.
6. I love the diversity of USA.

And what about US Policies?

1. I agree when USA tries to push free and open trade
2. I agree with the war against terrorism
3. I agree when USA pushes for political freedom
4. I agree when USA pushes for human rights
5. I agree with war against drugs

Happy now?
 


<< Sorry to rain on your parade, but you do NOT. You know what I have said in the forums, but do you REALLY think that gives you accurate idea what I'm like? It has made you aware of my thoughts in things that I disagree with US policies, that's all. >>



So you lie here? Your posts say a great deal about your personality wether you believe it or not.



<< Because those threads that contrast USA with rest of the world seem to be prevalent here. Yes, I disagree with some US policies, but I also agree on many things with USA. Unfortunately there havent' really been threads where I could express them. >>



Then why don't you start some? Thats another look into your personality.



<< Do you have problems reading? I said that I agree with USa on many things, but unfortunately discussions here are usually about things that I disagree with! >>



Yet you can't even name ONE when asked.




<< You want a list of things that I love in USA? OK, here it goes (not a complete list):

1. I love that you stood up against communism (and won)
2. I love the fact that you keep on pushing the envelope in several technologies (space-research, genetics etc.)
3. I love the products made/designed by american companies (CPU's for example).
4. I love that you really give your people the freedom of being masters of their future. Citizens can more easily start up business for example.
5. I would like Finland to adopt some of the things USA has. For example, lower taxation. I In fact use USA as an example of how to do things right when I discuss these things.
6. I love the diversity of USA. >>



Good. Keep going.



<< And what about US Policies?

1. I agree when USA tries to push free and open trade
2. I agree with the war against terrorism
3. I agree when USA pushes for political freedom
4. I agree when USA pushes for human rights
5. I agree with war against drugs

Happy now? >>



No, because in order to learn these things about you, I had to force the issue. I shouldn't have to do that. You are very open with your opposition to American policy but to hear anything you agree with, I had to push. Thats very sad.

Just because someone doesn't start a thread you agree with doesn't mean you can't start one.
 


<< No, because in order to learn these things about you, I had to force the issue. I shouldn't have to do that. You are very open with your opposition to American policy but to hear anything you agree with, I had to push. Thats very sad. >>



Get real Tex, because he didn't volunteer information about things he likes about the US that makes it sad? Man you just can't resist attacking the person and not the message can you? This is a fvcking message board on the internet, he isn't your friend this isn't a chat in your living room, frankly he was right to tell you that you don't know the first bloody thing about him. Hell you knew me so well you accused ME of being european. Maybe you should stop making judgements about what people do and don't believe. The world isn't all black and white like you want to believe.

Judge not lest ye be judged.
 
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