Don't you hate stupid/lazy teammates in school projects? I sure do. Update: Stupid teammate emails me half-rate garbage!

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: SouthPaW1227
where are all you guys (responsible) when it comes to finding group members?

yeah we were. Unfortunately i didn't know anyone in my class (i'm a part-time night student) and i just chose the 4 nearest people to me.

 

[torpid]

Unfortuantely this is one of the most valuable aspects of the education system. You will encounter this exact thing, although more often due to incompetence than laziness, in almost any job once you graduate. It's ok to try to work things out with the prof in school, but at a job it won't do at all if the project isn't finished, no matter the reason. Learning how to handle this and pepare for it ahead of time takes skill, patience, and willingness to do all the work.

 

[Phokus]

Bah, updated my first post. Stupid girl emailed me 'her part' of the project, and it looks like crap. She even skipped a part of her portion.

 

[Phokus]

Update 2: wow, she just emailed me asking help on the part that she forgot to do. I told her to ask help from someone else (who happens to be knowledgeable on the subject, but is probably very busy). Haha, what a procrastinating ditz.

 

[ggnl]

meh. I'm going through the exact same situation right now, just like every other group project Ive ever done. Out of 5 group members only 1 is sending me material worth turning in. I'm haveing to rewrite everything for the other group members.

I think its given that 1-2 group members will end up doing 90% of the average group project.

 

[CRXican]

Are you talking high school groups? That's not too bad but there's always a slacker.

Group projects in college should be outlawed. Professors should know how crazy our schedules are and the last thing we have time to so is cordinate a meeting of 4 people at one time.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: CRXican
Are you talking high school groups? That's not too bad but there's always a slacker.

Group projects in college should be outlawed. Professors should know how crazy our schedules are and the last thing we have time to so is cordinate a meeting of 4 people at one time.

yeah it's a college project.

 

[DrPizza]

As a teacher, I've been told over and over that I should assign group-work because "they'll be working on teams when they enter the real world."

I'll be happy to - the day I can fire the students who don't pull their weight for their teams. Otherwise, I refuse to give a "group grade" on projects. I'm all too aware of situations like this. Labs: work as a group gathering data (difficult at best to slack off on gathering data when it takes 8 hands and your group has 6) Write-ups are individual.

Edit: if they do their labs together, and have identical lab write-ups, that's not a problem.. If one does the write-up and the other just copies it... well, then person one has no reason to complain - they don't have to share their write-up. Besides... person 2 will get theirs when they can't perform on the test.

 

[randomlinh]

you're lucky as hell your professor is willing to grade separately. If it were me... a group project is a group project. You gotta learn to deal w/ your weaknesses. Granted, since two of your teammates dropped out (i'm assuming out of the class), then if no replacements were made, I'd be more lenient.

i should add, this is how a lot of my professors are/were... as well w/ my friends. there is no individual grades... so i guess i'm used to it. One of my co-workers had to rewrite her groups 15 page report since her groupmates were incompetent.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: lnguyen
you're lucky as hell your professor is willing to grade separately. If it were me... a group project is a group project. You gotta learn to deal w/ your weaknesses. Granted, since two of your teammates dropped out (i'm assuming out of the class), then if no replacements were made, I'd be more lenient.

So i guess the students in your class are screwed if they have slackers in their group. That sounds fair. :roll:

 

[Anonemous]

I had the same thing happen in college as well. I remember partnering up with this girl in college on a couple projects for intro to programming. It was obvious she didn't know how to program so I felt pity and tried to help her. After a few assignments she still hadn't learned anything, the breaking point came when I asked her just to design a simple menu for a project in Turbo C using ASCII. A freaking menu, and she still had trouble programming/typing that out. She didn't do any work, so on the last few assignments I did them by myself. She apparently moved on and mooched off someone else and still graduated an engineer. It makes me shudder that there are engineers/professionals out there who didn't do any work and graduated...

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: lnguyen
you're lucky as hell your professor is willing to grade separately. If it were me... a group project is a group project. You gotta learn to deal w/ your weaknesses. Granted, since two of your teammates dropped out (i'm assuming out of the class), then if no replacements were made, I'd be more lenient.

So i guess the students in your class are screwed if they have slackers in their group. That sounds fair. :roll:

like I said: I'll give group grades on projects the day I'm allowed to fire students for not doing their work. That's how it works in the business community, (ideally), right?

 

[BriGy86]

group projects are nice if you know your group members are responsible

the only time i've run into problems is when the teacher has the great idea of assigning members (then there isn't even a way to escape the dumb people)

or if there isn't anyone i know in the class (all the "popular" people pick their groups right away and leave the rejects for me it seems)