Don't you hate it when people 'grunt'??

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waggy

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when i was younger and worked out all the time very few p;eople would grunt. seemed the only time someone did was the hardcore lifters.

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: waggy
when i was younger and worked out all the time very few p;eople would grunt. seemed the only time someone did was the hardcore lifters.

Because the "hardcore" lifters knew that intensity was everything, and therefore got the most out of their sets.
 

Philippine Mango

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

You don't grunt for 50lbs, you should really just not be grunting at all, completely unnecessary. You can lift weights with out grunts, trust me, its quite amazing to see people there lifting weights and not making bowel movements or sounding like they're pushing out a 5Lb turd.

Bullsh!t. Show me an advanced body builder or power lifter who who doesn't grunt at LEAST on squating and deadlifts.

Thats why I said earlier in the thread that its more understandable for doing stuff like that but completely unnecessary for ****** like a dumbbell press.... I still think you can get away with doing squats in excess of 300lbs with out grunting...
 

K1052

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Habitual weight droppers are more annoying. Especially people who let a stack slam back together when I am in close proximity.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: waggy
when i was younger and worked out all the time very few p;eople would grunt. seemed the only time someone did was the hardcore lifters.

Because the "hardcore" lifters knew that intensity was everything, and therefore got the most out of their sets.

I can understand someone who is a body builder doingit. never understood why someone just trying to stay in shape needs to sound like they are trying to give birth.

I always got a darn good workout and never sounded like that.

granted i was not trying for mass (lightweight wrestler max 125lbs) but strength and endurance.
 

Philippine Mango

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Originally posted by: Amused
The key to productive weight lifting is intensity. You can minimize everything (sets, reps, frequency) if you give each set maximum intensity. When doing so one can often grunt a bit, especially on heavy compound lifts like presses, squats and deadlifts.

If someone is working hard enough to grunt a bit, then why bug them? At least they are giving it everything they've got and getting the most out of their workout... unlike the stick boys and chubbies who come in and count to 10 each set while still having some left with weights that are far too light.

Wth, whats that suppose to mean? How do you know they have any strength left?? And how do you know the weights they use are far too light? You'd be surprised how weak some people truely are, then again, those with little motivation might have an overall lower body strength either because they're weaker in the first place or they have no motivation, kinda a chicken or the egg type thing (if you get what I'm saying).
 

Philippine Mango

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Originally posted by: waggy
when i was younger and worked out all the time very few p;eople would grunt. seemed the only time someone did was the hardcore lifters.

Maybe now everybody is a poseur?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

You don't grunt for 50lbs, you should really just not be grunting at all, completely unnecessary. You can lift weights with out grunts, trust me, its quite amazing to see people there lifting weights and not making bowel movements or sounding like they're pushing out a 5Lb turd.

Bullsh!t. Show me an advanced body builder or power lifter who who doesn't grunt at LEAST on squating and deadlifts.

Thats why I said earlier in the thread that its more understandable for doing stuff like that but completely unnecessary for ****** like a dumbbell press.... I still think you can get away with doing squats in excess of 300lbs with out grunting...

If the weight is challenging to that person and he is giving the set everything he has, then grunting is understandable.

And dumbbell presses can be very challenging. They are a compound exercise. I grunt when I dumbbell bench. I grunt on most compound lifts because I'm giving it everything I've got.

If you're not, you're wasting a lot of energy and time.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: waggy
when i was younger and worked out all the time very few p;eople would grunt. seemed the only time someone did was the hardcore lifters.

Because the "hardcore" lifters knew that intensity was everything, and therefore got the most out of their sets.

I work out intensely, but I don't grunt. I can understand a little grunting if you strain, but some people flat out yell and scream like Rambo while doing their sets.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: Amused
The key to productive weight lifting is intensity. You can minimize everything (sets, reps, frequency) if you give each set maximum intensity. When doing so one can often grunt a bit, especially on heavy compound lifts like presses, squats and deadlifts.

If someone is working hard enough to grunt a bit, then why bug them? At least they are giving it everything they've got and getting the most out of their workout... unlike the stick boys and chubbies who come in and count to 10 each set while still having some left with weights that are far too light.

Wth, whats that suppose to mean? How do you know they have any strength left??

It's easy to see when someone doesn't struggle with their last rep.
 

Philippine Mango

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

You don't grunt for 50lbs, you should really just not be grunting at all, completely unnecessary. You can lift weights with out grunts, trust me, its quite amazing to see people there lifting weights and not making bowel movements or sounding like they're pushing out a 5Lb turd.

Bullsh!t. Show me an advanced body builder or power lifter who who doesn't grunt at LEAST on squating and deadlifts.

Thats why I said earlier in the thread that its more understandable for doing stuff like that but completely unnecessary for ****** like a dumbbell press.... I still think you can get away with doing squats in excess of 300lbs with out grunting...

If the weight is challenging to that person and he is giving the set everything he has, then grunting is understandable.

And dumbbell presses can be very challenging. They are a compound exercise. I grunt when I dumbbell bench. I grunt on most compound lifts because I'm giving it everything I've got.

If you're not, you're wasting a lot of energy and time.

Ok, yeah sure, I guess all of those times I've built up strength with out bothering others was a complete waste.. :roll:
 

Philippine Mango

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: Amused
The key to productive weight lifting is intensity. You can minimize everything (sets, reps, frequency) if you give each set maximum intensity. When doing so one can often grunt a bit, especially on heavy compound lifts like presses, squats and deadlifts.

If someone is working hard enough to grunt a bit, then why bug them? At least they are giving it everything they've got and getting the most out of their workout... unlike the stick boys and chubbies who come in and count to 10 each set while still having some left with weights that are far too light.

Wth, whats that suppose to mean? How do you know they have any strength left??

It's easy to see when someone doesn't struggle with their last rep.
After their last rep, what do they do from then on?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: K1052
Habitual weight droppers are more annoying. Especially people who let a stack slam back together when I am in close proximity.

Agreed. With the exception of deadlifts and other olympic lifts, dropping weights is just stupid and lazy. Not to mention it can break dumbells.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: waggy
when i was younger and worked out all the time very few p;eople would grunt. seemed the only time someone did was the hardcore lifters.

Maybe now everybody is a poseur?

thats what i always thought.

even now when i hit the gym most older guys who are just trying to stay in shape don't grunt. every now and then you get a high school or college kid come in and sound like he is giving birth.

though there is one guy who is in amazing shape who is kinda loud (he is also like 55years old heh).
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: Amused
The key to productive weight lifting is intensity. You can minimize everything (sets, reps, frequency) if you give each set maximum intensity. When doing so one can often grunt a bit, especially on heavy compound lifts like presses, squats and deadlifts.

If someone is working hard enough to grunt a bit, then why bug them? At least they are giving it everything they've got and getting the most out of their workout... unlike the stick boys and chubbies who come in and count to 10 each set while still having some left with weights that are far too light.

Wth, whats that suppose to mean? How do you know they have any strength left??

It's easy to see when someone doesn't struggle with their last rep.
After their last rep, what do they do from then on?

They rest then do another set.

The only truely effective way to lift for strength and size is to lift to failure, or at least very near failure.
 

Philippine Mango

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Originally posted by: Amused
It's easy to see when someone doesn't struggle with their last rep.


Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: K1052
Habitual weight droppers are more annoying. Especially people who let a stack slam back together when I am in close proximity.

Agreed. With the exception of deadlifts and other olympic lifts, dropping weights is just stupid and lazy. Not to mention it can break dumbells.

Maybe because they've given it all they've got on their last set and can't control the weight when they put it down?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

You don't grunt for 50lbs, you should really just not be grunting at all, completely unnecessary. You can lift weights with out grunts, trust me, its quite amazing to see people there lifting weights and not making bowel movements or sounding like they're pushing out a 5Lb turd.

Bullsh!t. Show me an advanced body builder or power lifter who who doesn't grunt at LEAST on squating and deadlifts.

Thats why I said earlier in the thread that its more understandable for doing stuff like that but completely unnecessary for ****** like a dumbbell press.... I still think you can get away with doing squats in excess of 300lbs with out grunting...

If the weight is challenging to that person and he is giving the set everything he has, then grunting is understandable.

And dumbbell presses can be very challenging. They are a compound exercise. I grunt when I dumbbell bench. I grunt on most compound lifts because I'm giving it everything I've got.

If you're not, you're wasting a lot of energy and time.

Ok, yeah sure, I guess all of those times I've built up strength with out bothering others was a complete waste.. :roll:

If you're bothered by grunters go to a fancy foo-foo gym.

Anyone can build up a little strength without lifting smart. But only those who lift smart will reach their potential.

Lifting smart means maximum intensity. Maximum intensity in many people means a little grunting.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: Amused
It's easy to see when someone doesn't struggle with their last rep.


Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: K1052
Habitual weight droppers are more annoying. Especially people who let a stack slam back together when I am in close proximity.

Agreed. With the exception of deadlifts and other olympic lifts, dropping weights is just stupid and lazy. Not to mention it can break dumbells.

Maybe because they've given it all they've got on their last set and can't control the weight when they put it down?

Nope, but nice try at being a smart ass.
 

Philippine Mango

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

You don't grunt for 50lbs, you should really just not be grunting at all, completely unnecessary. You can lift weights with out grunts, trust me, its quite amazing to see people there lifting weights and not making bowel movements or sounding like they're pushing out a 5Lb turd.

Bullsh!t. Show me an advanced body builder or power lifter who who doesn't grunt at LEAST on squating and deadlifts.

You can still give all you got with out grunting... I think most of the tools who grunt do it because they think they're cool. Most of the well built guys I see there are much older than the 20 somethings I 'encountered' and from what I recall don't grunt either..I guess you can argue they're just maintaining their strength but whatever..

Thats why I said earlier in the thread that its more understandable for doing stuff like that but completely unnecessary for ****** like a dumbbell press.... I still think you can get away with doing squats in excess of 300lbs with out grunting...

If the weight is challenging to that person and he is giving the set everything he has, then grunting is understandable.

And dumbbell presses can be very challenging. They are a compound exercise. I grunt when I dumbbell bench. I grunt on most compound lifts because I'm giving it everything I've got.

If you're not, you're wasting a lot of energy and time.

Ok, yeah sure, I guess all of those times I've built up strength with out bothering others was a complete waste.. :roll:

If you're bothered by grunters go to a fancy foo-foo gym.

Anyone can build up a little strength without lifting smart. But only those who lift smart will reach their potential.

Lifting smart means maximum intensity. Maximum intensity in many people means a little grunting.
You can still 'give it all you got' with out grunting...
 

Zap

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I sometimes grunt when sitting down or getting up from the couch. I thought that was just a sign of getting old?
 

91TTZ

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I usually grunt loudly when I do anything which I think should carry significance.

For instance, I was making copies at work the other day and as the last sheet exited the machine, I let out a glorious display of manliness to let everyone know that the copying process was done, and I copied them successfully.
 

jman19

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: Amused
It's easy to see when someone doesn't struggle with their last rep.


Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: K1052
Habitual weight droppers are more annoying. Especially people who let a stack slam back together when I am in close proximity.

Agreed. With the exception of deadlifts and other olympic lifts, dropping weights is just stupid and lazy. Not to mention it can break dumbells.

Maybe because they've given it all they've got on their last set and can't control the weight when they put it down?

Nope, but nice try at being a smart ass.

Mango has run out of arguments, so now it's time to be sarcastic.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: Amused
It's easy to see when someone doesn't struggle with their last rep.


Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: K1052
Habitual weight droppers are more annoying. Especially people who let a stack slam back together when I am in close proximity.

Agreed. With the exception of deadlifts and other olympic lifts, dropping weights is just stupid and lazy. Not to mention it can break dumbells.

Maybe because they've given it all they've got on their last set and can't control the weight when they put it down?

Nope, but nice try at being a smart ass.

Mango has run out of arguments, so now it's time to be sarcastic.

I see that he also quotes without responding.