dont you hate it when DOS users say this?
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everyone uses a GUI, be it MS windows*, mac or a windows manager for *nix or whatever else, anyone that's not running one is running a server and doesn't need one. 
pillage2001
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All the GUI is is a visual stimulus for using your mind and remembering the proper commands.
That is all the code behind the GUI does; provide you with appropriate options, accept your entries, verify them and pass them onto the guts of the application.
A command line prompt will take you entries, verify them and the pass them onto the guts of the application.
So what is the difference?
Visual stimulas.
Just like reading a book vs. going to a movie.
A GUI may look impressive but it can also rot you mind.
It will generate more code and overhead.
That is all the code behind the GUI does; provide you with appropriate options, accept your entries, verify them and pass them onto the guts of the application.
A command line prompt will take you entries, verify them and the pass them onto the guts of the application.
So what is the difference?
Visual stimulas.
Just like reading a book vs. going to a movie.
A GUI may look impressive but it can also rot you mind.
It will generate more code and overhead.
a GUI doesn't just make it easier to remember stuff, it can also save a lot of time as opposed to typing a ton of long commands, double clicking on an icon. At least I think so
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<< everyone uses a GUI, >>
Over half of my daily work entails NOT working with a gui.
*Edit - and it's not on a server. >>
what's your daily work? i was referring to end users
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<< oh so I guess we should use our 10ghz processor to execute the dir command at lightspeed? >>
Processor speed increased as a requirement for faster computational HP and because of sluggish interfaces. GUI takes up alot of your CPU. Set up an Explorer shortcut to a directory and see how much CPU time it takes. Then do the same with a DIR command fed into command.com.
You get the same information out faster with the command line.
Try to Run a Windows 3.11 on a systems and perform the same timing task as described above. Then run it on the same system using a Win9x or XP derivitive. See how much more the GUI chews up.
GUI can be good to see multiple relationships on the screen and for other uses regarding graphics. However, it can also be a handicap and a distraction for the developer and user.
PS: Where did you get such a fast system and what can you effectively do with it that you could not 3 years ago.
sure a GUI may use some CPU cycles
but who cares,
most systems have more than enough to do what we need
and the those handy little icons save us lots of time
i didn't really think this would turn into a discussion
i was joking around with the 'dont you hate it when a ____ users says this?" threads
but who cares,
most systems have more than enough to do what we need
and the those handy little icons save us lots of time
i didn't really think this would turn into a discussion
i was joking around with the 'dont you hate it when a ____ users says this?" threads
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johngute
Intel/AMD/Motorola and MS/Sun/Apple love the attitude that waste of CPU cycles is fine.
1)
That will then ensourage the S/W houses to created bloated/in-efficient code which will end up taxing your existing CPU to act like cold molasses.
2)
Then you will have to get a stronger CPU/System to no longer be sluggish and get some spare CPU cycles again.
3) Loop back to #1
My point is that a GUI can be helpful, but it has been turned into a complete crutch by most of the S/W community with respect to the end user. The end user is now willing to pay (through the nose) for the convience of having everything visually in front of them and not comnpletely understanding how the tool works.
Intel/AMD/Motorola and MS/Sun/Apple love the attitude that waste of CPU cycles is fine.
1)
That will then ensourage the S/W houses to created bloated/in-efficient code which will end up taxing your existing CPU to act like cold molasses.
2)
Then you will have to get a stronger CPU/System to no longer be sluggish and get some spare CPU cycles again.
3) Loop back to #1
My point is that a GUI can be helpful, but it has been turned into a complete crutch by most of the S/W community with respect to the end user. The end user is now willing to pay (through the nose) for the convience of having everything visually in front of them and not comnpletely understanding how the tool works.
the simpler your tools the more efficient your work. Its that easy.
In todays business world you dont always have the luxury of time, tasks have to get done. So no matter how bloated some software is, if it makes your life easier and helps you finish your task faster then nobody cares whether it eats up too much cpu cycles or not.
In todays business world you dont always have the luxury of time, tasks have to get done. So no matter how bloated some software is, if it makes your life easier and helps you finish your task faster then nobody cares whether it eats up too much cpu cycles or not.
BoberFett
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I use a GUI when appropriate, and a prompt the same way. Some things are faster at a prompt.
Given 100 files in a directory, whats faster?
ren *.txt *.doc
Or select each file individually, hit F2, delete "txt" and type "doc"
Moving, renaming, things like that which are done to multiple files can often times be accomplished faster through a prompt than a standard GUI interface.
Given 100 files in a directory, whats faster?
ren *.txt *.doc
Or select each file individually, hit F2, delete "txt" and type "doc"
Moving, renaming, things like that which are done to multiple files can often times be accomplished faster through a prompt than a standard GUI interface.
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