Don't tase me bro!

[compuwiz1]

Another man dies

Amnesty International has reported that, since June 2001, more than 150 people have died in the United States after being subdued with a stun gun. The organization has called for police departments to suspend use of the devices pending study of their possible risks.

So, almost half of the nations law enforcement agencies use tasers. IMO, that's too much potential for abuse. I wonder how many of those 150 who were killed actually needed such draconian action?

 

[dug777]

Just copy the poms and give your cops asps

 

[OverVolt]

Electrical tazer can mess up electrical signals in the heart.

Who'da thunked that!

 

[TecHNooB]

Originally posted by: OverVolt
Electrical tazer can mess up electrical signals in the heart.

Who'da thunked that!

Nice catch overvolt

 

[Xavier434]

Here's a thought. Cooperate with the cops and you can 100% eliminate the risk of death from being tased. Still, I approve the studies of the risks here. The original intent was to give cops a self defense/control device other than their guns and batons which are effective and do less harm.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Xavier434
Here's a thought. Cooperate with the cops and you can 100% eliminate the risk of death from being tased. Still, I approve the studies of the risks here. The original intent was to give cops a self defense/control device other than their guns and batons which are effective and do less harm.

Would be nice if it was true.

 

[imported_LoKe]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Another man dies

Amnesty International has reported that, since June 2001, more than 150 people have died in the United States after being subdued with a stun gun. The organization has called for police departments to suspend use of the devices pending study of their possible risks.

So, almost half of the nations law enforcement agencies use tasers. IMO, that's too much potential for abuse. I wonder how many of those 150 who were killed actually needed such draconian action?

150 deaths in 6 years? That sounds pretty good, really. How many people are killed with a cops primary weapon now versus 2001?

Potential of abuse...if the possibility of abuse with a taser is a consern to you, why the fuck are we giving these cops badges, let alone guns?

 

[jandrews]

Originally posted by: Xavier434
Here's a thought. Cooperate with the cops and you can 100% eliminate the risk of death from being tased. Still, I approve the studies of the risks here. The original intent was to give cops a self defense/control device other than their guns and batons which are effective and do less harm.

If the police were honest truthful and fufilled all their duties as assigned and the public believed the justice system was about justice I am sure there would be less need for such matters. People dont trust police, cant blame them.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

I don't care. if you are not a criminal you needn't worry.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
I don't care. if you are not a criminal you needn't worry.

ahahahah

What about the guy who was a passenger in a speeding car that got pulled over. The officer ordered the passenger out and on the ground. Then told him to get up. The guy gets up and the officer shoots him in the chest.

The officer later says he meant to say "don't get up"

Wasn't a criminal and did exactly what he was told.

 

[Molondo]

A man traveled with his mom to Canada for the first time. They just flew in from Poland and somehow they got separated. Unfortunately the man didn't speak any English and he ended up panicking. Four cops surrounded him and tried to calm him down. They tasered him and he died right there.

 

[sandorski]

Too many people are being Tazed for too little justified reason.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Another man dies

Amnesty International has reported that, since June 2001, more than 150 people have died in the United States after being subdued with a stun gun. The organization has called for police departments to suspend use of the devices pending study of their possible risks.

So, almost half of the nations law enforcement agencies use tasers. IMO, that's too much potential for abuse. I wonder how many of those 150 who were killed actually needed such draconian action?

150 deaths in 6 years? That sounds pretty good, really. How many people are killed with a cops primary weapon now versus 2001?

Potential of abuse...if the possibility of abuse with a taser is a consern to you, why the fuck are we giving these cops badges, let alone guns?

Here's the thing: Tasers are NOT being used as an alternative to shooting someone, they are being used to subdue anyone who in any way resists. Furthermore, anyone who has any medical condition dealing with electrical signals (anything involving the heart and/or nervous system) is at very high risk of dying.

If you really think that there are not a large number of bad cops (though not necessarily a large percentage), you are a very naive person.

 

[imported_LoKe]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Here's the thing: Tasers are NOT being used as an alternative to shooting someone, they are being used to subdue anyone who in any way resists. Furthermore, anyone who has any medical condition dealing with electrical signals (anything involving the heart and/or nervous system) is at very high risk of dying.

If you really think that there are not a large number of bad cops (though not necessarily a large percentage), you are a very naive person.

It pains me to think that you'd rather give cops the permission to beat someone, or hell, shoot someone who's resisting or somehow not co-operating. We all know there are bad cops, but personally, I'd rather they use their tasers than their guns.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
I don't care. if you are not a criminal you needn't worry.

ahahahah

What about the guy who was a passenger in a speeding car that got pulled over. The officer ordered the passenger out and on the ground. Then told him to get up. The guy gets up and the officer shoots him in the chest.

The officer later says he meant to say "don't get up"

Wasn't a criminal and did exactly what he was told.

Associating with criminals is just as bad....as a passenger he was an accessory to the crime. Next your going to tell me he was headed to church or to the soup kitchen to volunteer. :roll:

 

[imported_LoKe]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Associating with criminals is just as bad....as a passenger he was an accessory to the crime. Next your going to tell me he was headed to church or to the soup kitchen to volunteer. :roll:

If I'm in a speeding car with a criminal, you won't catch me jumping out. That doesn't make me a criminal.

And in his example, the passenger did what he was told and was still tased.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Here's the thing: Tasers are NOT being used as an alternative to shooting someone, they are being used to subdue anyone who in any way resists. Furthermore, anyone who has any medical condition dealing with electrical signals (anything involving the heart and/or nervous system) is at very high risk of dying.

If you really think that there are not a large number of bad cops (though not necessarily a large percentage), you are a very naive person.

It pains me to think that you'd rather give cops the permission to beat someone, or hell, shoot someone who's resisting or somehow not co-operating. We all know there are bad cops, but personally, I'd rather they use their tasers than their guns.

Look at the John Kerry Tazing, Cops would have never used a Gun in that situation. They wouldn't even draw their Guns in such a situation. There are numerous other video taped examples where Perps were down and pretty much subdued, except they continued to struggle, before they were Tazed. That kind of situation crosses the line from Justifiable Use to Police Brutality at worst or just plain Laziness at best.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Associating with criminals is just as bad....as a passenger he was an accessory to the crime. Next your going to tell me he was headed to church or to the soup kitchen to volunteer. :roll:

If I'm in a speeding car with a criminal, you won't catch me jumping out. That doesn't make me a criminal.

And in his example, the passenger did what he was told and was still tased.

I was just in the same car as the guy that was fleeing from the bank he just robbed. i was not involved!!!! yeah ok pal.

 

[imported_LoKe]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
I was just in the same car as the guy that was fleeing from the bank he just robbed. i was not involved!!!! yeah ok pal.

You're fucking stupid. Seriously.

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
What about the guy who was a passenger in a speeding car that got pulled over.

Oh, my bad, robbing a bank and speeding are the same thing. Sorry, sir!

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
I was just in the same car as the guy that was fleeing from the bank he just robbed. i was not involved!!!! yeah ok pal.

You're fucking stupid. Seriously.

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
What about the guy who was a passenger in a speeding car that got pulled over.

Oh, my bad, robbing a bank and speeding are the same thing. Sorry, sir!

Not the same but your argument doesn't hold up...oh it was just speeding so he is not an accessory. Where do you draw the line?

 

[imported_LoKe]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Not the same but your argument doesn't hold up...oh it was just speeding so he is not an accessory. Where do you draw the line?

I draw the line when the passenger is an accessory. Seriously, I have to ask again, are you fucking stupid?

 

[CPA]

OP, please explain how this is draconian.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Not the same but your argument doesn't hold up...oh it was just speeding so he is not an accessory. Where do you draw the line?

I draw the line when the passenger is an accessory. Seriously, I have to ask again, are you fucking stupid?

we can agree to disagree. But the cop obviously was on my side in this instance. He got tazed or shot.

 

[imported_LoKe]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Not the same but your argument doesn't hold up...oh it was just speeding so he is not an accessory. Where do you draw the line?

I draw the line when the passenger is an accessory. Seriously, I have to ask again, are you fucking stupid?

we can agree to disagree. But the cop obviously was on my side in this instance. He got tazed or shot.

Uh, no, he's not on your side. The cop was a dumbass and told the passenger to do something then tased him for doing it because he screwed up his words. I'm wondering if you even read the post.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Not the same but your argument doesn't hold up...oh it was just speeding so he is not an accessory. Where do you draw the line?

I draw the line when the passenger is an accessory. Seriously, I have to ask again, are you fucking stupid?

we can agree to disagree. But the cop obviously was on my side in this instance. He got tazed or shot.

Uh, no, he's not on your side. The cop was a dumbass and told the passenger to do something then tased him for doing it because he screwed up his words. I'm wondering if you even read the post.

In the end it would be a non issue if the guy hadn't CHOSEN to be in that situation.