Don't steal a hacker's computer

[OVerLoRDI]

That is awesome. Not a waste of 20 minutes.

 

[alkemyst]

While he did gain unauthorized access to her email account, calling him a hacker doesn't explain exactly what he did or how sophisticated his attack was. Saying "John Doe robbed the local 7-11 last night. He is currently in custody waiting for a bond hearing" doesn't explain exactly what his actions were or how much he took. Using the term "hacker" to describe the guy who got into Sarah Palin's email is misleading and used in a very generic definition. The biggest crime the guy committed was not getting into her email, but deleting the evidence of doing it.

subjective vs objective.

 

[JD50]

Most *nix people i know have macs for the same reasons I do (all the power, no CDE nonsense).


I had gentoo on a Sun Ultra10 box for the longest time... worked well aside from the fact that running portage upgrades every 6 months would fuck things up. I've had Ubuntu 8 or 9something on my tablet in Gradschool, dualbooting with vista. It was ok, not that much different compared to other linux distros I've used in past.

Well I can see why you've had a bad experience. Like I said, you should try a new distro if you're interested in seeing how much better it is now.

 

[halik]

Well I can see why you've had a bad experience. Like I said, you should try a new distro if you're interested in seeing how much better it is now.

It wasn't a bad experience, it worked just fine... but that's it. Buddy of mine has Ubuntu 10 on his laptop, again couldn't see any difference UI-wise. Gentoo, Ubuntu and all the distros do the same exact thing underneath and the UI is contained by the window manager.

There will never be more than limited adoption of that stuff on the desktop, because the whole freedom/competition argument makes for bad and inconsistent ui. If you have a million different approaches to solving interface problem, you will never have a consistent solution.

Just out of curiosity, what happens when you drag a file from your desktop into an open bash terminal?

 

[JD50]

It wasn't a bad experience, it worked just fine... but that's it. Buddy of mine has Ubuntu 10 on his laptop, again couldn't see any difference UI-wise. Gentoo, Ubuntu and all the distros do the same exact thing underneath and the UI is contained by the window manager.

There will never be more than limited adoption of that stuff on the desktop, because the whole freedom/competition argument makes for bad and inconsistent ui. If you have a million different approaches to solving interface problem, you will never have a consistent solution.

Just out of curiosity, what happens when you drag a file from your desktop into an open bash terminal?

I don't really know what you're looking for in the UI then, because I haven't had any problems with the last few releases of Fedora. My wife even uses Fedora on her netbook and she's less technical than the typical Mac user I doubt that Linux will ever get a big following on the desktop, but it's much less fragmented than it used to be. I'm not a big fan of Ubuntu but they've helped out a lot with that.

There is a HUGE difference between Gentoo and distros like Fedora and Ubuntu, especially when it comes to ease of use...

When I drag a file from my desktop into a terminal window it copies the absolute path of the file into my terminal window.

 

[halik]

I don't really know what you're looking for in the UI then, because I haven't had any problems with the last few releases of Fedora. My wife even uses Fedora on her netbook and she's less technical than the typical Mac user I doubt that Linux will ever get a big following on the desktop, but it's much less fragmented than it used to be. I'm not a big fan of Ubuntu but they've helped out a lot with that.

There is a HUGE difference between Gentoo and distros like Fedora and Ubuntu, especially when it comes to ease of use...

When I drag a file from my desktop into a terminal window it copies the absolute path of the file into my terminal window.

Honestly, it's inconsistency and bad human factors is are my main issues. People write apps as they see fit for themselves and then you end up with hodgepodge interfaces (GIMP is a prime example). The main reason why apps like firefox got popular is because bulk of the UI is nailed down and standardized - so you end up with all the powerful tools w/o dealing with hackneed interface.

Gentoo is the same as Ubunutu in terms of usability - there's a higher learning curve to setting it up, but once you have it set, the same UI issues arise.

I'm glad they got the drag to terminal thing finally fixed, OSX had it since 10.0 IIRC
Drag and drop must still have issues between GTK and QT apps and what not, right?

Incidentally, I'm having the same issues with android - it definitely does more than my old iphone, but god some of the UI is retarded.

 

[tcsenter]

Why not have a data plan for your phone instead or something? Can use it when you're actually out and about and then as a back up.

Because I don't have a smart phone and my mobile plan is no-frills basic service for $70.00 per month for two phones.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

Ever since the "unix" came with a pretty interface and dumb down so yuppies can click their ways around.

That was Apple that slapped on a pretty GUI on top of "unix".

 

[beach2nd]

That is awesome. Not a waste of 20 minutes.

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