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In addition, the post regarding hitting pedestrians in the crosswalk. Having been involved in both a suit (and of course now in the insurance business) regarding ped knockdowns...often times the pedestrian should be waiting for the cars to pass, regardless if they have right of way or not.

Sometimes its not so much the matter of being right or wrong when crossing the street, but rather when a 3000 pound car is coming, you should get the fvck out of the way.
 
Originally posted by: slick230
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: slick230
Originally posted by: iliopsoas
Originally posted by: slick230
Originally posted by: froke
Originally posted by: virtueixi
The guy was partly at fault for Jwalking. The PT ran the light. The SUV was the only one not at fault.


If I was driving the SUV, i surely wouldn't have entered the intersection if a ped was in the cross walk. It's the responsibility of every driver to make sure that the intersection is safe before entering.

You know, I feel bad that the guy got all kinds of fvcked up, but if he was crossing against the signal then he got what was coming to him. I can't tell you how many times a day I see these 2 legged fvcking animals walking around thinking they can just run out in the street anytime they feel like it and not face the consequences. I have often felt like taggin a few of these jerkofss with my car, not really to injure them, but maybe clip them with a mirror and leave a nice bruise. Maybe then they'd think before just stepping in the way of moving vehicles expecting them to yield the right of way.

Damn. How did you get a license? You should brush up on traffic laws.

I got it in a Cracker-Jack box, like everyone else. And you should brush up on STFU laws.
Hopefully someone will come along and clip your ass off.
In a car or with a chainsaw. I don't think it matters.

STFU before I punch you in your anus, bitch.

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Maybe you should STFU before I cancel your admission ticket to our forums.

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Oh my what a big e-penis!

:roll:
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: iliopsoas
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: iliopsoas
You guys should brush up on your driver's ed.

1. The pedestrian is absolutely NOT at fault. He was in a crosswalk. That's a long intersection. How many times have you crossed an intersection and the signal turns on you?

2. The SUV may partially be at fault. A car must wait for the pedestrian to clear the intersection before proceeding. So this SUV should NOT have been in the intersection at all. He committed a violation; however, I'm not quite sure if the SUV driver should be blamed for hitting the pedestrian. (Perhaps he was making a left turn? I didn't bother to check carefully)

3. Dumbass PT Cruiser drive definitely at fault.

1. The light had been red for 28 seconds, the guy definitely started walking across when he wasn't supposed to. See below.

2. As Vic pointed out, the Subaru was in the left lane and would not have hit the guy if it had been able to keep going straight. Even if she was on course to hit the guy, she would have been able to stop if her car hadn't been flipped. That sort of thing makes braking difficult. So even though the pedestrian was crossing when he shouldn't have, I don't put much or any blame on him or the Subaru driver.

3. Yes. 🙂


On point #2, the SUV driver should have waited for the intersection to clear of all cars and pedestrians before proceeding. It doesn't matter whether he thinks that he can avoid the pedestrian.

Now that's just being unrealistic. That may be the way it works in your idealistic world, but not in real life.


It's the law. Read up.
 
Originally posted by: froke
That pedestrian should thank the driver of the PT. If anything, the PT redirected a lot of the kinetic energy of the SUV. That guy was going to get mauled by the SUV flying through the intersection anyway. Should teach him a lesson about crossing the street at appropriate times...


No, the SUV was in the left lane, the guy was already in the right lane. The SUV would have went right past. The PT knocked the SUV into the right lane, smashing the guy.
 
Originally posted by: iliopsoas
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: iliopsoas
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: iliopsoas
You guys should brush up on your driver's ed.

1. The pedestrian is absolutely NOT at fault. He was in a crosswalk. That's a long intersection. How many times have you crossed an intersection and the signal turns on you?

2. The SUV may partially be at fault. A car must wait for the pedestrian to clear the intersection before proceeding. So this SUV should NOT have been in the intersection at all. He committed a violation; however, I'm not quite sure if the SUV driver should be blamed for hitting the pedestrian. (Perhaps he was making a left turn? I didn't bother to check carefully)

3. Dumbass PT Cruiser drive definitely at fault.

1. The light had been red for 28 seconds, the guy definitely started walking across when he wasn't supposed to. See below.

2. As Vic pointed out, the Subaru was in the left lane and would not have hit the guy if it had been able to keep going straight. Even if she was on course to hit the guy, she would have been able to stop if her car hadn't been flipped. That sort of thing makes braking difficult. So even though the pedestrian was crossing when he shouldn't have, I don't put much or any blame on him or the Subaru driver.

3. Yes. 🙂


On point #2, the SUV driver should have waited for the intersection to clear of all cars and pedestrians before proceeding. It doesn't matter whether he thinks that he can avoid the pedestrian.

Now that's just being unrealistic. That may be the way it works in your idealistic world, but not in real life.


It's the law. Read up.

From the NJ driver's manual:

Motorists are required to yield to pedestrians who have the right of way within a crosswalk and are crossing at an intersection.

Doesn't say you can't enter the intersection until it is totally clear... In fact, you could interpret it as meaning you DON'T have to yeild to pedestrians who are crossing illegally. Suppose the pedestrian hadn't even reached the yellow line yet, would you expect the Subaru driver to stop at the line until the guy gets all the way across? That's just absurd. Stop trying to blame the victim (Subaru driver).
 
IM NOT READING THROUGH ALL THIS, BUT heres a update if theres not any on 1-3 pages.



Car goes airborne, lands on pedestrian in intersection
DAYTON | Doctors revived a man Sunday just hours after medics pronounced him dead on the scene of a car crash, police officials said.

Dayton Police Sgt. Charles Hurley said Scott Tegtmeyer was walking in the intersection of Third Street and Edwin C. Moses Boulevard at 12:40 p.m. when a Chrysler PT Cruiser ran a red light, struck a Subaru sports utility vehicle and sent it into the air.

The Subaru landed upside down on Tegtmeyer and dragged him several feet across the intersection, Hurley said. Tegtmeyer, bloodied and surrounded by shattered glass, was pronounced dead on the scene, but he suddenly started breathing while in transit with paramedics. By 3 p.m., doctors had fully resuscitated him.

On Sunday evening, he was in the Miami Valley Hospital Intensive Care Unit.

Neither of the female drivers of the vehicles involved were carrying passengers. The woman driving the Subaru was transported to Miami Valley Hospital. Information on the condition of the driver of the PT Cruiser was not available. Hurley said police talked to eight witnesses. He also said it is possible a camera mounted high above the intersection captured the crash.

Dayton police reconstructionists, trained at putting clues together after crashes, were on the scene with digital cameras and measuring devices. The flipped Subaru showed noticeable crash damage on the left body panel. Ten yards away, the customized P.T. Cruiser with a "AAA" sticker on the back of its tinted windows showed damage to its front end.
 
So, one pedestrian crosses the street. Intersecting his way came a SUV, which is hit by a PTCruiser going parallel with the pedestrian. Who's at fault?
Should we start a "cars are safer that SUVs" thread?

Calin
 
Originally posted by: Aharami
OMFG!!

i think the pedestrian is dead. i think he landed under the upside down car.

and the driver of the PT cruiser should be imprisoned for life without parole!!! :|:|

poor pedestrian


can someone find out what happened to the pedestrian? is this new or old?

Still though, the pedestrian did not have the right of way. He still has to obey the traffic signals. It almost looks like the the PT cruiser did not hit the SUV, it would have plowed into the pedestrian anyway. Its kind of hard to see which lane the SUV was in. But it was coming pretty fast and the pedestrain was just strolling along.
 
Originally posted by: Calin
So, one pedestrian crosses the street. Intersecting his way came a SUV, which is hit by a PTCruiser going parallel with the pedestrian. Who's at fault?
Should we start a "cars are safer that SUVs" thread?

Calin

Uh... huh? You left out some details there, and neither vehicle was an SUV. Nice try though.
 
Saw the vid on another forum last week. I blame the pedestrian and obviously the driver of the PT crusier. If the Subaru had a green light that person should not have been crossing. I know the law usually says pedestrians have the right of way but that doesn't mean they can do whatever they want. I know that when I cross the street I'm looking back and forth constantly so as not to get hit. This asshat pedestrian was taking a nice, slow stroll across a very wide street at what looks like a rather busy intesection. It's quite simple, MOVE YOUR FvCKING ASS ACROSS THE STREET A LITTLE FASTER!!!
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Calin
So, one pedestrian crosses the street. Intersecting his way came a SUV, which is hit by a PTCruiser going parallel with the pedestrian. Who's at fault?
Should we start a "cars are safer that SUVs" thread?

Calin

Uh... huh? You left out some details there, and neither vehicle was an SUV. Nice try though.

I don't know the definition of a SUV. Maybe you can enlighten me?
Hmmm...it doesn't look much more like a SUV than the PTCruiser. My mistake, sorry

Calin
 
Originally posted by: Calin
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Calin
So, one pedestrian crosses the street. Intersecting his way came a SUV, which is hit by a PTCruiser going parallel with the pedestrian. Who's at fault?
Should we start a "cars are safer that SUVs" thread?

Calin

Uh... huh? You left out some details there, and neither vehicle was an SUV. Nice try though.

I don't know the definition of a SUV. Maybe you can enlighten me?
Hmmm...it doesn't look much more like a SUV than the PTCruiser. My mistake, sorry

Calin

Main Entry: sport-util·i·ty vehicle
Pronunciation: 'spOrt-yü-'ti-l&-tE-, 'sport-
Function: noun
: a rugged automotive vehicle similar to a station wagon but built on a light-truck chassis

I would consider neither a Subaru Forester or a PT Cruiser to be "rugged" so I guess neither is an SUV. But then, there are a lot of vehicles explicitly classified as SUVs that I would not consider "rugged."
 
Ban who? Unless the clip is being hosted on OP's account I don't think you can blame him. Or me 😉 Should propably edit it out tho 😀
 
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