Dont have Children!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rahvin]

<< rahvin!!!! Bravo!!!!!!! Well done man, it brings me great joy to watch the "intellectually elite" (LOL as if.....) self-destruct out in the open like you've just done. >>



lol, welcome to my fan club. Did I bash your buddy Tex too many times?

syadmin,

Glad to see you are going to try at custody a second time. My recommendation to you is to get signed afidavidits <sp> from all these people that are telling you to get custody of your daughter. Prepare it all in advance and make sure the ex never has a clue you are going to try to go for custody, you want to blindside her with this. You should under no circumstances talk to your ex in any manner that you wouldn't want played back for the court on a tape. If you can go into court with a dozen letters from people in positions that know (social workers, police officers, etc) that you should have custody then you will be in a MUCH better situation. All those letters are statements about your ex's lack of character and lack of parenting ability. Also if you can afford it, on one of your visitations before you file (after you have a lawyer) take your daughter for a psych evaluation and get him to write a letter telling the court the child is being damaged permanently by being with her mother. You should also make the court aware that the ex is living with a convicted? child molester.

The first thing you should keep in mind is that you will have to accept that your ex will get visitation and still have parental rights. Don't be vindictive. The court is only considered in what is best for the child, they don't care what either of the parents think or feel. Your medical conditions will count against you, anything that will take your time from your daughter will count against you. Above all, if you can, get the judge to interview the child in private, alone.

 

[rgwalt]

<< <<I cant afford, or in no way can come up with the $5000 that a lawyer wants to represent my daughter and myself in a custody battle. >>

I think this statement says buckets about how much value your daughter has to you. *shrug* I don't consider $5000 that much money, something you could work off in a few months with a second or third job, might have to sacrifice some sleep and fun but I guess your daughter isn't worth the sacrifice on your part is she? >>



rahvin-

This kind of comment from an elite? I would have expected much, much more. You are SUCH a TOOL for saying something like this. Try living off of a $20K or $30K a year salary while paying car payments, house payments, bills, child support (to the tune of $6K a year) etc. Holding down two jobs is REALLY tough, let alone three. Have you ever tried to hold down two full-time jobs? Have you worked over 12 hours a day, 7 days a week. It catches up with you fast. You get to the point where you don't have any time to take care of anything else in life. Have you ever done this? Have you been in this situation? If not, then shut up and piss off.

:disgust::frown::|:disgust::frown::|:disgust::frown::|

Ryan

 

[aimn]

rahvin.......I do have most of the stuff that you mentioned. As a matter of fact, the last time I tried for custody 6 yrs ago, my lawyer wouldnt take any more documentation from me! I gave her a stack a foot high, no exaggerating here either. We had her criminal history, I had the Sheriff testify that I called him at home (he is a friend of mine) at 3am upset that my ex had shaken my 2 yr old baby so bad that I thought she was going to kill her. I had to physically remove my daughter from my ex's arms.
As far as my daughter not being worth $5000.........dont go there. I know that there is a way to get it, I am working 60 hours a week and trying to build websites on the side. I can get it, there is nothing that I cant do, I just need to figure out how.

 

[Yeeny]

sysadmin: I looked over your other posts, and see where you mentioned CPS being called. But what about the police, for a convicted child molestor living with a young girl. Wouldn't he be violating some law, or his probation by doing so? Maybe you could at least have him removed from the home on those grounds, and that would definitely give you more leeway in court I would think.

BTW, if you already did this and I missed it, I am sorry, I just didn't see you mention the police anywhere.

 

[Corn]

<< Did I bash your buddy Tex too many times? >>



Tex is a moron. Most of what he posts makes me cringe--you know, it's that "guilt by association" deal......but....he escapes my radar for the most part because it's really not his fault that he is who he is. My question is, *cough*, if you're so smart, what's your excuse?





<< This kind of comment from an elite? >>



rgwalt, that's "intellectual elite", don't you forget it!!!!

 

[aimn]

He actually pleaded down the charge of raping his 12 year old daughter. I am not sure to what he pleaded too, but he doesnt have to register as a level II OR III sex offender. The police, child protection, social worker and her teacher have been made aware of the danger that she is in with this perv. I stay in close contact with her teacher and social worker at school in hopes that they will have some pull as far as getting my daughter out of the dangerous situation that she is in. I live 80 miles from her so I keep in touch through email and the phone.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Visitation isn't a given, most people consider that it's granted if you pay child support, but that's not the case, it's considered to be in the best intrests of the child to spend time with the noncustodial parent frequently, however, if the court feel sthat it's not in the child's best intrest, visitation can be limited, supervised or suspended, while the child support obligation remains intact.

For instance:

My ex hasn't seen her daughter for 1.2 years now, last time she came to the states, the family court put her in jail, and we'll do it again if she shows up again, for non payment of child support. Currently, due to my ex's behavior, specifically when she tried to kidnap our daughter in 99', she's prohibited from visitation outside the state of TX. (she'd come to the states 2X unannounced, and requested visitation, while refusing to give me the child's passport. I refused visitation & got slapped with 29 seperate contempt charges. They were all dismissed when the truth came out, and the judge placed the visitation restrictions into the orders, and I was given the passport)

Current wife has an ex & a child with same, we presented to the courts with a psychologist that'd interviewed the child extensively & testified on her behalf that he was doing drugs in front of her (she was 6 & able to describe a bong). The judge would have prob left the fool alone, but he (the ex) testified that he didn't do drugs, and then tested positive when the courts administered a urinalysis @ our expense. Visitation was reduced to 1st, 3rd & 5th Saturdays, and no more overnights.

We also caught him arears over $15k in child support, which is now taken directly out of his check, inculding the delinquint amount.

I've become an armchair lawer of family courts in TX, and I would have just as soon passed on all of it if I could have avoided it. My acid test for family court is whether or not I could face the child in 10-20 years & live with myself with what I'd done or hadn't done...

 

[Nemesis77]

I hope there's still justice in the world, so that sysadmins situation gets fixed ASAP. No-one should live with a burden such as this. I can't even begin to understand the feeling of helplessness and stress this thing must cause to you.

 

[Kev]

sysadmin: i did some searching on google for something that might potentially help.

i came across this:

Mark H. Gardner, attorney

His volunteer work seems right up your alley:



<< Fathers Resource Center
Minneapolis, Minnesota.
Volunteer attorney 1995-present.

Provided pro bono consultation to private parties in Minnesota family law.

Hennepin County Bar Association Volunteer Lawyers Network.

Volunteer attorney 1995-present.

Represented selected indigent clients in Minnesota family law cases involving children.
>>



This is one of the organizations this lawyer was a member of: HCBA

Who knows, maybe this he could help...

 

[rahvin]

<<rahvin.......I do have most of the stuff that you mentioned. As a matter of fact, the last time I tried for custody 6 yrs ago, my lawyer wouldnt take any more documentation from me! I gave her a stack a foot high, no exaggerating here either. We had her criminal history, I had the Sheriff testify that I called him at home (he is a friend of mine) at 3am upset that my ex had shaken my 2 yr old baby so bad that I thought she was going to kill her. I had to physically remove my daughter from my ex's arms.
As far as my daughter not being worth $5000.........dont go there. I know that there is a way to get it, I am working 60 hours a week and trying to build websites on the side. I can get it, there is nothing that I cant do, I just need to figure out how.>>

If I can make a suggestion. If you have so much documentation you may be overwhelming your attorney with information. For a low fee (I know $5k doesn't sound low to you but it is to lawyers) they aren't going to put a lot of work into a case. You need categorize and file the stuff in easy to find folders. I would get signed "friend of the court" letters from all the cops and social service agents etc that have contact with your daughter (these people shouldn't be friends or have a personal connection to you). But above all, organize the information so the lawyer can go through it quickly and efficiently. (if you haven't already). Place yourself in the position of a judge and assume that you can't believe anything presented by either parent because it could be false. Then think what is best for the child and what you as a judge would want to see as evidence to support what is best for the child. You need official documentaion of her negligence.

rgwalt and corn,

I realize of course that you may be slow. My comments were intended to inspire action, people have to be shocked into action sometimes. My "elite" status has nothign to do with anything.

 

[Corn]

<< My comments were intended to inspire action, people have to be shocked into action sometimes. >>



No rahvin, your comments were intended to insult and berate. This attempt at sweeting your vile and disgusting attack on sysadmin's character is merely a reflection of your character.



<< My "elite" status has nothign to do with anything. >>



Ain't that the truth.

 

[Pliablemoose]

When I started coming to court with a portable file folder carrier, on the way in, someone commented to me: "You're a dad going for custody aren't you?" Had everything in folders, referenced & cross referenced, my ex would make a point on the stand, & I'd hand my attny a stack of certified return reciept letters or such. My attny was tickled each time & it helped catch the ex in the midst of numerous lies, she blew her credibility every time she opened her mouth.

 

[rahvin]

<<No rahvin, your comments were intended to insult and berate. This attempt at sweeting your vile and disgusting attack on sysadmin's character is merely a reflection on your character. >>

You may disagree with me about what effect my messages had but NEVER tell me what my intent was because you don't have a clue.

 

[rahvin]

<<When I started coming to court with a portable file folder carrier, on the way in, someone commented to me: "You're a dad going for custody aren't you?" Had everything in folders, referenced & cross referenced, my ex would make a point on the stand, & I'd hand my attny a stack of certified return reciept letters or such. My attny was tickled each time & it helped catch the ex in the midst of numerous lies, she blew her credibility every time she opened her mouth. >>

You said it better than I did. That type of file is what you need sysadmin. You need to do a bunch of the work for your attorney and let them do what they do best, argue/buttkiss the court. Organization is your friend.

 

[Corn]

<< ....but NEVER tell me what my intent was because you don't have a clue. >>



LOL, yeah, I'll keep that in mind.

Hey, is that "clue" that I don't have the same one you didn't have regarding sysadmin's situation prior to opening up your (figurative) mouth?


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Do you have a clue about what I just typed?

 

[darkjester]

<<

<< Read this first, and you will never have Children!!!!!!!
How this Country Rapes Fathers!!!!!!!! >>


While extreme, it is very true.
I had a brutal time wrestling primary custody from my son's mother, in a small southern court to top it off. But I won, he lives here now, has a stable, loving, secure life, and SHE pays me child support!
Wo0t! >>


You are certainly not the norm. But congratulations!

 

[aimn]

X951,,,,,,,,,,I just emailed him and will follow up with a call or several calls..........thanks for the lead!!!!

 

[aimn]

I do have stacks of information for a lawyer but the problem is that it is 7 yrs old now. I called the PD in the town she lives in and told the Chief that I wanted a copy of every police report concerning the ex. He called me back saying "you better come up here and we will go though them. I have 55 reports concerning her and I know that you just want the ones for custody. They are $5 a piece, come up and we will copy what you need." She also has a lengthy criminal record that I could get a copy of also. She just got out of jail a few months ago for her 2nd DUI. She has been charged with educational neglect of my daughter too. I have that stuff. So anyways, I can obtain more than enough evidence to gain custody, but........this county is goofy. I have had lawyers say yes, then ask what county. I tell them Wright County and they say, "save your money Ted, you wont get your daughter in that county. Good bye."

 

[The Stigenator]

how odd that CPA is so powerless in your state & county. Out here my ex-neighbour (they moved out) got visited by the CPA the day after the complaint was lodged by the owners of the building. However the complaint was false. Our ex-neighbours were very good parents. The manager and the owner didnt like this couple and tried all kinda stunts to try and evict them ( I think) . It came to a point where the City of Glendale and a few of its departmetns as well as the city police got involved. Los Angeles county CPA had come over to take the child but then realised when the came over that the report given was false and teh child wasnt touch. Not a mark on her, despite the claim by the manager.

The city sued for having the police department called for false child endangerment calls and they joined it with teh other reports. My ex-neighbour got a big lump sum from his suit to the manager and the owner. Since then they havent troubled anybody.

I know in LA county the CPA is very very active.

 

[aimn]

I dont know if Child Protection in Wright County is as much powerless as it is lazy. It seems like you pain them each time you call in and file a complaint. I had a Detective with Wright County Sheriffs Department tell me this; "Ted, I have worked for WC for 28 years. I want to tell you that child protection isnt going to do anything unless your daughter is severly injured or killed. They are terrified of law suits and dont do anything until there backs are against the wall."
Example: My ex decided out of the blue to join The Rolling Stones as a roady, setting up chairs. She just up and left one day leaving the kids (15,9 and my daughter 4 at the time) a note saying go to the neighbors if you need anything, mom will be gone for a while, working. The nieghbors called child protection. CP came and investigated filing a report saying "Although it was true that the mother was on the road, working her job, the kids were instructed to call the nieghbors if they needed anything. No dangerous condition exists." The nieghbor didnt want or need 3 more mouths to feed, she was irrate! Thats a typical Wright County Child Protection response. Unbelievable.

 

[rahvin]

If the CPA won't react for fear of lawsuit you need to have a meeting with one of their managers and tell them that if anything happens to your daughter you are going to sue them for negligence. Don't be threatening, don't be condecending, just be matter of fact about it. Use their fear of lawsuits against them to get what you want. You may also want to see if you can sue for custody in a county other than the one the child lives in. Not sure on the law here, pibble and others have the experience you want.