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Don't buy Celine Dion's new "CD"...

wdb1966

wdb1966

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It will crash & possibly damage your Mac or PC computer!

Sony puts themselves in a strange position, they sell computer hardware that can double as home audio and then make "CDs" that won't work with it.
...me thinks Philips should pull the "Compact Disc Digital Audio" license from Sony...its a Philips trademark and they can force other companies to stop using it if their product deviates from the standard...and they have already threatened to do so.
 
Okay. So this CD has corrupted session data. Probably means any device that is capable of handling multi-session discs will have problems. Does this include modern car CD players which make a point of being CD-R/CD-RW compatible? If so, that puts Sony in an even more interesting position as it could possibly render it incompatible with its own audio-specific products.

I think any action Phillips takes here is merely a political gesture. They can force companies that use these forms of copy protection (actually, it's not copy protection since it does nothing to prevent digitizing the music using other means...it's really unauthorized player protection) to remove the "Compact Disc" label and symbol from their products but that's basically it. Sony is unique as far as I know in that the company also produces consumer hardware. But these are separate businesses under the big "Sony" name and, depending on how the license agreement with Phillips is structured, Phillips might have difficulty revoking Sony Electronic's license because of something that Sony's music label did.

 


<< Epic/Sony released "A New Day Has Come" embedded with Key2Audio copy protection in Germany and several other European countries. >>

It does not affect the U.S. release, though if the run is successful in Europe, I can see it coming to the U.S. soon.
 
If my wife ever says she wants that CD (even here in the US) I will say no way. I think a Boycott of all CD's coming out with the protection crap overseas should be boycotted in the USA... show them what would happen if they try that here.

That is in Violation of my Fair Use Rights.
 
In the end it doesn't matter what protection schemes they use. The CD still has to be able to be read by something at some point to extract the sound. Clever people will simply figure out how to use that same equipment to copy the discs. Just like DVD: people had defeated the silly Macrovision long before they defeated CSS. And the hardcore pirates simply duplicated the entire disc bit for bit.

It's rather hilarious that Sony thinks these protection schemes will make any difference. The minute some one realizes they happen to have a CD drive that will read the disc properly, they will rip it to MP3's, and it will be bouncing around the MusicCity or Gnutella networks within a day. Who's taking bets on how long it will take for Celine Dion's new album to show up?

It's hopeless for the content distributors now. The Internet -- not Napster, not the pirates -- has taken away their supposed raison d'etre. We no longer need them. Artists can now deliver their art directly to their audience. Their revenue can come from a combination of advertising and the honor system for micro-payments on single works. And the importance of live performances will increase dramatically. This is a paradigm shift from the music and film industry of the last century, and it will take time. The existing content distributors -- record companies and film studios -- will fight it tooth and nail.

Modus
 
FWIW worth, I have the European release CD right here and it works and plays back perfectly on my computer. No issues playing it, or ejecting the CD as was mentioned by the article.
At least in my case it's provided no problems.

 
I'm boycotting all cd's... buying cd's just makes the RIAA, and other corrupt companies stronger and more corrupt. Aren't people tired of listening to commercial music of musicians glorifying themselves and acting like freaks just so you'll take thier music seriously? Radio rulez anyway... it's our materialism that tells us we want to "own" the music.
 
Modus wrote:

"Who's taking bets on how long it will take for Celine Dion's new album to show up?"

ROFLMAO. That's what is so damn hilarious. It is already available, Key2Audio defeated effortlessly. These companies just don't learn.

What is really sad? The cost of these ridiculous protection schemes has to be recouped ... guess how? Yep, higher CD prices.
 


<< Don't buy Celine Dion's new "CD"... >>



I'm not but I did buy the latest White Stripes and Rufus Wainwright CD's today.
 


<< FWIW worth, I have the European release CD right here and it works and plays back perfectly on my computer. No issues playing it, or ejecting the CD as was mentioned by the article.
At least in my case it's provided no problems. >>



Can you rip them? I have an X-files CD that causes my iBook to throw up. My PC doesn't freak out as much but won't rip it.

Aside from a couple of other discs with data on them, my other ~300 discs rip fine FOR MY OWN MP3 USAGE.

So yes, that copy protection on the X-files CD does work to an extent. It works to p!ss me off enough to never buy a disc like that again if I can help it.
 


<< I'm boycotting all cd's... buying cd's just makes the RIAA, and other corrupt companies stronger and more corrupt. Aren't people tired of listening to commercial music of musicians glorifying themselves and acting like freaks just so you'll take thier music seriously? Radio rulez anyway... it's our materialism that tells us we want to "own" the music. >>

Good, I'm not the only one boycotting the RIAA. I'm about to make the next logical step, and sell all of my old RIAA cds as well. They want to screw over their customers? Fine, I'll stop being a customer.
 


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<< FWIW worth, I have the European release CD right here and it works and plays back perfectly on my computer. No issues playing it, or ejecting the CD as was mentioned by the article.
At least in my case it's provided no problems. >>



Can you rip them? I have an X-files CD that causes my iBook to throw up. My PC doesn't freak out as much but won't rip it.
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I havent tried ripping it, I generally never have reason to bother. I'll see if I can though and get back to you on it.
 
No no, go buy the cd, record it with linein from your stereo, then say it doesn't play in your car or someting and go return it for your money back.
 
Who here remembers the South Park episode with Celine Dion in it? OMG that was funny.... 🙂

Is there a place where CDs with that form of copy protection are listed? I would like to know before I buy....
 


<< So yes, that copy protection on the X-files CD does work to an extent. It works to p!ss me off enough to never buy a disc like that again if I can help it. >>



Eug, you know you have a legal right to return the disk, right? The store that sold it to you misrepresented it as a CD, but in fact it fails to meet Red Book Audio standards. That means that the store sold you a product that isn't what it claims to be.
 
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