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squarecut1

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I can never understand how people in movies and tv shows wake up in the morning all clean shaved. That is a mystery for the scientists to ponder over.
 

destrekor

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I can never understand how people in movies and tv shows wake up in the morning all clean shaved. That is a mystery for the scientists to ponder over.

I could look that way! :(

I can shave one morning, and the next day you can't really tell unless you are literally in my face and trying to feel for whiskers.

If I have what appears to be a light five o'clock shadow, I probably shaved a few days prior. If it's a beardly man's five o'clock shadow, I probably grew it out for a week to get there.

I could get away with not shaving a day in military uniform and have nobody be able to tell that I missed that morning's shave. At worst, they might suspect it's just the stubble growth after shaving in the morning. But I can pass the touch inspection the entire day and evening after a morning shave! lol
 

destrekor

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Yet if I was going to kill someone(s) discretely I'd at least consider a .22. A round or two to the brain or heart will kill a person, it won't "drop" them, but I doubt any discrete firearm would. In any case movies are generally about flashiness or style, neither of which fits a suppressed .22.

If you can get close, a well-aimed .22 toward the base of the skull, perhaps ear-level, is basically a guaranteed "drop". The weaker velocity will make it less likely to tumble around inside the brain, at least not for as long as a higher-velocity (a high velocity .50 will almost always be a through-and-through unless it was from way in the distance). You can chew up a fair bit of the brain and still be left with a living body, but if you hit toward the base of the brain/brain stem, that's a critical blow that knocks out all bodily functions.

It takes great aim because a weak and small bullet that doesn't tumble much means it might not hit enough critical tissue during it's travel through the tissue and subsequent tumbling. If it shattered on impact that helps improves chances.
If it happens to go clean in and out, if it missed critical tissue, the victim might still live! Even a tumbling bullet, if weak enough, might mean the victim remains breathing. Self awareness, responsiveness, and intact original personality not guaranteed - but meeting the definition of living is possible.

A .50 is a little different: high velocity might mean a clean through and through, but such power might also destroy a massive swath of tissue on its way, instead of mostly only the tissue it directly cuts through. And if it's just slowed enough or hits a perfect angle and reflects off the skull instead of punching through to exit, that tumble and possible shatter basically means almost all of the brain tissue is basically now rendered a tender soup of tissue. With a .50 cal though, through and through or tumble basically produces the same result: half the head, at minimum, is likely gone - looking like a smashed pumpkin where the victim lie. D:

Point being: to be sure, go as high of power as possible - though situations may require a touch of finesse and discretion, so if you must go with weaker solutions, work on that aim.
It's not nice nor fair to leave a headshot victim alive, imho.
 

02ranger

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How about cups that are supposed to have liquid in them but are clearly empty. I know that's a pretty minor one, but it drives me nuts that they can't even bother to put some water in the cup so the actors won't wave it around like it's empty! It's bad enough when the cup is open-topped, but if they get a cup that has a lid on it then they're even worse about waving it around........
 

Jeff7

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Gun physics are usually not portrayed well at all. Dual pistol use of ANY caliber or gun is actually very difficult, unless you are that one in ten million split brain type person. Even then the guns must be kept small, light, and low caliber.

Also people dont go flying backwards when shot. In fact most humans tend to fall forward when they lose control of their muscles suddenly, even if they just faint or wig out for a split second.
Or from a hit from a light-based weapon. If the energy imparted into you was sufficient that the vaporization of your body was enough to propel you backward, it'd also be bad news for the person firing. Nothing like setting off a small plasma pulse rocket whose hypervelocity exhaust is going to be heading in your general direction.



And of course, people don't always get shot in the chest. Getting shot in the head just gets your show a more graphic rating, and we can't reach as many viewers that way. Gutshots all around!
 

preslove

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If you can get close, a well-aimed .22 toward the base of the skull, perhaps ear-level, is basically a guaranteed "drop". The weaker velocity will make it less likely to tumble around inside the brain, at least not for as long as a higher-velocity (a high velocity .50 will almost always be a through-and-through unless it was from way in the distance). You can chew up a fair bit of the brain and still be left with a living body, but if you hit toward the base of the brain/brain stem, that's a critical blow that knocks out all bodily functions.

It takes great aim because a weak and small bullet that doesn't tumble much means it might not hit enough critical tissue during it's travel through the tissue and subsequent tumbling. If it shattered on impact that helps improves chances.
If it happens to go clean in and out, if it missed critical tissue, the victim might still live! Even a tumbling bullet, if weak enough, might mean the victim remains breathing. Self awareness, responsiveness, and intact original personality not guaranteed - but meeting the definition of living is possible.

A .50 is a little different: high velocity might mean a clean through and through, but such power might also destroy a massive swath of tissue on its way, instead of mostly only the tissue it directly cuts through. And if it's just slowed enough or hits a perfect angle and reflects off the skull instead of punching through to exit, that tumble and possible shatter basically means almost all of the brain tissue is basically now rendered a tender soup of tissue. With a .50 cal though, through and through or tumble basically produces the same result: half the head, at minimum, is likely gone - looking like a smashed pumpkin where the victim lie. D:

Point being: to be sure, go as high of power as possible - though situations may require a touch of finesse and discretion, so if you must go with weaker solutions, work on that aim.
It's not nice nor fair to leave a headshot victim alive, imho.

Three .22 rounds to the brain is going to kill anybody, every time.
 

squarecut1

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How about cups that are supposed to have liquid in them but are clearly empty. I know that's a pretty minor one, but it drives me nuts that they can't even bother to put some water in the cup so the actors won't wave it around like it's empty! It's bad enough when the cup is open-topped, but if they get a cup that has a lid on it then they're even worse about waving it around........

I never fail to notice this too. Or a mug of supposed tea or coffee which is empty. You can tell by the way they lift or hold it. Then those imaginary sips...so annoying. Lazy and careless direction.
 

pontifex

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How about movies where something is happening, like a fight or something major and the people in the background keep going about their normal day like nothing is happening?
 

Fritzo

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Since I became aware of the phenomenon of "knockout convenience", movies are ruined for me. When one character knocks another character out, it's always for the amount of time needed to carry out a task. The knocker-outer never seems worried that the knock-outee will wake up before the task is complete.
 
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02ranger

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How about movies where something is happening, like a fight or something major and the people in the background keep going about their normal day like nothing is happening?

That reminds me of the people in Law and Order. The cops come to question them about somebody who's dead or been raped or something, and they go on about their day like they're too busy to stop and speak to the cops. How many people get questioned by the police so often that it becomes boring enough they can keep watering their flowers?
 

02ranger

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Since I became aware of the phenomenon of "knockout convenience", movies are ruined for me. When one character knocks another character out, it's always for the amount of time needed to carry out a task. The knocker-outer never seems worried that the knock-outee will wake up before the task is complete.

It's also funny that people always manage to enter the room the moment a conversation ends so that the main character can seamlessly transition from talking to one person to the next, with no down time......