Question [DongKnowsTech] Asus AX89X review (Wifi 6 4x4 router, with DUAL 10GbE (one SFP+) ports!)

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Asus RT-AX89X Review: An Outstanding Wi-Fi 6 Router | Dong Knows Tech

The Asus RT-AX89X is the first Wi-Fi 6 router with two 10Gbps network ports, but that's just one of many reasons you'd want to get it today!
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I think that I've found my new "dream router". Has a fan, too! (Both good and bad, I guess, but mostly, good.)

Note that you can use the 10GbE-T and 10GbE SFP+ ports, either as LAN and LAN, WAN/LAN mixed, or dual-WAN (Crazy-good!).

Dong mentions dual-WAN support, using USB3 as well. So, I kind of wonder, if plugging in a 2.5GbE-T USB3.0 dongle, or a 5GbE-T USB3.0 dongle (that is compatible with Linux) would work with this router, as a WAN port too? Or a LAN port, if you use both 10GbE ports for dual-WAN (if you are so lucky as to have both a primary and a secondary 10GbE WAN connection, that is. :) )

Altogether, looks like a really amazing router, that hits ALL the "sweet spots". $450, not entirely unreasonable, especially with dual 10GbE ports too. (There's 8 1GbE-T LAN ports, which 1+2 can be aggregated into a 2Gb/s connection, and one 1GbE-T port for WAN as well.)

Edit: Has AT done a review on this router yet? Does AT do router reviews? Dong is one of the most knowledgeable people about consumer routers on the interner, btw.

Edit: In-stock @ Newegg!

Are you a human?

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At that price, you're well within reach of enterprise routers that would be a much better value for what they offer--real vpn out of the bag, many more features you can only dream on a consumer router, and a level of robustness that second-to-none.

I really wonder what it's real routing speeds are and if it can actually route 10Gb.
 
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OK, this guy did show the UI (in English) of dual WAN feature at 7:30 mark,

Can't understand a bit, only know it's Cantonese.


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The guy use Netivagator to test speed and it's 8G.

Googled and found it's in Hong Kong.

www.netvigator.com

Netvigator | 10G Fiber-to-the-Home

NETVIGATOR is always reinventing itself to stay innovative, and is Hong Kong\'s first broadband service provider to offer 10G Fiber-to-the-Home Broadband service.
www.netvigator.com
 
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VirtualLarry said:
They have 10Gb/s home internet in .HK? Jealous.... :)
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The deployment cost is a lot lower than USA when you have highest population density in the world.

They can build 10+ floors apartment building on an average American's single home's land, and the buildings are side by side.
 
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I remember Dong Ngo when he was on Cnet. I'm a bit surprised that he didn't test the 10Gb ports. Standing by for more reviews.
 
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not to be bashing asus, but they are probably the last company i would go with for networking stuff outside the mid tier routers.

There 10G switch has been a can of fail, and so has there 10G nic cards.
 
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Maybe the AQC107 chipset is just not mature enough? No idea.

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Interesting articles. Nothing to do with quality/reliability.

Aquantia AQTION AQC107 vs INTEL X550-T2 - comparing 10G interfaces
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Aquantia network chips are increasingly being distributed as an expensive home or low-cost business solution for 10-Gigabit networks. We compared the company's youngest chip with Intel's flagship network card when working with file operations, and the results were amazing.
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How to distinguish 10-gigabit network card intel x520-da2 from chinese fakes
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How to distinguish 10-Gigabit network card Intel X520-DA2 from Chinese fakes

10-Gigabit networks are becoming more common even in the simplest IT projects, where there is a desire to save every ruble. Intel network cards are used more often than any other, but unfortunately, in China they have learned to fake them. It is easy to distinguish the original from a fake, and...
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SamirD said:
At that price, you're well within reach of enterprise routers that would be a much better value for what they offer--real vpn out of the bag, many more features you can only dream on a consumer router, and a level of robustness that second-to-none.
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I'm curious to know what enterprise router you could get for $450 with all the features the RT-AX89X has?
 
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Considering the AQC107 is a total POS chipset I wouldnt even consider this, better to wait for one to hit the market using the intel chipset, even if its cost more.
 
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iamgenius said:
Same here. Please let us know SamirD
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So a Fortigate for $412 will kick the living crap out of that consumer abomination with specs like:
Firewall throughput (512-byte UDP): 10 Gbps, VPN throughput (512-bit IPSec): 6.5 Gbps, Threat protection throughput: 700 Mbps, Firewall throughput: 9 Mpps, Firewall throughput: 10 Gbps, IPS throughput: 1.4 Gbps, Firewall throughput (64-byte UDP): 6 Gbps, Firewall throughput (1518-byte UDP): 10 Gbps, NGFW throughput: 1 Gbps, Application control (AVC) throughput: 1.8 Gbps, SSL inspection throughput: 900 Mbps, SSL inspection throughput: 750 Mbps, Firewall throughput: 9000000 packets per second, VPN throughput (SSL): 900 Mbps

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Fortinet FortiGate 60F - Security Appliance - FG-60F-PROMO - Firewalls & VPN - CDW.com

Buy a Fortinet FortiGate 60F - Security Appliance at CDW.com
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If you need wireless too, you can just get a 40F and then buy a nice solid AP like a ubiquti and be done for a very long time.
 
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SamirD said:
So a Fortigate for $412 will kick the living crap out of that consumer abomination with specs like:
Firewall throughput (512-byte UDP): 10 Gbps, VPN throughput (512-bit IPSec): 6.5 Gbps, Threat protection throughput: 700 Mbps, Firewall throughput: 9 Mpps, Firewall throughput: 10 Gbps, IPS throughput: 1.4 Gbps, Firewall throughput (64-byte UDP): 6 Gbps, Firewall throughput (1518-byte UDP): 10 Gbps, NGFW throughput: 1 Gbps, Application control (AVC) throughput: 1.8 Gbps, SSL inspection throughput: 900 Mbps, SSL inspection throughput: 750 Mbps, Firewall throughput: 9000000 packets per second, VPN throughput (SSL): 900 Mbps

www.cdw.com

Fortinet FortiGate 60F - Security Appliance - FG-60F-PROMO - Firewalls & VPN - CDW.com

Buy a Fortinet FortiGate 60F - Security Appliance at CDW.com
www.cdw.com www.cdw.com

If you need wireless too, you can just get a 40F and then buy a nice solid AP like a ubiquti and be done for a very long time.
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1GbE ports for $400+, not exactly comparable to a 10GbE and 10Gb SFP+ with 8 1GbE as well.

I'm sure the software/firmware for the Fortigate is much more robust, and I bet it even has better VPN throughput. But if you're on Comcast's 2gbps service for example, you're probably going to want a router with an SFP+ port (since that is what comcast delivers the 2gbps on).

The CHEAPEST Fortigate with 10Gbps is $2000+, the Fortigate 100F.

www.cdw.com

Fortinet FortiGate 100F - security appliance - FG-100F - Firewalls & VPN - CDW.com

Buy a Fortinet FortiGate 100F - security appliance at CDW.com
www.cdw.com www.cdw.com
 
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I already have a GT-AX11000 and would like to add the AX89X in a mesh setup, which one should I run as the primary?

My home is large with +50 devices connected at all times, sometimes over 80 when all the family is home. 1/2 wired, 1/2 not.
 
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IamDavid said:
I already have a GT-AX11000 and would like to add the AX89X in a mesh setup, which one should I run as the primary?

My home is large with +50 devices connected at all times, sometimes over 80 when all the family is home. 1/2 wired, 1/2 not.
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The AX11000 should probably be the primary since it has an extra 5GHz radio that can be used as the backhaul between the two routers.
 
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The AX11000 should probably be the primary since it has an extra 5GHz radio that can be used as the backhaul between the two routers.
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Thanks Synomenon, I can't find anywhere that Asus explains the impact of mixing models besides the vague disclaimer of using the best router for the primary.
 
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