Donate $10 to help those out of work feed their pets

[alkemyst]

Wow, no need or the insults; I'm beginning to see why many put you on ignore.

Animals can survive on their own. Plenty know how to scrounge or kill smaller animals for food (cats and mice?)

Agreed, releasing a pet is a crime, so take it to your local shelter. Or go do it out in the country where no one will see you.

No, the charity is for the pets. If it was for the people, the charity would be helping them, not helping the pets. I'd rather donate to people, for people.

When you're that down on your luck, you need to focus on the the bare needs for living: food, shelter, and clothing, not "food, shelter, clothing, and taking donations to feed my pet".

It's not sad to see a local pet shelter get a 5 million dollar grant to create it's dream "pet park" and wonder "man, how many people could have that helped?"

First off, while house cats kill mice and pests they rarely eat them. A farm cat is usually much more feral than a house cat so those don't count.

Second, when people release their cats especially they just do it in their neighborhood creating a problem for everyone else especially if they were never de-sexed. Either way it's illegal to abandon a pet in that manner.

Most pet 'shelters' don't take grant money and build a dog park.

You are trolling and have been reported for spreading information that is not only wrong but illegal.

 

[Jeffg010]

Are you fucking retarded? Pet dogs and cats cannot survive on their own. Most will die within a year. They have to rely on breaking into garbage cans as they do not know how to hunt.

Not to mention releasing a pet into the wild is a crime.

BTW this charity was for the PEOPLE that own the pets. Not the pets themselves.

Such a sad little man you are.

I'm going to disagree with you about cats. They can live on there own and they are some of the most effect killers on the planet. They do just fine off of rodents, birds and insects. I owned a pet cat for 17 years growing up and she was an outdoor cat and was a killing machine. A cat’s natural instinct is to attack and be a predator. IMHO the population of dogs and cats are too high and I'm all for euthanizing of animals because of over population. This is why I support regulation hunting to curb the over populations of wild animals. I rather support something like ducks unlimited or a trout stocking program that will benefit the environment. I'm going to support someone's pet.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Good thing those folks can feed their pets now! I was really worried they wouldn't survive on their own if they let them go; animals aren't resourceful at all! I feel much better giving them money than to a charity for other humans.

Is there any particular reason you feel like trolling a thread that might actually do spme good? If you feel donating to the homeless is a better cause you are welcome to do so.

 

[alkemyst]

I'm going to disagree with you about cats. They can live on there own and they are some of the most effect killers on the planet. They do just fine off of rodents, birds and insects. I owned a pet cat for 17 years growing up and she was an outdoor cat and was a killing machine. A cat’s natural instinct is to attack and be a predator. IMHO the population of dogs and cats are too high and I'm all for euthanizing of animals because of over population. This is why I support regulation hunting to curb the over populations of wild animals. I rather support something like ducks unlimited or a trout stocking program that will benefit the environment. I'm going to support someone's pet.

A non-feral cat has never been trained to hunt by it's mother. It's not an instinct anymore than you can put a man out in the wild and see if he survives.

If your cat was only an outdoor cat, it was more than likely taught to hunt.

indoor/semi-indoor cats don't get this.

Most will die within a year if they have some access to trash.

 

[gothamhunter]

First off, while house cats kill mice and pests they rarely eat them. A farm cat is usually much more feral than a house cat so those don't count.

Second, when people release their cats especially they just do it in their neighborhood creating a problem for everyone else especially if they were never de-sexed. Either way it's illegal to abandon a pet in that manner.

Most pet 'shelters' don't take grant money and build a dog park.

You are trolling and have been reported for spreading information that is not only wrong but illegal.

I owned a house cat that ate mice, and a blue healer/lab mix that regularly brought home his half eaten corpses of animals.

I never claim that it isn't illegal, but if my shelter didn't take my pet and I could barely feed myself let alone my cat, I'd sure as well drop it off in a cornfield.

http://www.dbqhumane.org/cms-view-page.php?page=spay-neuter
This was funded by grants.

http://www.kcrg.com/news/local/48122697.html
They're accepting grants, but a lot of it is coming from donations.


Oh, and you're reported for calling me fucking retarded.

 

[gothamhunter]

Is there any particular reason you feel like trolling a thread that might actually do spme good? If you feel donating to the homeless is a better cause you are welcome to do so.

I don't mean to troll, in all honesty. I just don't agree with donating to someone who can't pay for their bills so that they can feed their pet.

With that said, if you feel the need to, then by all means do it if you think it's a good idea!

 

[Jeffg010]

A non-feral cat has never been trained to hunt by it's mother. It's not an instinct anymore than you can put a man out in the wild and see if he survives.

If your cat was only an outdoor cat, it was more than likely taught to hunt.

indoor/semi-indoor cats don't get this.

Most will die within a year if they have some access to trash.

So who taught these type of cats how to access trash 😛

 

[alkemyst]

I owned a house cat that ate mice, and a blue healer/lab mix that regularly brought home his half eaten corpses of animals.

I never claim that it isn't illegal, but if my shelter didn't take my pet and I could barely feed myself let alone my cat, I'd sure as well drop it off in a cornfield.

http://www.dbqhumane.org/cms-view-page.php?page=spay-neuter
This was funded by grants.

http://www.kcrg.com/news/local/48122697.html
They're accepting grants, but a lot of it is coming from donations.


Oh, and you're reported for calling me fucking retarded.

I asked if you were, not the same as calling you it.

It's clear you are unfit as a pet owner allowing animals to roam free even in the country.

A dog going after pests would rather get a chicken.

 

[alkemyst]

So who taught these type of cats how to access trash 😛

They can smell the people food they learned. To them a fresh chicken is just a plaything.

 

[gothamhunter]

I asked if you were, not the same as calling you it.

It's clear you are unfit as a pet owner allowing animals to roam free even in the country.

A dog going after pests would rather get a chicken.

Symantics; it was obviously implied.

I'm an excellent pet owner, but if I couldn't feed my own face, or my wives, without needing donations to feed our pet, I would no longer be a pet owner, that's for sure.

 

[gothamhunter]

They can smell the people food they learned. To them a fresh chicken is just a plaything.

Is this why my old house cat ate fish out of my fish bowl? I mean I know they saw me reach in there and eat it raw all the time, but I didn't think they'd learn so quick...

 

[alkemyst]

Is this why my old house cat ate fish out of my fish bowl? I mean I know they saw me reach in there and eat it raw all the time, but I didn't think they'd learn so quick...

you are just full of stories bro, full of it.

Fish aren't really something most cats want to eat though....

You have all the exceptions of the rule.

Good thing you recommend people doing the illegal thing rather than the right thing and are simply not interested in helping anyone but yourself.

You have a wife? I always thought you were a kid.

 

[amish]

c'mon assholes, if anyone other than Alky had posted this it would either be ignored or people would donate. no need to troll it up just because Alky is posting.

 

[gothamhunter]

you are just full of stories bro, full of it.

Fish aren't really something most cats want to eat though....

You have all the exceptions of the rule.

Good thing you recommend people doing the illegal thing rather than the right thing and are simply not interested in helping anyone but yourself.

You have a wife? I always thought you were a kid.

Again with the insults...

I'm sorry that I'm able to prove against your ultimate theory of animals, where no household animal is able to support themselves in the wild and no pet organization takes grants, and apparently cat don't like fish (wth)?

I am 24, so still pretty young I guess.

c'mon assholes, if anyone other than Alky had posted this it would either be ignored or people would donate. no need to troll it up just because Alky is posting.

Look at my post history; I'm not the trolling type and generally don't interact with Alky - anyone could have posted this and I would have the same stance: If you can't support yourself(ves) and a pet, without donations FOR the pet, then you don't need a pet.

In any case, I'll stop posting in here as to stop getting the thread off track. Everyone who is interested in donating for this cause, I applaud you for donating at all, but I will not be joining you 🙂



"In any case, I'll stop posting in here as to stop getting the thread off track."
Wise move.
admin allisolm

 

[RavenSEAL]

Bearxor, I will gift you $40 for cat food if you can use it. I have to stroke a check to the IRS this month and just took in a feral cat and her baby (was two others, but they didn't make it).

We just took a 4 month female kitty off the streets and had to pay the county $120 out of pocket to process all the paperwork and get her checked out, I sure as hell wouldn't mind $40 to buy some cat food. Now we have 2 feline mouths to feed 😛

 

[darkewaffle]

If you can't support yourself(ves) and a pet, without donations FOR the pet, then you don't need a pet.

I don't think anyone is disagreeing that a family in need of donations really isn't in a good position to be pet owners, but pets are not disposable. You cannot simply turn them off and reactivate them when you're ready; they not only are living creatures but in many cases very near and dear to the family. I would sooner turn off a utility than have to give up my dog.

Also, I had two cats growing up. The one was a black cat that kind of wandered into our yard when he was a year or two old and the whole time we had him he chased birds and mice and got into fights going outside. He would have been fine if he was off on his own and actually did wander away for days at a time rarely.

Our younger cat we adopted from a litter that our vet was trying to find homes for and has been an indoor cat all her life, we got her when she wasn't much bigger than your own hand. Much as I love her that cat has no chance of surviving on her own, she's scared of even the slightest noise, has only ever been outside a handful of times in her life (and almost always supervised), and wouldn't know the first thing about hunting. While the mechanical 'instinct' is there to some extent, in the way she chases strings and grabs at objects with her paws and proceeds to secure them with her teeth, she has no knowledge of prey, shelter, predators, or other necessary survival skills for an animal.

Everyone's got a soft spot, you prefer 'people' charities and thats great, the world needs that. I happen to think the world needs to help it's animals as well and trying to make a point that 'this charity isn't as good as that charity' is wholly unnecessary. It takes all kinds.

 

[bfdd]

Just donated to some animal rescue things recently or I would, I'll pass it along though alke thanks.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I'm 100%against dropping a pet off into the wild. Period. Having said that animals can be resourceful. We picked up a dog from the local shelter that was on her own for a little while. The animal control just found her roaming the streets. We have not been able to break her of her habit of eating grass and bugs. I guess fending for herself she learned to eat whatever.

 

[postmortemIA]

so whoever has lost the job, should send pets to shelter, so we have even more there? what a bunch of assholes here.

 

[Ronstang]

I'd give my money to a damn hobo before I helped feed someone else's dog.

Actually I would give money/food to help feed a pet before I would give anything to feed someone out of work. Out of work just means you are too good to work what is available right now.

 

[Red Squirrel]

They should find another job. Move if they have to. There's plenty of jobs in Canada. I hate how people who don't have a job expect hand outs instead of looking for another job. It sucks, but they just have to move on and find another job and not expect society to give everything to them.

I do see it as a nice cause in a way but if I'm going to give money to help animals I rather give it to the shelter.

 

[alkemyst]

Actually I would give money/food to help feed a pet before I would give anything to feed someone out of work. Out of work just means you are too good to work what is available right now.

lol says the guy that inherited everything.

However, I do agree once you lose your job and put in the 2-3 months exploratory work; it's time to find anything.

It's a double-edged sword though with most employers asking what was your last wage and/or are you currently working.

Most won't hire out of work and most will set your starting wage on your last job.

 

[Ronstang]

lol says the guy that inherited everything.

What are you talking about? My parents are still alive and I don't take anything from them. Hell, I paid for most of my undergraduate degree and my masters. I never even took money from my parents when I was in high school. I have always found a way to earn money to buy what I want since I was 7 years old.

 

[alkemyst]

We just took a 4 month female kitty off the streets and had to pay the county $120 out of pocket to process all the paperwork and get her checked out, I sure as hell wouldn't mind $40 to buy some cat food. Now we have 2 feline mouths to feed 😛

$120 is not a bad price for a cat you wanted.

I am not a rich guy, I help those that need it.

My current pets are 5 cats and 1 dog. It was 2 dogs until recently 🙁

I am fostering another cat with one kitten indoors and getting them vet treatment.

I feed about 35lbs of dry food and 300 cans of wet food a month. Plus provide vet care when they are sick.

Don't troll here please, this is a fucking serious thread. Losing a pet is right behind losing a child/human loved one. Many people do not recover from either.

We are in a financial mess. I am happy I survived it and want to help. I still had my own set backs and have to catchup.

 

[alkemyst]

What are you talking about? My parents are still alive and I don't take anything from them. Hell, I paid for most of my undergraduate degree and my masters. I never even took money from my parents when I was in high school. I have always found a way to earn money to buy what I want since I was 7 years old.

Sorry thought you said all your cars were inheritance.