Donald Trump Jr. Spent Earth Day Shooting Prairie Dogs

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SKORPI0

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Just to be fair, they should be provided a way to fight back. ;)

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Hayabusa Rider

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I'll start with the people who have the lowest IQ, and that would begin with YOU


You can do what you like except for what you can't. Naturally a clever enough person with the resources could design an effective plague and knock numbers down. I shouldn't be surprised to see that happen. Regarding my comment starting with "A", there are movements which support the elimination of humanity for being "unnatural". I submit that humans cannot be that because we are the product of changes in the environment.

The problem is that "science"/evolution will eventually lead to extinction of the species, because what we do to the environment, we do to ourselves. All evolving species eventually die off.

I'd dispute that we're apex predators, tigers, pythons and sharks can all easily kill and eat humans.

Nothing lasts forever, however we have evolved to be THE technological intelligence on the planet. We have hands and the evolved ability to manipulate the environment. Consequently we naturally make weapons to compensate for our unimpressive physical abilities with encountering other animals. If you were to remove the natural adaptive ability then yes we would likely be extinct. But a human male in good condition armed with a well designed bladed pole arm could overcome a tiger. Considering our prehistoric neolithic ancestors hunted megafauna it follows that we have done well against creatures what would easily have killed us if we eliminated our natural abilities to make implements for whatever reason.

I submit that the problem isn't humans being superpredators but that wisdom is in short supply and that discernment has not kept pace with our ability to build. We constantly find ways to do a thing but fail to avoid those which are harmful.
 
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Yakk

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Well if you think it's good for population control, you should also think of doing something for population control of humanity, which by far are the most overpopulated species on the planet.

That subject has a certain... taboo associated with it. However sooner rather than later it will have to be addressed. Or.... The ecosystem in which we live in and depend on will do it for us.
 

A-L-E-X

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You can do what you like except for what you can't. Naturally a clever enough person with the resources could design an effective plague and knock numbers down. I shouldn't be surprised to see that happen. Regarding my comment starting with "A", there are movements which support the elimination of humanity for being "unnatural". I submit that humans cannot be that because we are the product of changes in the environment.



Nothing lasts forever, however we have evolved to be THE technological intelligence on the planet. We have hands and the evolved ability to manipulate the environment. Consequently we naturally make weapons to compensate for our unimpressive physical abilities with encountering other animals. If you were to remove the natural adaptive ability then yes we would likely be extinct. But a human male in good condition armed with a well designed bladed pole arm could overcome a tiger. Considering our prehistoric neolithic ancestors hunted megafauna it follows that we have done well against creatures what would easily have killed us if we eliminated our natural abilities to make implements for whatever reason.

I submit that the problem isn't humans being superpredators but that wisdom is in short supply and that discernment has not kept pace with our ability to build. We constantly find ways to do a thing but fail to avoid those which are harmful.

You're right- I say the same thing to nationalists- nothing is meant to last forever. This includes nations. If I was given a choice between starting a nuclear war to try and save my country (but possibly destroy the planet) and not doing it and risk being conquered, I'd choose the entire planet vs the existence of one country, even if it was mine.

Not really referring to other animals in my point about extinction, but moreso the type of food we eat and the higher rates of environmental pollution as well (which simple organisms evolve far more quickly to become immune to dangerous chemicals and pesticides than humanity ever could.) Rates of cancer and heart disease have been increasing due to the consumption of processed food (there are statements about it put out by the ACS and AHA.)

I'd like to make our population lower but don't support immoral ways of doing so. I don't know how far lower birth rates will take us, but I think the rest will be made up from disease, drought, famine, wars, etc. The only way out I see from us becoming extinct one day is escaping this closed system via space colonization.
 

A-L-E-X

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That subject has a certain... taboo associated with it. However sooner rather than later it will have to be addressed. Or.... The ecosystem in which we live in and depend on will do it for us.
I know. But I'm an atheist so I don't care about taboo :p I'm referring to a more hands-off approach though in terms of limiting birth rates rather than killing people off- people seem to do that on their own unfortunately.
 

A-L-E-X

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I know. But I'm an atheist so I don't care about taboo :p I'm referring to a more hands-off approach though in terms of limiting birth rates rather than killing people off- people seem to do that on their own unfortunately.

It's funny about taboos- Dr. Hook who works for the NOAA stated right after Earth Day that climate change is just a symptom of a larger problem, and stated that the larger problem is that there are too many people on the planet using too many resources. I agree about nature taking care of it if we don't, but I hope we have some time to do it via peaceful means.
 

Pens1566

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Yeah, I'll go out on a limb and say this wasn't him trying to be a good conservationist. This was more him doing the well off adult version of pulling the wings off of flies.
 
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brycejones

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Yeah, I'll go out on a limb and say this wasn't him trying to be a good conservationist. This was more him doing the well off adult version of pulling the wings off of flies.

Exactly this. This was killing things for fun not conservation. What a man he is.
 

1sikbITCH

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Ironically, shooting prairie dogs is practicing a form of conservation, depending on who you talk to. My cousin had to shoot them all the time during spring and summer months in Alberta for population control on his property.

This "practicing conservation" only has to happen because we already conserved the shit out of all the natural predators. Same thing happened with deer down here. Ran off the wolves and bears and now we have to keep shooting deer because there are too many.

As was pointed out by a previous poster, this "conservation" excuse is only valid if we are balancing the ecosystem starting at the very top. Since we are not controlling the human population the rest is BS.
 

repoman0

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Dump Jr. might be the only person in the world with a more punchable face than that pharma-bro.
 
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