When you run a word like that to the ground, especially in the context of comedy, you desensitize it to the point that it's lost all meaning. The word ho has not bite left in it, no matter how hard you grasp for straws here. If Imus wanted to really hurt someone's feelings he could have used a handful of stronger words with the same meaning: whore, slut, skank, c*nt, etc.
It is mainstream. It does not make it right, but blame MTV for allowing it to be used on prime time all these years. They saw fit to censor the n word, along "bitch" and the PG rated curses. For Christ's sake to word ho has been used on Jeopardy with no censorship:
http://www.jibjab.com/jokebox/jokebox/jibjab/id/187114/jokeid/56247
Didn't see anyone taking offense to the use of the word there. Prime time TV no less. Quick call Rev Al, Alex Trebek is a racist. That cracker-ass-cracker!
Same way I would not introduce her as my old lady, squeeze, or lover. WTF is your point? There's a time and a place for everything, and IMO a black tie event is no place for slang. I also would not curse or use the words cool, awesome, etc at such an event.
I didn't cry about Chris Rock using the word cracker. I take zero offense from it. Like ho, the term cracker has been run to the ground in comedy that it is basically meaningless at this point. Any white person who takes offense from the word cracker is in the same "looking to be offending" boat the Rutgers b-ball team and Rev Al.
It's perfectly acceptable as long as non-crybaby trolls looking to be offended don't go running to Rev Al and crying racism. I don't know a woman in my life who would take offense to being called a hoe. When the word is used 95% of the time in a comedic context, the word itself becomes comedic and stripped of its barbs. Call my wife a ho and she'll laugh at you. Call her a c*nt and she'll probably knock your teeth out.
I'm sick of all the reverse discrimination that goes on. How do think these new concepts would fly;
1. The united WHITE college fund.
2. WHITE history month.
3. All WHITE colleges.
Those would crash and burn pretty fast, and they should. Jackson and Sharpton would have the entire black community in the streets rioting if some white person actually proposed those concepts. I'm no racist and I think Imus made a bad choice with that joke, but I just don't see it as a big deal. Black people mock white people in the public eye all the time without incident.
1. The united WHITE college fund.
2. WHITE history month.
3. All WHITE colleges.
Those would crash and burn pretty fast, and they should. Jackson and Sharpton would have the entire black community in the streets rioting if some white person actually proposed those concepts. I'm no racist and I think Imus made a bad choice with that joke, but I just don't see it as a big deal. Black people mock white people in the public eye all the time without incident.
Exactly. People go to the auditions knowing what Simon is like, and many of them expecting to be humiliated. Nothing about a championship basketball game asks for that.
Linflas
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And people listen to Imus knowing what he is like as well. If not for Sharpton's rabble rousing on this issue it is likely that none of that team would have even been aware of what was said by some guy they are probably only peripherally aware of at best.
You've posted a very good point. I've never heard of this Don Imus guy until this sudden news event.
This is would be like calling me a "cracker", and then me not finding out about it until a week later and then suddenly becoming offended.
Please!
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Yea, this whole situation is just crazy. Every black leader asking for Imus' head. In the meantime, you have black rappers dropping the "n" word and calling their women bitches and hoes. Yet, no black leader goes after them. This would be a great time for a black leader to step out and stay something about black entertainers using these words inappropriately now that the spotlight is on them. Instead, they are going after Imus.
Don't think I am a fan of Imus because I have heard him maybe 2-3 times. However, these actions from the black community speak louder than words. They don't care if their own race uses these words. They don't care if their own race belittles their women like that. The only thing that matters is if a white person says something like this.
This whole situation stinks pretty badly.
Don't think I am a fan of Imus because I have heard him maybe 2-3 times. However, these actions from the black community speak louder than words. They don't care if their own race uses these words. They don't care if their own race belittles their women like that. The only thing that matters is if a white person says something like this.
This whole situation stinks pretty badly.
Imus vs. the Billboard Hot Rap Tracks Chart
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/007286.htm
Sharpton owned.
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/007286.htm
Sharpton owned.
moshquerade
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Darkstar757
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NFS4,
I honestly dont think you are doing anything to help race relations with this thread at all.
I honestly dont think you are doing anything to help race relations with this thread at all.
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Who said I was? It's not my job.
I just sit back and look at the hypocrisy of the whole situation.
Just b/c I'm black doesn't mean that I should do/act/feel a certain way about something or advocate a certain point. I still laugh when people learn that I can't play basketball
And so called "black leaders" are doing nothing but harm race relations.
This kind of crap makes most people MORE racist because of the ridiculous double standard and "I'm a victim" mentality.
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It's quite pathetic actually. Imus has been making fun of people and saying retarded &^%# for 35 years. That his thing, that's what he does.
I personally think he's an ass for calling the gorgeous Contessa Brewer Miss Piggy adn stupid... and she's an MSNBC employee. Why no calls for firing after that?:
That being said, this is all being blown totally out of proportion and just allows Al Sharpton and his ilk to get black people fired up over sh!t they hear on the radio everyday or that the kids listen to or watch on TV. Calling for the guy to be fired? Pfffff
How often do you get mistaken for Spud Webb?Originally posted by: NFS4
Who said I was? It's not my job.
I just sit back and look at the hypocrisy of the whole situation.
Just b/c I'm black doesn't mean that I should do/act/feel a certain way about something or advocate a certain point. I still laugh when people learn that I can't play basketball
moshquerade
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Here is what Howard Stern has to say about it:
Stern could say what Imus said and not be in this predicament. Funny how that works.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/4/10/112340.shtml?s=al&promo_code=321D-1
Stern could say what Imus said and not be in this predicament. Funny how that works.
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