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asgarkz

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Hi. i want to upgrade win 2003 domain to 2008 R2 domain

My solution:
i want to prepare new server with 2008 R2 OS and then
install new domain with new name and then define clients
to new domain one to one. at last remove win 2003 domain server from network.

please guide me for best way.
 

asgarkz

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We have 1000 clients with windows xp and 50 clients with windows 7.
Our servers work with windows 2008 r2 and windows 2003.

Now, Can I use windows 2012 R2 for Domain server OS?

And, Can I use this domain server for DNS and DHCP operations?

(server config: HP DL380 G5 with 2 Intel x5450 CPU and 32 GB memory)
 

asgarkz

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1. We want to change the naming way and use numbers (e.g. PC124) for Computer Name. Is this applicable?

2. We want to install new domain and then remove old domain.
Microsoft.com recommends installing with below order:
a. Install a new forest
b. Install a new child domain
c. Install a new domain tree
Should I perform this operations or one of them is enough?
 

seepy83

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Please don't take this as an insult... Based on the questions you're asking, you need to hire someone that has experience doing a Domain Migration (not a Domain Upgrade). 1000+ clients is a large installation. Depending on the environment (servers, apps, etc), this could easily be a 12+ month project. The process is going to be too complex, and likely unique to your specific environment, to learn on a message board.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Please don't take this as an insult... Based on the questions you're asking, you need to hire someone that has experience doing a Domain Migration (not a Domain Upgrade). 1000+ clients is a large installation. Depending on the environment (servers, apps, etc), this could easily be a 12+ month project. The process is going to be too complex, and likely unique to your specific environment, to learn on a message board.

This.

There are many complexities to this project that the OP hasn't even mentioned, which makes me suspect he isn't aware of them. You really need to hire someone for some consulting OP.
 

Genx87

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There is no need to build a new domain for this unless you need to change it. Is there a business need to change the domain name?
 

seepy83

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There is no need to build a new domain for this unless you need to change it. Is there a business need to change the domain name?

Right...there is that. I assume they have a legitimate need to migrate to a new domain. Otherwise, this is simple a dcpromo to add a new DC, and some simple clicks to raise the domain/forest functional levels when they're ready to. That stuff is easy. Domain Migrations? Not so easy.
 

asgarkz

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We now use vwxyz.xx for internet domain and use vxyz.com for internal domain.
Can we use internet doamin name for internal domain name?
(This means that we use same name for internal and external domains)
 

Genx87

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We now use vwxyz.xx for internet domain and use vxyz.com for internal domain.
Can we use internet doamin name for internal domain name?
(This means that we use same name for internal and external domains)

You can but it will require you setup static A records in your dns to forward to the external IP address of your website.

Does somebody want your internal domain to match your website?
 

drebo

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We now use vwxyz.xx for internet domain and use vxyz.com for internal domain.
Can we use internet doamin name for internal domain name?
(This means that we use same name for internal and external domains)

Generally recommended to use a subdomain of your Internet domain as your internal AD domain...such as corp.vxyz.com or ad.vxyz.com.
 

EvaCarey

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Hi. i want to upgrade win 2003 domain to 2008 R2 domain

My solution:
i want to prepare new server with 2008 R2 OS and then
install new domain with new name and then define clients
to new domain one to one. at last remove win 2003 domain server from network.

please guide me for best way.

The way you have thought to do this, is completely good. Whenever you are going to replace your old domain with new one, it is very important to delete old one. Before deleting the old domain, check properly that new domain with new server is working properly or not? If yes, then delete the old domain.
 

imagoon

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The way you have thought to do this, is completely good. Whenever you are going to replace your old domain with new one, it is very important to delete old one. Before deleting the old domain, check properly that new domain with new server is working properly or not? If yes, then delete the old domain.

It is also the hard way to do it. A domain should be migrated. Once you are current you can use the MS provided tools to rename it.
 

IndyColtsFan

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It is also the hard way to do it. A domain should be migrated. Once you are current you can use the MS provided tools to rename it.

IIRC, some applications such as Exchange don't support domain renames. I believe that is still the case in Exchange 2013. Not sure if this guy has Exchange or not.
 

imagoon

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IIRC, some applications such as Exchange don't support domain renames. I believe that is still the case in Exchange 2013. Not sure if this guy has Exchange or not.

Exchange supported domain renames from Exchange 2003 SP2 and beyond. You can't rename the Exchange org, but no ones sees that besides that admins.

To be fair 2007/2010 made it a complete PITA so I can see your point. However at that point would you really want to completely rebuild Exchange from scratch also just to migrate?
 
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IndyColtsFan

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Exchange supported domain renames from Exchange 2003 SP2 and beyond. You can't rename the Exchange org, but no ones sees that besides that admins.

To be fair 2007/2010 made it a complete PITA so I can see your point. However at that point would you really want to completely rebuild Exchange from scratch also just to migrate?

Yeah, I'll have to look into that a little more. I knew it was supported in Exchange 2003 but I thought MS officially "unsupported" domain renames in Exchange starting with 2007.