DoJ to propose internet wiretaps bill

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SlickSnake

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The costs for companies to implement this capability will of course be dropped right back onto the consumer.

BTW, here at Anandtech forums, you should all be aware that this capability has been set up, and all of your private messages here at the forums are ready to be collected for government use if or when it is required. All messages have been backed up, so no need to delete them now.

Is there humor in irony?

Why even bother to back them up at all when everyone knows Big Brother already has all the forum data on file thanks to telecoms allowing clandestine monitoring of all communications including the internet? Of course, this forum isn't really private in any way anyhow, so the threat of data collection here is a moot point, isn't it? Big Bro already has all your precious forums you lord over continuously downloading into their black project data bases as soon as anyone even posts here, making even deleting a misspoken post just another useless endeavor.

I spent a good hour writing about this 1984 pork bill, then just deleted the rest of it because I feel a lot of you posting here are just pointless government patsy's laughably trying to illicit anti-government comments for your big brother masters to collate and digest in the stinking bowels of some bottomless black hole secret agency with no accountability or oversight to prohibit abuses to legality or power what so ever.
 
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gevorg

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bamacre

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Is there humor in irony?

Why even bother to back them up at all when everyone knows Big Brother already has all the forum data on file thanks to telecoms allowing clandestine monitoring of all communications including the internet? Of course, this forum isn't really private in any way anyhow, so the threat of data collection here is a moot point, isn't it? Big Bro already has all your precious forums you lord over continuously downloading into their black project data bases as soon as anyone even posts here, making even deleting a misspoken post just another useless endeavor.

I spent a good hour writing about this 1984 pork bill, then just deleted the rest of it because I feel a lot of you posting here are just pointless government patsy's laughably trying to illicit anti-government comments for your big brother masters to collate and digest in the stinking bowels of some bottomless black hole secret agency with no accountability or oversight to prohibit abuses to legality or power what so ever.

Dude, it was a joke.

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techs

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Where are the Republicans/Tea Baggers when you need them?
More needless government regulation.
 

brxndxn

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I cannot imagine how they would enforce this.. I am sure they would be technically unable to enforce backdoors in all software anyway.. So all you would have is mainstream law-abiding companies have to spend extra time and effort complying while rogue companies continue to offer yet more and more underground communications.

But then again.. why should secure communications ever have to be underground? Is the government position that they should be able to monitor all communications?
 

CycloWizard

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I cannot imagine how they would enforce this.. I am sure they would be technically unable to enforce backdoors in all software anyway.. So all you would have is mainstream law-abiding companies have to spend extra time and effort complying while rogue companies continue to offer yet more and more underground communications.

But then again.. why should secure communications ever have to be underground? Is the government position that they should be able to monitor all communications?
This is the nature of all restrictive laws and regulations: only those playing by the rules will be penalized by the additional effort required to play by the rules. Meanwhile, the bootleggers, gun smugglers, and drug dealers get rich, the meth heads blow themselves up, and the rest of us just shake our heads.
 

dguy6789

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The internet's a public place no different from any other. It's about time that people start being held accountable for their actions on it.
 

piasabird

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This sounds like an unfunded mandate that will just increase costs for online providers. It is not like users all have static connections that only belong to one user. This is very hard to implement from a hardware perspective but may be easier from a software perspective. The problem is it would involve spying on every site a person visits, plus every user at a site. It might be easier to mandate that everyone's browsing history be saved. With the amount of traffic on the internet this is not very feasable. I could see this being valid for Skype or something like that.

I am not really in favor of this at all. Why make it easier for these people that just want to go fishing for dirt on their enemies. So if you visit a site overseas, then that means the CIA has jurisdiction and not the FBI. This whole area of law is full of legal loopholes and problems.
 
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