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The opinion of the pathetic is of little worth, but then again your luck holds out. You are too stupid to know it and so, full of glee and bombast, and without the slightest self reflection, you continue to play the part of a titanically supercilious and smug ass.
Let's see here. You appoint yourself as the moral authority in this forum and wave your little finger around, consistantly call anyone you don't agree with "stupid," spew billious tripe that sounds like it comes from a 10th grade philospher wannabe, constantly overestimate your own intelligence, consider yourself superior to everyone else, and then deign to call another a "titanically supercilious and smug ass."

lol. That's fucking rich beyond all belief. Seems your problem, Moonbeam, is that you reflect, but you don't absorb a damn thing. It's clearly beyond your capacity to do so and it will always leave you severely lacking in life.
 

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In terms of absorbing anything TLC, you are a poster child for self delusion.

And while I may be disappointed that the current Department of Justice has declined to prosecute Cheney, Bisbee, Yoo, and a pile of other rascals, I can only say two things.
(1) Given the current political partisan divide, now may not be the time to properly address the problem. (2) The can is only kicked down the road while the various rascals
still dangle slowly in the wind. As new damning documents are discovered, and America
gets a fuller perspective, the time may yet come when a DOJ or other domestic prosecutor does indict them and put them on trial. And if the prosecution is US based, double jeopardy would apply, if found innocent, like OJ Simpson, they would be off the hook in terms of re trail. But if the prosecution comes from foreign sources like the Hague or similar, their fate would be decided under different rules.

In short, its not yet time for either side of this thread to declare any final victory, but sooner or later, this nation must address the problem. Or suffer the consequences that will make all of us less safe as Al-Quida gains new recruits.
 
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In terms of absorbing anything TLC, you are a poster child for self delusion.

And while I may be disappointed that the current Department of Justice has declined to prosecute Cheney, Bisbee, Yoo, and a pile of other rascals, I can only say two things.
(1) Given the current political partisan divide, now may not be the time to properly address the problem. (2) The can is only kicked down the road while the various rascals
still dangle slowly in the wind. As new damning documents are discovered, and America
gets a fuller perspective, the time may yet come when a DOJ or other domestic prosecutor does indict them and put them on trial. And if the prosecution is US based, double jeopardy would apply, if found innocent, like OJ Simpson, they would be off the hook in terms of re trail. But if the prosecution comes from foreign sources like the Hague or similar, their fate would be decided under different rules.

In short, its not yet time for either side of this thread to declare any final victory, but sooner or later, this nation must address the problem. Or suffer the consequences that will make all of us less safe as Al-Quida gains new recruits.
What new damning documents? Now you're just making things up and basing your desires on nothing more than vaporous speculation and partisan daydreaming. If nothing happens now, nothing ever will. The Statute of Limitations is running out and it already has expired for some. So you can flush your fervent partisan desires right down the toilet already. It is over and you need to get over it.
 

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The Statute of Limitations is running out and it already has expired for some. So you can flush your fervent partisan desires right down the toilet already. It is over and you need to get over it.

Good point.

Looking around it seems that most Fed statutes of limitation expire after 5 years. If these memo's are from '02 it seems too late. Of course, since no crimes have been charged can't really know what statute would apply, or when the alleged criminal act was committed.

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To Fern and others, I would not be so swift to place any faith in statute of limitations, when in general, murder and international war crimes carry statute of limitations that never expire.

Just food for thought, shall we consider those who died before prosecution innocent, it may have worked for Ken Lay and his wife in the USA, but it hardly worked in terms of the judgment of history for Hitler. And even in the former Soviet Union, Joe Stalin is still regarded as a villain.
 

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To Fern and others, I would not be so swift to place any faith in statute of limitations, when in general, murder and international war crimes carry statute of limitations that never expire.

Just food for thought, shall we consider those who died before prosecution innocent, it may have worked for Ken Lay and his wife in the USA, but it hardly worked in terms of the judgment of history for Hitler. And even in the former Soviet Union, Joe Stalin is still regarded as a villain.

Ummm, yeah those two lawyers are gonna go down in history as villians equal to Hitler and Stalin :rollyeyes;

But the issue is not a matter of "placing faith", it's an objective question of fact.

I think it beyond a stretch to claim they can be charged with murder for drafting legal opinions. Maybe charged as accessories before the fact? Don't know, but if so the pricipal in the murder must be tried and convicted before an accessory can be tried. So who is it that we must charge and convict 1st?

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TastesLikeChicken: Let's see here. You appoint yourself as the moral authority in this forum

M: Since you know nothing about yourself and intuit about reality even less I should perhaps point out to you that nobody can appoint themselves a moral authority even of this forum, well maybe the mods can, that, in other words, it is in fact you, because of your unrecognized inferiority complex that cedes that authority to me. You, like the guilty child that you feel yourself to be, can't help but experience, around a morally sound person like myself and others here, an objective realization of your actual moral inferiority, and like the juvenile delinquent that you also are, you can't help but throw a tantrum and complain I have my nose in the air. Actually, you stuck your nose in your own ass and think you smell me. Such is the way of fools.

TLC: and wave your little finger around, consistently call anyone you don't agree with "stupid," spew billious tripe that sounds like it comes from a 10th grade philospher wannabe, constantly overestimate your own intelligence, consider yourself superior to everyone else, and then deign to call another a "titanically supercilious and smug ass."

M: See, you think it is I who waves a finger around but from just these words we can all see it is you who is doing the waving.


TLC: lol. That's fucking rich beyond all belief. Seems your problem, Moonbeam, is that you reflect, but you don't absorb a damn thing. It's clearly beyond your capacity to do so and it will always leave you severely lacking in life.

M: No, sadly for you I reflect real good. That's why I got that clown for an icon, so you'd know right away who you are.

Now it's your turn to reaffirm with a new reply the fact that you're to stupid to see any of this.
 
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M: Since you know nothing about yourself and intuit about reality even less I should perhaps....[snipped]
More 10th grade philosopher wannabe Loonbeam psychobabble. :yawn:

M: See, you think it is I who waves a finger around but from just these words we can all see it is you who is doing the waving.
We've seen it alright. All one has to do is take a look at your post history in here. It's loaded with finder-waving and looking down your nose at others. I'm simply pointing out the reality of who and what you really are.

M: No, sadly for you I reflect real good. That's why I got that clown for an icon, so you'd know right away who you are.

Now it's your turn to reaffirm with a new reply the fact that you're to stupid to see any of this.
Keep on stroking yourself, Moonie. You continue to reaffirm everything I said about you with every reply you make. No doubt your next reply will continue down that same tiresome old path of lunacy and idiocy. You're stuck in the same rut and have dug it so deep you can't even so over the top any longer to view what reality is
 

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More 10th grade philosopher wannabe Loonbeam psychobabble. :yawn:


We've seen it alright. All one has to do is take a look at your post history in here. It's loaded with finder-waving and looking down your nose at others. I'm simply pointing out the reality of who and what you really are.


Keep on stroking yourself, Moonie. You continue to reaffirm everything I said about you with every reply you make. No doubt your next reply will continue down that same tiresome old path of lunacy and idiocy. You're stuck in the same rut and have dug it so deep you can't even so over the top any longer to view what reality is

Why would I bother to stroke myself when I have you standing beside me?

You'd make a moron look good. I'd even be hard to notice owning to the size of your ass.

But tell me more about my eyes. I'm profoundly insecure and need the attention. Ahahahaha
 
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Why would I bother to stroke myself when I have you standing beside me?

You'd make a moron look good. I'd even be hard to notice owning to the size of your ass.
Allegedly I'm standing beside you and it hasn't made you look good. So much for that theory, eh?

But tell me more about my eyes. I'm profoundly insecure and need the attention. Ahahahaha
It's healthy to make fun about the truths of yourself. I believe psychiatrists refer to it as a coping mechanism.
 

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I heard that Yoo had written and released three books during the period he was being investigated. That's pretty impressive - but then I suppose he had the time.

Got to salute Moonie for holding such a long argument with TastesLikeChicken. If fact, in half of his posts he carries on both sides of the argument, which if done out loud can get you three days observation at the least. Kudos, Moonie.
 

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Allegedly I'm standing beside you and it hasn't made you look good. So much for that theory, eh?


It's healthy to make fun about the truths of yourself. I believe psychiatrists refer to it as a coping mechanism.

Ah but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. To you I look ugle so you have ugly eyes, eyes full of ugliness that you see.

But Oh my Beloved, wherever I look it appears to be Thou. I am the beauty I see.