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nerp

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Originally posted by: CoinOperatedBoy
Originally posted by: bloodugly
I think we humans are doing far worse to the world than any cat. Or is human life more valuable than another animal's?

Yes, human life is more valuable. I hope you're either a vegan or that you cry whenever you eat a piece of chicken.

No shit. Hell, the cat doesn't give a fuck about the mouse. Does the cat gaze into the poor mouse's eyes? Why should we treat the cat any better than the cat treats the mouse? Besides, if it weren't for food, the cats would say "fuck this guy, I'm shitting in his lawn."

 

bloodugly

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Hey, go ahead, getting anyone to do anything quickly is about as likely as sprouting wings around here :)
 

bloodugly

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OK, I'm done with this. I disagree with most of you, but that's fine. I thank you all for your opinions and the back-and-forth. Take care.
 

CoinOperatedBoy

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Originally posted by: nerp
Hmm, didn't take much investigation to track down the OP's address and basic info. Should I be evil and call animal control and report a huge feral population problem in his hood? Eh, I got more important shit to do. Would make the thread pretty interesting, though. :D

Hahaha... a funny thought, but don't do that. It's on the OP's neighbors to do that when the strays become a nuisance.
 

Born2bwire

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Originally posted by: nerp
Hmm, didn't take much investigation to track down the OP's address and basic info. Should I be evil and call animal control and report a huge feral population problem in his hood? Eh, I got more important shit to do. Would make the thread pretty interesting, though. :D

Shit, call the cops and tell them that you saw a guy releasing cats from cages out of his car into the neighborhood. Do the community a favor, mate.
 

Soundmanred

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I'm sorry to say, but your ideas, while seemingly having good intentions, are misguided and will ultimately do much more harm than good.
I've worked with the local animal shelter for almost 8 years and nobody there would agree with what you are doing. I've worked with members of the SPCA and (unfortunately) PETA. PETA may agree with you, but they are as nutty as the media portray them to be. :(
I understand you want to help, but trust me, it's not helping.
We have a few no kill shelters in the area. When they get full, they bring the overflow to us to euthanize them so they can say that they don't euthanize at their facility.
No kill shelters, while sounding good, simply don't work and most aren't run as intended from inception. When they become full, they either turn away animals or the animals are sent to us to do their "dirty work". They aren't magical places that can hold more and more adoptable animals until they can go to a suitable home. It's a eutopian idea with no basis in reality.
Sadly, we have to live in a reality. It's why shelters and other places are a very sad place to work 90% of the time, because we work in a reality and its limits on what we can do. Most of the volunteers we get quit very quickly after realizing this, and how many animals we have to euthanize.
In reality, you are causing the shelters and the public to work harder to maintain a realistic balance and your plan (while goodhearted) is not a good one.
I did ask an ACO and she said that you would be fined for doing what you are doing (at least in this municipality).
Sorry to be the voice of experience and reality. :(
 

bloodugly

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These cats are less than a half mile from where I live anyways. The only thing I might be doing to increase the population is just giving them a better diet and keeping them from major traffic. Say I'm stupid, or misguided, or whatever..that's fine. Its just in my nature to not be ok with animals living in great danger and barely eating enough to live. Sorry. I thank you all for your opinions, really I do. Last post on this.
 

CoinOperatedBoy

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Originally posted by: bloodugly
These cats are less than a half mile from where I live anyways. The only thing I might be doing to increase the population is just giving them a better diet and keeping them from major traffic. Say I'm stupid, or misguided, or whatever..that's fine. Its just in my nature to not be ok with animals living in great danger and barely eating enough to live. Sorry. I thank you all for your opinions, really I do. Last post on this.

Cool, but you should attempt to make your "nature" coincide with reality.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: nerp
Hmm, didn't take much investigation to track down the OP's address and basic info. Should I be evil and call animal control and report a huge feral population problem in his hood? Eh, I got more important shit to do. Would make the thread pretty interesting, though. :D

Absolutely you SHOULD do this...be sure to include a link to this thread while you're at it...:D
 

Phoenix86

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Originally posted by: bloodugly
Ok..let me get this straight. I've moved some cats from a place where they'll most likely get runover to my neighborhood where people are happy to feed them, and I'm bad for this? Really?

How many more posts have to answer the question before you get it?

You AREN'T helping.
 

Bryophyte

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: nerp
Hmm, didn't take much investigation to track down the OP's address and basic info. Should I be evil and call animal control and report a huge feral population problem in his hood? Eh, I got more important shit to do. Would make the thread pretty interesting, though. :D

Absolutely you SHOULD do this...be sure to include a link to this thread while you're at it...:D

And tell them that this guy feeds possums, too.

Originally posted by: bloodugly
Not bad. They have as much right to be there as we do. I dealt with possums a lot in the past, we fed them. They weren't diseased or mean, our outdoor cats didn't even mind them, they just watched them. Most wild animals aren't diseased, otherwise they would've become extinct a long time ago.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2340468&enterthread=y
 

Bryophyte

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: bloodugly
Most wild animals aren't diseased, otherwise they would've become extinct a long time ago.

:laugh:[/quote]

Another epic quote from that thread:

Originally posted by: bloodugly
Amazing how often compassion and stupidity go hand and hand :)
 

nerp

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Originally posted by: CoinOperatedBoy
Originally posted by: nerp
Hmm, didn't take much investigation to track down the OP's address and basic info. Should I be evil and call animal control and report a huge feral population problem in his hood? Eh, I got more important shit to do. Would make the thread pretty interesting, though. :D

Hahaha... a funny thought, but don't do that. It's on the OP's neighbors to do that when the strays become a nuisance.

Na, I wouldn't. I already reassured him in PM that being a cuntshoe on ATOT doesn't mean I'd actually try to take it to reality. I'm not the type of person to actually do something like that, plus it would take too much effort. Creepy internet avenger/sociopath dudes are interesting to watch, but I don't want to be one.
 

SmoochyTX

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Originally posted by: bloodugly
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Don't get involved with a stray unless you're willing to get it vaccinated and spayed/neutered. Period. You move these animals to new places and expose the people and their pets to all of the diseases, parasites, and hormonal aggression that come along with the strays. How dare you make this THEIR problem? People who feed unaltered feral cats create MORE pain and suffering by making it possible for the population to grow larger and larger. You take two cute pitiful little stray kitties and in a couple years, you have a hundred. You no longer can afford to feed the population of strays, so they begin to starve to death. In the meantime, they destroy the local songbird populations, spread diseases and parasites, and fight with people's pets.

Housecats are domesticated animals, not wild. Unless they're properly taken care of in a home situation, as a pet, then they are an invasive, nuissance species. It sounds like your local problem is bigger than you can handle on your own. Unless you can recruit others to help, stop with the relocations.

These critters will be breeding anyways, this town is pretty much overrun with strays. I just can't sit by and watch them starve or get run over. Sorry, just how I am. I have talked with a lady here about starting a no-kill shelter though. I hope we can get it running. As much as I agree with the population issue, I still can't just ignore the animals that are already here and watch them suffer.

So if your town is already overrun with strays you want to make it worse? That makes a whole helluva lot of sense.

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