nerp
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- Dec 31, 2005
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Humans created this cat condition. It's our fault for deciding to domesticate them and expecting personal relationships with animals is a decidedly selfish thing. Cats serve no functional role in the ecosystem at this point and it's a product of our own making. Saving stray cats is not heroic nor is it helpful in any way. It simply perpetuates the problem. Calling animal control and paying to have then neutered/spayed is the only thing you can do. Dumping them in a "nice neighborhood" is a dickhead move.
OK, look into the eyes of a stray hungry kitty, wanting a friend. Tell me its a dickhead move. These aren't numbers, these are living animals needing a friend and a provider. Try looking at one in the eye and then think that.
Just because there is no easy solution doeas not make it right to make the problem worse so you can fell better about yourself. Welcome to reality.
alevasseur14
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This 'save the children' routine doesn't really do anything other than convince me you're going to be the person on the block with 64 cats on the property when the city finally evicts you.
I love my two cats but there's no way I'm going to make every cat in this city my problem.
Ok..let me get this straight. I've moved some cats from a place where they'll most likely get runover to my neighborhood where people are happy to feed them, and I'm bad for this? Really?
alevasseur14
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You're avoiding the big picture here. Short term, it's a nice thing to do. Long term, you're creating a wild cat problem that everybody in the neighborhood you bring them to, not just you, has to deal with. In the end, the cats are still wild, are now a problem, and as sad as it is, are still going to die.
Born2bwire
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No you are not. You are just making things worse so that you can feel all warm and fuzzy inside. You're taking these cats, these violent aggressive cats from the cuts, bites and scratches that you already have suffered, and dumping them into your neighborhood. Now they are in competition for territory and food with all the other cats in the neighborhood. Now they're going to fight each other, scratch off their ears, decimate the local wildlife, and pose a danger to the area's pets and residents. You don't get them spayed or neutered to prevent the problem of stray cats. You don't have them checked out by a vet before you let them loose in the neighborhood to make sure they don't have diseases that could be spread to other animals, pets, or residents. You even put your own cats at risk by having more than allowed by the landlord, risking eviction.
Dorkenstein
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Cats can take care of themselves. I love animals, but these creatures in particular got by fine without our intervention before and will continue to do so. Yes, over-breeding and the increase of ferals/strays affects the ecology somewhat and was probably the doing of humans, but you can't expect to save them all. It can't be done. There are far better uses of time and money. And really, you compare this to rescuing human children? That doesn't do much to make people take you seriously.
Remember to clean those cat bites before much time passes, you can get infected from dirty cat mouths pretty easily.
My neighbor who is a weirdo feeds five stray cats. I don't need to expound on the bad things cats do when not controlled, but I am wondering what winter will bring for them. Said neighbor also owns a pitbull, so she won't take the cats in the house. It's possible that the winter will kill a few of the strays. Doesn't break my heart, nor will I intervene. I don't take delight in seeing these "poor starving children" perish in the elements but I've chased them from going to the bathroom and spraying in my barn while I renovate it, and picked up enough nests full of dead uneaten bird chicks that I won't miss them if they do go somewhere else.
Remember to clean those cat bites before much time passes, you can get infected from dirty cat mouths pretty easily.
My neighbor who is a weirdo feeds five stray cats. I don't need to expound on the bad things cats do when not controlled, but I am wondering what winter will bring for them. Said neighbor also owns a pitbull, so she won't take the cats in the house. It's possible that the winter will kill a few of the strays. Doesn't break my heart, nor will I intervene. I don't take delight in seeing these "poor starving children" perish in the elements but I've chased them from going to the bathroom and spraying in my barn while I renovate it, and picked up enough nests full of dead uneaten bird chicks that I won't miss them if they do go somewhere else.
surfsatwerk
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angminas
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Yes. Really.
You have absolutely no clue.
Do you know what kinds of things most strays die from? Starvation, freezing to death, infections, parasites, being mauled by dogs...let me tell you, getting hit by a car is a mercy killing in comparison.
You're not helping the cats. You're not helping the neighbors. You're not helping those who care about you. You're not helping the animals who already live in the neighborhood. The only one who benefits is you, and that's only by being able to tell yourself that you're doing something good and sweet and fluffy when in fact you're unwittingly dooming a lot of cats to slow, painful, lonely deaths.
You are becoming the very thing you think you are defending these cats against.
Alot of local vets will spay/neuter strays for free. This should be your first course of action to prevent them from spawning hundreds more strays.
Really? Is this why they love and cuddle with me, because they are destructive vermin? Yes, they claw and scratch at first, because they're scared. Normal reaction. To just indiscriminately call them destructive vermin is unacceptable. I've taken cats from scared and clawing to loving before, as many have. You just have to get how they think, and go from there.
BoomerD
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- Feb 26, 2006
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If you dumped a bunch of human children in my neighborhood, I'd hunt you down myself and put you out of our misery.
About the last dammed thing I need around here is feral children. The domesticated ones we have here already cause a bunch of damage in the neighborhood.
I'm not sure how the fuck anyone can be so stupid as to think that this is a good thing...or that it's "better for the cats." At least at the convenience store they have dumpsters to graze in, but in the neighborhood, they might starve.
AFAIK, we only have ONE moron in the area who feeds stray cats...and he now has 4 or 5 cats that "live" at his house. (once you feed them they never leave)
I hope that when you gather up all these kittens and start out on your "cat-dumping expedition," you are run over by a large semi-truck.
THAT would be far better than your plan.
THEY ARE NOT FERAL. For fucks sake, do you guys even know what that means? Try getting within 10 feet of a true feral cat, good luck. Live on a TX ranch, you'll see true feral cats. Getting near one is about as likely as getting close to a bobcat. And I'm a moron for feeding strays? How heartless are you. Yes, this keeps the problem going, but they are here, and alive, and hungry, and I'm not heartless. I do what I can given the situation, I can only afford to spay so many. You need to think about how they see life, as we caused their being here. It's not their fault that their species is overpopulated. They are innocent creatures, and we should do what we can for the ones already living. BoomerD, try having some compassion.
alevasseur14
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surfsatwerk
Lifer
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How well the stray cats are socialized has nothing to do with how destructive they are to the local environment. They are wildlife killing, disease harboring fleabags that will breed themselves into starvation.
Interesting, my family has a stray thats about 15years old now. Guess we should've had her killed years ago.
surfsatwerk
Lifer
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One stray cat is not the same thing as intentionally bringing a breeding colony of feral cats into your neighborhood you ignorant twit.
THEY ARE NOT FERAL, do you even know what that means? They are just abandoned. You're the ignorant twit. Try getting near a true Feral cat...good luck.
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