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mfenn

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Hmm, interesting. I've never really worked with dual drives; can't I just throw in the SSD, install Windows on it, then copy over all of that stuff or do I need to put it on an external and copy over from there? Sorry, a real noob with drives as I usually just buy a new one and re-install and download everything clean.

Yeah, you can just install to the new drive. I would leave the HDD unplugged while doing the install though so that Windows doesn't get confused. Also, check out Steam Mover for a simple way to move games between the HDD and SSD.
 

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It will, it's actually the one I was going to recommend as I was reading the posts!

Heh, sweet. Getting kind of excited for it now.

Yeah, you can just install to the new drive. I would leave the HDD unplugged while doing the install though so that Windows doesn't get confused. Also, check out Steam Mover for a simple way to move games between the HDD and SSD.

Cool, thanks. I've heard someone mention that before.

I'm sure I'll be back with more dumb questions. ^_^

KT
 

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:) Couple of SSD tips :

(*)- Check for SSD firmware update before installing windows/etc. Make sure bios is updated as well and set for AHCI mode, which is almost certainly will be by default.

(1)- Don't defrag, lol.

(2)- Reduce system restore points to a fairly low level to save hdd space. Typically SR is just as useful with a couple of points as it is with 20 (you run into a problem, go back to last point, fixed).
 

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:) Couple of SSD tips :

(*)- Check for SSD firmware update before installing windows/etc. Make sure bios is updated as well and set for AHCI mode, which is almost certainly will be by default.

(1)- Don't defrag, lol.

(2)- Reduce system restore points to a fairly low level to save hdd space. Typically SR is just as useful with a couple of points as it is with 20 (you run into a problem, go back to last point, fixed).

*. Dumb guy here, but how exactly do I update the firmware before installing Windows? Do I need to throw it on a USB key or something?

1. Never do anyway! :D

2. Cool, will do. Never really looked at those, but that makes sense. :whiste:

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*. Dumb guy here, but how exactly do I update the firmware before installing Windows? Do I need to throw it on a USB key or something?

Go here :

http://www.crucial.com/support/firmware.aspx

Your drive may or may not have shipped with the latest firmware. Instructions are there in a PDF on that page.

As firmware updates can often reset SSDs to a blank state, it's good to do them before anything is on there if possible.
 

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Go here :

http://www.crucial.com/support/firmware.aspx

Your drive may or may not have shipped with the latest firmware. Instructions are there in a PDF on that page.

As firmware updates can often reset SSDs to a blank state, it's good to do them before anything is on there if possible.

Oh weird, I have to burn a CD; have not done that in ages!

Thanks man. Hopefully I will be up and running on the weekend! :awe:

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OK, got the mobo, CPU, and GPU up an running with no issues.

Unfortunately as I went to flash the SSD I realized my old DVD drive is IDE and this mobo does not have an IDE port, so I need to go buy a new drive.

My question is, is it worth spending the $100 for a Blu-ray drive? I'm leaning towards it, but not sure there is any point. It seems like most of the ones around here are straight SATA, does it matter if they are not SATA2 or 3?

Thanks guys, almost there! ^_^

KT
 

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Who talked you into a 1200w power supply for a 5770? lol

That's a nice upgrade.

Lol no I bought that PSU ages ago when I had crossfired 2900XTs running. Probably still overkill, but it takes everything I can throw at it so I don't have to ever think about power.

KT
 

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Who talked you into a 1200W power supply for crossfired 2900XT's :X
 

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A lot of people manage without optical drives, using usb2 or 3 thumb drives.
Blu Ray can be great for data back up, or not, you need software to play Blu Ray commercial movies.
DVD SATA burners are about $20 on sale.
 

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OK, got the mobo, CPU, and GPU up an running with no issues.

Unfortunately as I went to flash the SSD I realized my old DVD drive is IDE and this mobo does not have an IDE port, so I need to go buy a new drive.

My question is, is it worth spending the $100 for a Blu-ray drive? I'm leaning towards it, but not sure there is any point. It seems like most of the ones around here are straight SATA, does it matter if they are not SATA2 or 3?

Thanks guys, almost there! ^_^

KT

$85 if you want to burn Blu-Rays or $62 if you want to read Blu-Rays and burn DVDs. Whether or not that is worth those amounts depends on how much you want to watch Blu-Ray movies on your PC I guess.

And no, it doesn't matter what SATA spec they support, reading from the media is far slower than the 1.5Gb/s SATA transfer limit.
 

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Thanks guys, I just went ahead and grabbed the Blu-ray burner. I'm sure I'll find a use for it.

Everything is up and running now; everything going smoothly. The SSD is nice I guess, I mean Windows loads pretty quickly, but I'm not sure I really care about saving a few seconds. Oh well, whatever. In fact it's almost just more of a pain in the ass now because I have to go into the BIOS in order to boot my main drive? Is there a better way to set this up?

Also, is there a setting I need to change in order to be able to move things from my "User" folder on my old drive over to the SSD? I tried to move my Chrome bookmarks over last night, but it would not allow me to access that particular group of folders.

Thanks again for all of the assistance.

KT
 

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What do you mean, "go into the BIOS in order to boot my main drive"? Did you not install Windows to the SSD? If Windows is installed on the SSD and the SSD is listed first in the boot order, it should boot from it every time.

As for accessing files on your old drive, most likely the problem is that the NTFS permissions on those folders are still referring to your user account on your old Windows install. You need to take ownership of your old user directory (Properties->Security->Advanced) and then you will be able to access the files. Note that this will completely break your old Windows install (not that you should need it).
 

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What do you mean, "go into the BIOS in order to boot my main drive"? Did you not install Windows to the SSD? If Windows is installed on the SSD and the SSD is listed first in the boot order, it should boot from it every time.

As for accessing files on your old drive, most likely the problem is that the NTFS permissions on those folders are still referring to your user account on your old Windows install. You need to take ownership of your old user directory (Properties->Security->Advanced) and then you will be able to access the files. Note that this will completely break your old Windows install (not that you should need it).

Yeah it boots automatically from the SSD each time, but if/when I need to boot from my old 1TB drive, is the only way to do that to go into the BIOS and change the priorities so it's first?

What do you mean by break my old install? Does that just mean I will not be able to boot from it?

Also, is there a good free software for viewing Blu-rays on my new drive?

:)

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Yeah it boots automatically from the SSD each time, but if/when I need to boot from my old 1TB drive, is the only way to do that to go into the BIOS and change the priorities so it's first?

Yes, if you want to boot from the old drive.

What do you mean by break my old install? Does that just mean I will not be able to boot from it?

Well, you will probably still be able to boot, you just won't be able to log in as that user, or if you can log in, stuff will be majorly weird due to inaccessible files. Changing the ownership won't do anything to the files themselves though.

Also, is there a good free software for viewing Blu-rays on my new drive?

Encrypted (i.e. commerical) Blu-rays? Not that I know of, and there will probably never be due to the licensing fees involved.
 

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When I set up a friend of mine with a new 30GB SSD and Windows 7, I set it up so that he could choose to boot his old XP install on his 750GB HD, by selecting that drive in the BIOS as the boot drive.

Well, as luck would have it, we needed to copy a file from the old XP install, from his user folders, to Win7. Navigating to that folder, from within Win7, brought up a dialog prompting to change permissions, etc., to gain access.

I was worried that after doing so, that he wouldn't be able to access his filees under XP, but we tested that, and it worked fine.

So, apparently, Win7 ADDS permissions, but doesn't screw up the old permissions too badly.
 

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Yes, if you want to boot from the old drive.

Well, you will probably still be able to boot, you just won't be able to log in as that user, or if you can log in, stuff will be majorly weird due to inaccessible files. Changing the ownership won't do anything to the files themselves though.

Encrypted (i.e. commerical) Blu-rays? Not that I know of, and there will probably never be due to the licensing fees involved.

Sorry, that last part was a dumb question. Realized last night that I had not looked at the disc that came with my new drive and it came with PowerDVD which allows me to play Blus. ^_^

I'll give the ownership thing a try tonight. I think I need to flash my BIOS too as my USB connected devices are acting very strangely, it is very annoying. :\

KT