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Doh! Caught by red light traffic camera.

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Qacer

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$158 for Failure to Comply with a Steady Red Signal. Basically, I'm thinking this is similar to a rolling stop. This is what this traffic violation looks like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLwl9F1oJnY
(The blue car making a right turn is the subject.)

Oh well. So much for having a clean record. There are no points assessed for this violation, which is a good thing. The other half was actually the one who committed the infraction, but I guess since the car is registered under my name, then it's on my record.
 
Yup, I did the "California roll" and got fined as running on red. $375 for fixing Cali, $30 to traffic class. I ended up going to comedy traffic school, quite a blast.
I was caught by popo.
 
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There's this awesome piece of technology that is now standard on most vehicles that most just don't know about, but when you activate it, you don't even need to worry about red light cameras.

Brakes.
 
Qacer said:
$158 for Failure to Comply with a Steady Red Signal. Basically, I'm thinking this is similar to a rolling stop. This is what this traffic violation looks like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLwl9F1oJnY
(The blue car making a right turn is the subject.)

Oh well. So much for having a clean record. There are no points assessed for this violation, which is a good thing. The other half was actually the one who committed the infraction, but I guess since the car is registered under my name, then it's on my record.
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MAYBE. You can fight it if it comes in your name. All you have to do is prove that it wasn't YOU driving...you don't have to tell them who actually was.
 
BoomerD said:
MAYBE. You can fight it if it comes in your name. All you have to do is prove that it wasn't YOU driving...you don't have to tell them who actually was.
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I was at work, which is 10 miles away, when this happened.

It's quite common to actually see people do a similar maneuver (i.e., rolling stop before turning on red) when the main traffic on the turned lane is still stopped or when there is no traffic. Also, in FL, we are allowed to turn right on red and most do not fully stop either. They just slow down a little bit before turning, as long as the turned lane is clear.
 
They put up a speed/stop light cam by a school around town, and if you are making a right on red (allowed) it will tag you EVEN IF you where stopped before moving.

It's great from the stand point of it making it safer for the kids walking to and from school (people speed like crazy through there), but that thing is going to get smashed by some angry highschoolers if they don't tweak the settings on it.
 
If you watch the video posted on the OP there is a sign like this.
Not sure how this is so hard to comply with.

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Yeah I always come to a full stop. Never been hit with it but it's just something I do. And I've never lived where there are those cameras. I guess people in the cities drive a lot more fucked up and commonly do that.
 
Red Squirrel said:
There's this awesome piece of technology that is now standard on most vehicles that most just don't know about, but when you activate it, you don't even need to worry about red light cameras.

Brakes.
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There is this awesome piece of technology available to cities and municipalities, it's called a red light timer. If they set it to a reasonable 4 seconds instead of 2 seconds people don't have to worry about hesitating and running the red or getting rear ended.

If only they'd spend the money otherwise used for cameras on a simple engineering work-over for the intersection it might actually make the intersections safer.

There is a camera I pass through everyday to work and it has a 2second yellow. I have never gotten tagged by it in 3 years but I have seen in person 50+ get tagged by this particular camera. Do you know the secret? It's called floor the gas or slam on the brakes when the light changes.

SAFETY

The yellow and red lights are circa 1950 and half the diameter of normal stop lights, atop a hill, that is often glaring in the sun. But I'm glad they spent $1million on the camera because I'm sure some new light housings and LED lights and a new timing box that does something other than 2 second yellows for a tough intersection is just too much to ask.
 
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Qacer said:
$158 for Failure to Comply with a Steady Red Signal.
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Damn, did not even attempt to apply brakes.

$158 is cheap, where was this?

$500 plus bullshit fees here and it goes on your record.

Two of these within a year and lose your license for a year.
 
They just started installing these in our area (Daytona), they have also posted signs stating that red light is enforced by camera, problem is now one has to be super careful around these intersections as folks are now slamming on the brakes on the yellow and if you too close or not paying attention it's easy to rear-end someone. IMO it's a means to generate revenue, the company installs the cameras for free then splits the proceeds with the county..
 
That turn would've been a yield around my area. Those dedicated right turn lanes at a traffic light are always marked with a yield sign... I might've made the same mistake if I wasn't paying attention.


BUTCH1 said:
They just started installing these in our area (Daytona), they have also posted signs stating that red light is enforced by camera, problem is now one has to be super careful around these intersections as folks are now slamming on the brakes on the yellow and if you too close or not paying attention it's easy to rear-end someone. IMO it's a means to generate revenue, the company installs the cameras for free then splits the proceeds with the county..
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I noticed that the yellow lights are much shorter now that it's enforced by camera than before. I get nervous as fuck when entering these intersections because I almost always catch the yellow, so I have to either risk a fine or step hard on the brakes hoping the guy behind me is paying attention. Luckily, no tickets or accidents so far.

But yea, these monitored traffic lights cause more problems than they solve, imo.
 
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Qacer said:
$158 for Failure to Comply with a Steady Red Signal. Basically, I'm thinking this is similar to a rolling stop. This is what this traffic violation looks like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLwl9F1oJnY
(The blue car making a right turn is the subject.)

Oh well. So much for having a clean record. There are no points assessed for this violation, which is a good thing. The other half was actually the one who committed the infraction, but I guess since the car is registered under my name, then it's on my record.
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Yep it sucks. The sad thing is the person whose name the car is registered in, is the one who gets the ticket. I got one last year for my wife. It is kinda cool when you log in and see the video though.
 
Towns that install red light cameras, like to shorten the time from Yellow to Red. This way it generates revenue for them. But it is in violation of traffic engineering standards for light times. Check out the website here: http://www.motorists.org/ .... http://www.motorists.org/red-light-cameras/
They want to know about areas where these cameras are being used unfairly. They can and do fight the cities where they are and sometimes, get the timers set properly or cameras removed.
 
In most places they are civil fines and do not go on your record at all, either drivers license or criminal.

These things cause more wrecks than they stop and should be banned, I hate them with a passion.
 
bruceb said:
Towns that install red light cameras, like to shorten the time from Yellow to Red. This way it generates revenue for them. But it is in violation of traffic engineering standards for light times. Check out the website here: http://www.motorists.org/ .... http://www.motorists.org/red-light-cameras/
They want to know about areas where these cameras are being used unfairly. They can and do fight the cities where they are and sometimes, get the timers set properly or cameras removed.
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Yup, got one of these near my parents house. Yellow right turn arrow was like 2 seconds or less. Tried to fight it by mail trial, but of course it came back guilty. Over $400 after fees. I've since read the city was found to not be complying with the laws at several intersections as well. And also one intersection produced over $1 million in fines in one month.

Also heard on the news the lawmakers are voting whether or not to keep them here, as studies have shown accidents have increased since red light cameras were installed. See a yellow, better slam on those brakes.
 
bruceb said:
Towns that install red light cameras, like to shorten the time from Yellow to Red. This way it generates revenue for them. But it is in violation of traffic engineering standards for light times. Check out the website here: http://www.motorists.org/ .... http://www.motorists.org/red-light-cameras/
They want to know about areas where these cameras are being used unfairly. They can and do fight the cities where they are and sometimes, get the timers set properly or cameras removed.
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In your town maybe, but in my town its bullshit. The yellows are just as long if not longer. People like to go through reds and they do it so much the cops cant keep up with them. Thats why we have cameras.
 
I always thought those type of tickets had to have a face picture as well....
Under the logic that the ticket goes to the registered user, shouldn't all tickets go to the registered car owner?
 
illusion88 said:
I always thought those type of tickets had to have a face picture as well....
Under the logic that the ticket goes to the registered user, shouldn't all tickets go to the registered car owner?
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Yea here they must have a clear picture, and its supposed to match the owner's license or it is not supposed to be mailed out.
 
boomhower said:
In most places they are civil fines and do not go on your record at all, either drivers license or criminal.

These things cause more wrecks than they stop and should be banned, I hate them with a passion.
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I wonder if that is the case in Michigan? We've also got tickets that the state doesn't assign points to, but the insurance companies do. Like impeding traffic, cops usually give you one of these to cut you a break, but some insurance companies have caught on and even though the state doesn't give you points the ins. companies do.
 
I got a warning for one of those, I stopped, but was in front of the white line because there was a big SUV in the left turn lane blocking my view of the traffic. I just don't use that intersection anymore.
 
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