Dog The Bounty Hunter Calls Stand Your Ground Laws 'Bull Crap'

Oldgamer

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Interesting interview with this famous bounty hunter. He makes some points on the use of tasers and other things from his life experiences and feels that the "Stand your ground laws" are excuses to murder people.

He is Republican btw.

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Link to short interview
 
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Someone who makes their living chasing down criminals isn't in favor of a law that gives people the benefit of the doubt to shoot people who they perceive as a threat? How is that surprising?
 

HamburgerBoy

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Not to mention that it's a little different when it's a ripped dude with his strapping young sons all wearing body armor while on camera chasing down criminals with pepper spray, vs one middle aged guy of average strength getting jumped and beaten by some random thug.
 

Bitek

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Not to mention that it's a little different when it's a ripped dude with his strapping young sons all wearing body armor while on camera chasing down criminals with pepper spray, vs one middle aged guy of average strength getting jumped and beaten by some random thug.

Are you saying bullets are for pussies? Real men go nonlethal?

Dog is a strange cat, but you can't say he's not a baddass
 
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Bitek

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Still trying to understand how he has no valid opinion of what it takes to stop/put down hostile and aggressive people.

He is pointing out there are highly effective ways to stop people without having to murder them, esp by civilians. Hell of a lot less legal risk too.

Ie bullets are for hacks
 

HamburgerBoy

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Still trying to understand how he has no valid opinion of what it takes to stop/put down hostile and aggressive people.

He is pointing out there are highly effective ways to stop people without having to murder them, esp by civilians. Hell of a lot less legal risk too.

Ie bullets are for hacks

For some people under some circumstances. How often do home invaders get scared off at the door because someone fired mace at them? I'm sure you'd call any woman that was raped a hack because her one-shot taser missed.
 

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what if someone with an open carry permit looks threatening to someone in one of those stand your ground states?
 

rommelrommel

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Still trying to understand how he has no valid opinion of what it takes to stop/put down hostile and aggressive people.

He is pointing out there are highly effective ways to stop people without having to murder them, esp by civilians. Hell of a lot less legal risk too.

Ie bullets are for hacks

Self defence isn't murder.

The alternatives to bullets are not "highly effective" either... Especially if the guy you're trying to subdue is armed.

He's a dumb fuck showboat who takes on generally non violent druggies 5vs1 at a time and place of his choosing. He knows less than nothing about self defence and listening to him is a good way to get yourself killed.
 

waggy

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Ain't mace illegal in some states?

not that i care what he has to say. how he feels (or anyone else here) about guns has no bearing on what i keep to protect my family.
 

irishScott

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Self defence isn't murder.

The alternatives to bullets are not "highly effective" either... Especially if the guy you're trying to subdue is armed.

He's a dumb fuck showboat who takes on generally non violent druggies 5vs1 at a time and place of his choosing. He knows less than nothing about self defence and listening to him is a good way to get yourself killed.

This. When was the last time he was caught off guard against an armed opponent, off camera?
 
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irishScott

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what if someone with an open carry permit looks threatening to someone in one of those stand your ground states?

Then I guess we need a whole set of legal precedent to determine what constitutes a lethal threat... oh wait we've only got 2 and a half centuries of that.
 

irishScott

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Are you saying bullets are for pussies? Real men go nonlethal?

Dog is a strange cat, but you can't say he's not a baddass

All right, how's this for a scenario? Best part: It's real.

At an intersection I've literally walked through thousands of times without issue, earlier this spring a man was physically assaulted, robbed at gunpoint, kicked and curb-stomped by the robber's 4 other friends, in that order, at about 1 am. He survived but with serious injuries and numerous broken bones. When was the last time the Dog was in that scenario or any scenario like that, and how would he have "badassedly" handled the situation without a gun? Pepper spray?

For that matter when the last time the Dog encountered someone willing to shoot him?

Anyone who listens to the Dog for self defense advice are in the same camp that listen to Bear Grills for survival advice.
 
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Oldgamer

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All right, how's this for a scenario? Best part: It's real.

At an intersection I've literally walked through thousands of times without issue, earlier this spring a man was physically assaulted, robbed at gunpoint, kicked and curb-stomped by the robber's 4 other friends, in that order, at about 1 am. He survived but with serious injuries and numerous broken bones. When was the last time the Dog was in that scenario or any scenario like that, and how would he have "badassedly" handled the situation without a gun? Pepper spray?

For that matter when the last time the Dog encountered someone willing to shoot him?

Anyone who listens to the Dog for self defense advice are in the same camp that listen to Bear Grills for survival advice.


Dog the Bounty Hunter gets shot at

Dog gets shot at a second time on reality TV show
 

HamburgerBoy

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That's the same story, and reading the second article...

The Gazette reports that Dog might be prone to exxageration as it was initially reported to police that Nguyen was packing a machine gun, though there was no evidence of this. It also doesn't help his case that his crew failed to catch footage of the attempted shooting. But the bounty hunter eventually got his man.

After taking a shot at Dog, Nguyen made his escape on a motorcycle. He remained at large until about 1 a.m. Wednesday morning when Dog tracked him down and arrested him without incident. For his part, the toughest thing in Dog's arsenal was something the police called a "paintball gun" that he says has been modified to shoot pepper spray. I'm having a hard time visualizing it, but yeah, taking on armed criminals with a paintball gun just seems like a bad idea.

lol. Even if it was a real gun, the fact is that he was still pursuing someone, not getting caught by surprise.
 

irishScott

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Those are the same story. So he got shot at once, by some scared guy he was actively chasing.

So someone was willing to shoot Dog, missed, and wasn't willing to shoot him again? Sounds like Dog got pretty lucky and was able to maintain the initiative. Also sounds like the guy he was chasing had no real willingness to kill. In any case I'm positive his "bullet replacement" pepper spray and/or taser didn't do jack.
 
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xj0hnx

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Who gives a shit what some mullet clad hold over from the 80's thinks about anything?
 

irishScott

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Who gives a shit what some mullet clad hold over from the 80's thinks about anything?

Huffington Post apparently. They're really scraping the bottom of the barrel to find a "conservative" who supports their position. I guess they finally learned the "I'm a hunter and a member of the Brady campaign, so you should relate to me!" thing wasn't working.
 

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Anyone who listens to the Dog for self defense advice are in the same camp that listen to Bear Grills for survival advice.

Bear Grylls

After leaving school, Grylls briefly considered joining the Indian Army and hiked in the Himalayan mountains of Sikkim and West Bengal.[19] Eventually, Grylls joined the Territorial Army and, after passing selection, served as a reservist with the SAS in 21 SAS Regiment (Artists) (Reserve), for three years until 1997.

In 1996, he suffered a freefall parachuting accident in Zambia. His canopy ripped at 4,900 metres (16,000 ft), partially opening, causing him to fall and land on his parachute pack on his back, which partially crushed three vertebrae. Grylls later said: "I should have cut the main parachute and gone to the reserve but thought there was time to resolve the problem".[20] According to his surgeon, Grylls came "within a whisker" of being paralysed for life and at first it was questionable whether he would ever walk again. Grylls spent the next 12 months in and out of military rehabilitation at Headley Court[20] before being discharged from his medical treatment and directing his efforts into trying to get well enough to fulfil his childhood dream of climbing Mount Everest.

In 2004, Grylls was previously awarded the honorary rank of lieutenant commander in the Royal Naval Reserve;[21][22] and in 2013 he was awarded the honorary rank of lieutenant colonel in the Royal Marines Reserve.[23]

On 16 May 1998, Grylls achieved his childhood dream climbed to the summit of Mount Everest, 18 months after breaking three vertebrae in a parachuting accident.[24] At 23, he was at the time among the youngest people to have achieved this feat. There is some controversy around whether he was, as claimed, the youngest Briton to have done so, as he was preceded by James Allen—an Australian climber with dual British citizenship who reached the summit in 1995 at age 22.[25][26] The record was since been surpassed by Jake Meyer and then Rob Gauntlett who summitted at age 19.

To prepare for climbing at such high altitudes in the Himalayas, in 1997, Grylls became the youngest Briton to climb Ama Dablam, a peak once described by Sir Edmund Hillary as "unclimbable".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Grylls

Bear Vs random IT guy on a tech message board

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