Dog shot and killed during search for toddler

[Alienwho]

Saw this on the news last night. Happened near my home town.

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=30367532&ni...earch-for-toddler&fm=home_page&s_cid=topstory

This really pisses me off. Dog gets its head blown off by trigger happy police for acting 'aggressive' at a cop intruder on his own territory - a private fenced yard that the cop entered. Yeah I have a dog I keep in the back yard too all day long because I don't want assholes - cops or otherwise creeping around my house.

Really, had to use a gun officer? No pepper spray or non lethal weapon on that batman utility belt of yours?

Turns out the kid was home the whole time.

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[Genx87]

Cops really don't do themselves any favors with this stuff. Over and over they shoot people's pets that are on private property and properly fenced in.

 

[Strk]

I don't understand why people are so trigger-happy. Other countries have guns, yet other than developing countries, we're the ones that shoot everything then worry about it later. From the sound of it, the dog just came out of his doghouse and that was enough for this idiot to shoot him.

 

[Remobz]

US cops tend to be very POWER hungry.

 

[Jaskalas]

All over a false report of a missing kid.

 

[Nebor]

This is a result of a shift in training and a shift in attitude. Cops have had guns and people have had dogs for a long time now. But only in the past 10 years has it become standard procedure to shoot a dog when an officer feels threatened. Pepper spray is typically very effective on dogs. Mail carriers use it all the time.

 

[Kadarin]

That's because right now the overriding concern for the police is their own safety. Doing their job comes after that.

 

[momeNt]

Cops are high energy, amped up individuals. It takes a lot of guts to do the jobs they do, to put themselves in the danger they put themselves in, to save lives and keep the peace. The cost of this sometimes, is that this high energy, and high testosterone will sometimes give them an itchy trigger finger when they see a dog, or someone wielding a remote controller as if it were a gun. They see these things, and they think "GO TIME BABY". But guess what? It's that same energy, testosterone, and thrill for adventure that puts them on the front line against murderers, rapists, and thieves and keeps us all safe.

So before you judge, remember that this story about a dog, and whatever few others there are, are a small price to pay for safety, freedom, and security. Remember that, and thank the next police officer you see for his service.

 

[justoh]

Cops are high energy, amped up individuals. It takes a lot of guts to do the jobs they do, to put themselves in the danger they put themselves in, to save lives and keep the peace. The cost of this sometimes, is that this high energy, and high testosterone will sometimes give them an itchy trigger finger when they see a dog, or someone wielding a remote controller as if it were a gun. They see these things, and they think "GO TIME BABY". But guess what? It's that same energy, testosterone, and thrill for adventure that puts them on the front line against murderers, rapists, and thieves and keeps us all safe.

So before you judge, remember that this story about a dog, and whatever few others there are, are a small price to pay for safety, freedom, and security. Remember that, and thank the next police officer you see for his service.

So you aren't just an idiot, but also an asshole?

 

[Jaskalas]

I think after their militarization we're all a lot less thankful.

 

[shira]

Kind of hard to know how to handle this type of situation to protect all parties. The police were in emergency mode, searching for the 3-year-old. I'm sure the family of the toddler and the rest of the community wouldn't have been too happy if it turned out that the youngster was being murdered at the home of the dog-owner while the police were held at bay by the dog (because they didn't want to kill it). On the other hand, the actual result seems pretty disgusting, too.

So rather than everyone being outraged, can someone suggest a viable alternative procedure for emergency situations where a LEO is blocked from performing an essential search by an aggressive dog?

 

[Alienwho]

Cops are high energy, amped up individuals. It takes a lot of guts to do the jobs they do, to put themselves in the danger they put themselves in, to save lives and keep the peace. The cost of this sometimes, is that this high energy, and high testosterone will sometimes give them an itchy trigger finger when they see a dog, or someone wielding a remote controller as if it were a gun. They see these things, and they think "GO TIME BABY". But guess what? It's that same energy, testosterone, and thrill for adventure that puts them on the front line against murderers, rapists, and thieves and keeps us all safe.

So before you judge, remember that this story about a dog, and whatever few others there are, are a small price to pay for safety, freedom, and security. Remember that, and thank the next police officer you see for his service.

Wow I sure hope you are wrong. The last people we want in a position of power are high energy amped up testosterone pumping lunatics. We need calm, rational, logical decision makers. These are the officers who are heroes and have guts. It does not take guts to do what they do if you're pointing your gun all the time. It takes guts to not be completely reactionary and to be in control of your own emotions and testosterone. Cowards who are scared for their own safety are performing these kinds of actions.

Being a cop is a service position. You are signing up for laying down your own safety for the greater good around you. This officer has proven he cares only for his safety at the cost of shooting a dangerous weapon in the back yard of a densely populated neighborhood.

 

[nehalem256]

Kind of hard to know how to handle this type of situation to protect all parties. The police were in emergency mode, searching for the 3-year-old. I'm sure the family of the toddler and the rest of the community wouldn't have been too happy if it turned out that the youngster was being murdered at the home of the dog-owner while the police were held at bay by the dog (because they didn't want to kill it). On the other hand, the actual result seems pretty disgusting, too.

So rather than everyone being outraged, can someone suggest a viable alternative procedure for emergency situations where a LEO is blocked from performing an essential search by an aggressive dog?

I think the chances of a missing 3 year old child being murdered in the backyard of a neighbor while a crazy dog stands guard to ward off the cops is negligible.

Cops shouldn't be able to just randomly search, without probable cause, your backyard and shoot your dog because its is causing problems for the search.

 

[Nebor]

Kind of hard to know how to handle this type of situation to protect all parties. The police were in emergency mode, searching for the 3-year-old. I'm sure the family of the toddler and the rest of the community wouldn't have been too happy if it turned out that the youngster was being murdered at the home of the dog-owner while the police were held at bay by the dog (because they didn't want to kill it). On the other hand, the actual result seems pretty disgusting, too.

So rather than everyone being outraged, can someone suggest a viable alternative procedure for emergency situations where a LEO is blocked from performing an essential search by an aggressive dog?

OC Spray works well against dogs. And tasers can literally take down a bull. The downside is if you're on your own, and one of those measures doesn't work, now you've got a dog clamped onto you as you try to draw your pistol and shoot it without shooting yourself.

 

[justoh]

 

[Thebobo]

Cops are high energy, amped up individuals. It takes a lot of guts to do the jobs they do, to put themselves in the danger they put themselves in, to save lives and keep the peace. The cost of this sometimes, is that this high energy, and high testosterone will sometimes give them an itchy trigger finger when they see a dog, or someone wielding a remote controller as if it were a gun. They see these things, and they think "GO TIME BABY". But guess what? It's that same energy, testosterone, and thrill for adventure that puts them on the front line against murderers, rapists, and thieves and keeps us all safe.

So before you judge, remember that this story about a dog, and whatever few others there are, are a small price to pay for safety, freedom, and security. Remember that, and thank the next police officer you see for his service.

"Sometiems an itchy finger" lol what a load of bullshit.

They should not be cops if they are "amped up inviduals."

 

[shira]

I think the chances of a missing 3 year old child being murdered in the backyard of a neighbor while a crazy dog stands guard to ward off the cops is negligible.

Cops shouldn't be able to just randomly search, without probable cause, your backyard and shoot your dog because its is causing problems for the search.

Obviously, you didn't read the story:

As police searched for the toddler, an officer entered Sean Kendall's yard, felt Kendall's dog, Geist, was aggressive, and shot the dog, police said. Police can lawfully enter private yards during an emergency.

This wasn't a search-warrant situation. You think the police should apply for and receive individual search warrants for each of the hundreds of homes in a community when searching for a missing child? And although the odds of the child being in any one home are small, the collective probability of the child being in SOME home in the community is much higher. Maybe the child is locked inside a refrigerator, about the suffocate. Maybe the child is trapped under a bed that collapsed on top of him. Maybe the child fell down a well. But you think a search warrant is necessary for each house searched?

 

[Strk]

Cops are high energy, amped up individuals. It takes a lot of guts to do the jobs they do, to put themselves in the danger they put themselves in, to save lives and keep the peace. The cost of this sometimes, is that this high energy, and high testosterone will sometimes give them an itchy trigger finger when they see a dog, or someone wielding a remote controller as if it were a gun. They see these things, and they think "GO TIME BABY". But guess what? It's that same energy, testosterone, and thrill for adventure that puts them on the front line against murderers, rapists, and thieves and keeps us all safe.

So before you judge, remember that this story about a dog, and whatever few others there are, are a small price to pay for safety, freedom, and security. Remember that, and thank the next police officer you see for his service.

They aren't even in the most dangerous job though. Hell, people picking fruit for a living are at more risk of death on the job.

 

[Oldgamer]

Saw this on the news last night. Happened near my home town.

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=30367532&ni...earch-for-toddler&fm=home_page&s_cid=topstory

This really pisses me off. Dog gets its head blown off by trigger happy police for acting 'aggressive' at a cop intruder on his own territory - a private fenced yard that the cop entered. Yeah I have a dog I keep in the back yard too all day long because I don't want assholes - cops or otherwise creeping around my house.

Really, had to use a gun officer? No pepper spray or non lethal weapon on that batman utility belt of yours?

Turns out the kid was home the whole time.

I posted this in the "Official Police Misconduct" thread, but will leave it here also. The dog was already contained and subdued and this cop cut its throat.. really really sick http://www.wbaltv.com/news/police-d...r-charged-with-animal-cruelty/26553714#!0VSAC

 

[justoh]

They aren't even in the most dangerous job though. Hell, people picking fruit for a living are at more risk of death on the job.

Those dogs aren't exactly known to be aggressive. They're just rambunctious. Plus cops are pretty well protected in their police uniform. What's the worst that could have happened? No indication that he tried anything else before shooting it. It's like they'll shoot anything if they think they can get away with it. Usually it's people, but, you know, that's slightly more difficult to justify. Gotta shoot something.

 

[Jaskalas]

Kind of hard to know how to handle this type of situation to protect all parties. The police were in emergency mode, searching for the 3-year-old. I'm sure the family of the toddler and the rest of the community wouldn't have been too happy if it turned out that the youngster was being murdered at the home of the dog-owner while the police were held at bay by the dog (because they didn't want to kill it). On the other hand, the actual result seems pretty disgusting, too.

So rather than everyone being outraged, can someone suggest a viable alternative procedure for emergency situations where a LEO is blocked from performing an essential search by an aggressive dog?

Did they have probable cause to force their way past the dog? Perhaps it was not necessary. If you want the home... there's a front door.