1sikbITCH
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OP - follow your instincts, and none of the advice that you have read in this thread until now. A bark collar will stop a dog from barking. But the reason that the dog is barking will still be there, and the dog will become more miserable now that he can't even bark. He will start to chew things up to get attention, piss all over the house, or even chew holes in his own legs and stomach out of frustration. <--- yes I have seen that happen.
Your dog obviously suffers from separation anxiety. This is a common behavior and can be fixed. Just google for it, read some books to find different ideas to try, or if you really want to have a happy and healthy dog, register for some training classes. It makes a world of difference. And I don't mean sending your dog off to school expecting him to come home knowing how to act. A proper trainer will teach you how to train your animal. And if you you are worried about costs, the expense of vet bills from the dogs worsening state, household in an uproar all the time, and finally having to drop your dog off at the pound because you were too cheap or lazy to learn how to train it properly will probably take a larger toll in the long run.
You can train nearly any dog on the planet to behave exactly as you want it to 100% of the time if you know how. The problem is, people don't spend the time and money to learn, they just start zapping the piss out of it screaming SHUT UP DOG!
And they wonder why they get bit.
For the record, I do have an electric collar that is part of the training gear for my Shepherd. The sole purpose of the collar is not to teach the dog, but as a last resort in case the dog's instinct kicks in and he ignores me when I tell him to unclench his teeth from your arm or throat. Saving your life is more important than not hurting the dog.
Spend a couple hundred bucks and go to a trainer who will train you to properly care for your pet.
Your dog obviously suffers from separation anxiety. This is a common behavior and can be fixed. Just google for it, read some books to find different ideas to try, or if you really want to have a happy and healthy dog, register for some training classes. It makes a world of difference. And I don't mean sending your dog off to school expecting him to come home knowing how to act. A proper trainer will teach you how to train your animal. And if you you are worried about costs, the expense of vet bills from the dogs worsening state, household in an uproar all the time, and finally having to drop your dog off at the pound because you were too cheap or lazy to learn how to train it properly will probably take a larger toll in the long run.
You can train nearly any dog on the planet to behave exactly as you want it to 100% of the time if you know how. The problem is, people don't spend the time and money to learn, they just start zapping the piss out of it screaming SHUT UP DOG!
And they wonder why they get bit.
For the record, I do have an electric collar that is part of the training gear for my Shepherd. The sole purpose of the collar is not to teach the dog, but as a last resort in case the dog's instinct kicks in and he ignores me when I tell him to unclench his teeth from your arm or throat. Saving your life is more important than not hurting the dog.
Spend a couple hundred bucks and go to a trainer who will train you to properly care for your pet.
id say thats the problem. if he only barks when hes in the cage, that means its facking with his head. dogs are territorial animals, and if they cant roam and check up on their turf, the dont like it.
hes still a puppy, and will eat your stuff for another year or so. buy him some chew toys, praise him when he chews them, just clean up the piss, and dont keep him trapped in a cage. id rather have to clean up some piss for a while and lose a few socks and shoes then have a dog thats been scatterbrained from being trapped up all the time.
1sikbITCH
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Another thing to go along with shimsham's post - NEVER punish the dog by putting it in the crate. The crate should be the dog's sanctuary; where it goes to feel safe. Our 6 month old puppy will whine when she wants to get out really bad, but will run right back in there and be fine. We go to work for 9 hours and the neighbors report hearing not a peep out of her. It's just a process you'll have to go through to find out what works.
Second on the training.
Aside, I have a barky Pomeranian. Once I got him trained so that he doesnt' have the separation anxiety (he knows I'm coming back) he cut most of the barking when I'm not in the house with him. He still (and always will) bark when he hears something outisde; he's a Pom and that's part of what they do.
A friend of mine had good luck with leaving the radio on a talk radio station. His little dog (I forget the breed) was comforted by the voices. We use the radio on road trips; on one trip the Pom was so unhappy in the car that he would only shut up when he could hear Linda Wertheimer on National Public Radio.
Also, how long are you leaving the dog kennelled? Small dogs really can't hold their bladders as long as big dogs, so if you're going to leave him in the house for, say, 12 hours then you might investigate a dog door or pee-pads. I know my Pom's top end is about 10 hours, and he's around 5-6 years old. When he was 2-3 years old, his best effort would still have him wetting the floor at around 6 hours. (but he's always been an anxious cuss)
Aside, I have a barky Pomeranian. Once I got him trained so that he doesnt' have the separation anxiety (he knows I'm coming back) he cut most of the barking when I'm not in the house with him. He still (and always will) bark when he hears something outisde; he's a Pom and that's part of what they do.
A friend of mine had good luck with leaving the radio on a talk radio station. His little dog (I forget the breed) was comforted by the voices. We use the radio on road trips; on one trip the Pom was so unhappy in the car that he would only shut up when he could hear Linda Wertheimer on National Public Radio.
Also, how long are you leaving the dog kennelled? Small dogs really can't hold their bladders as long as big dogs, so if you're going to leave him in the house for, say, 12 hours then you might investigate a dog door or pee-pads. I know my Pom's top end is about 10 hours, and he's around 5-6 years old. When he was 2-3 years old, his best effort would still have him wetting the floor at around 6 hours. (but he's always been an anxious cuss)
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good advice peoples...haha...i need to send in a tape to Cesar and get him to train me/dog 
lol...anywho...i will look into some training...how am i supposed to know who is a good trainer?
lol...anywho...i will look into some training...how am i supposed to know who is a good trainer?How can an intelligent animal like a dog keep itself entertained inside a *cage* on it's own? What is there to stop it from being bored out of its mind? I cannot think of anything more cruel and disgusting than leaving a social/ pack animal like a dog *on it's own* all day inside a freaking *cage* :|
Get another animal - another small dog, or a cat, to keep it company. Or let it out in the yard. Give it a big bone to chew on. Give it toys to play with.
ok, well at the current time i have no yard...BUT in august i move into a place that does have a fenced in little area (big enough for this small dog) and i plan on leaving him out there most if not all of the day while i am gone. I have plenty of toys for him to play with...as far as a companion...if i cant keep up one dog how could i do two? i am hoping our new neighbors will have a dog O_O
i understand it isnt good to keep him in a cage all day but he has left me no choice. I used to leave him out all the time but he ****** everywhere and chewed up over $500 worth of ******...i could leave him tied up on the front portch all day but i am afraid some jackass will come grab him
i understand it isnt good to keep him in a cage all day but he has left me no choice. I used to leave him out all the time but he ****** everywhere and chewed up over $500 worth of ******...i could leave him tied up on the front portch all day but i am afraid some jackass will come grab him
I have seen people who have had good luck with buying a kitty to grow up with the dog. I am really interested to hear even more ideas especially on separation anxiety becuase I have a 9 week old Havanese puppy and they are supposed to be pretty bad with being alone and such. Right now she is asleep on my pillow with my gf. We can't really crate train her because my gf's roomate has to wake up early and its not fair to him, he didn't ask for the dog. Also, I have heard crate training this breed is not such a great idea, but she hates her pen (10x10 or so) too. So if the OP's dog (and mine eventually) do have separation anxiety, what is the best way to take care of it?
could you put rugs down everywhere? and give him things to chew on? Basically it is your responsibility to provide an environment where he can be a happy dog. You can't blame a puppy for chewing on stuff. Put anything valuable and chewable up high in a cupboard where he can't reach.
A friends dog wouldn't shut up in his cage. She was trying to sleep. I went in there, looked him in the eye, and yelled SHUTTUP!! as loud as I could. That worked for a few hours anyways.
You mentioned you saw the Dog Whisperer parody on South Park, ever tried watching the real thing he is amazing and has fixed several dogs with the same problem as yours.
I have two mini schnauzers. One is about a year and a half old and the other is about 13 or 14 weeks old. The older one had separation problems when we would put her in her cage. So what we did was point the cage towards the tv and had that on animal planet anytime we had to put her in there. She doesn't really make much noise anymore. She might cry for a min or two but stops quickly.
We now have her trained so that if we pull out one of her little treats she will sprint into her cage and try to close the door.
We now have her trained so that if we pull out one of her little treats she will sprint into her cage and try to close the door.
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shock bark collar. somewhere down the line he didn't get the message he shouldnot expect you to always be there. as a puppy you should leave and appear without fuss or bye byes to teach them never to expect anything.
theres always surgery, i kid not. no vocal cords, no bark
theres always surgery, i kid not. no vocal cords, no bark
This is the natural reaction to putting a dog in a crate while you are away, but it is incorrect. My dog loves his crate, and can't wait to get in there in the morning. He is in there for 8 or more hours, and my neighbors say he only barks when he thinks someone is coming to the house (defensive bark). I used to feel bad about it, but then I realized how excited he is in the morning to go inside his crate. I could leave him out of the crate (and on occasion I have), but most of the time he sees us putting on our shoes to leave in the morning and he goes in there himself, wagging tail and all.
It isn't cruel, it's their den.... their house. They are plenty content with a couple of chew toys and a Kong, even for extended periods.
Oh, and OP... I would also say you should avoid the shock collar, at least for now. You need to treat the problem, not the symptom.
I would put him in training class (check out your local petsmart... they're generally pretty good). A good trainer will be able to work with you on this problem (and you get the other benefits of training as well).
Starting now, every time you leave your house you should just *go*. If you are crating him, put him in his crate with a couple of his favorite toys and a Kong, and don't make a big deal. Don't try to comfort him/say goodbye to him/etc. If you do this, it makes it seem like something is wrong. Just put him where he needs to be and go about your business.
I would put him in training class (check out your local petsmart... they're generally pretty good). A good trainer will be able to work with you on this problem (and you get the other benefits of training as well).
Starting now, every time you leave your house you should just *go*. If you are crating him, put him in his crate with a couple of his favorite toys and a Kong, and don't make a big deal. Don't try to comfort him/say goodbye to him/etc. If you do this, it makes it seem like something is wrong. Just put him where he needs to be and go about your business.
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