Does your state penalize you for having an alternative fuel vehicle?

[Red Squirrel]

Or miles driven down an unmaintained gravel road, or on your own property (ex: farms that may use their vehicle on their land). Just get rid of the damn tax altogether for EVs, there are plenty of other taxes we already pay that also go towards roads such as property taxes (for local roads) and income taxes (for provincial roads). Overtaxation is theft. We are already being taxed practically to the breaking point, it's the only reason we need to work so hard. About 50% of our income goes to the government in some way shape or form.

Government is just butthurt that people are finding ways to save money by buying an EV and don't like seeing people saving money.

If the government truly says they care about the environment, then stop penalizing EV owners and rather incentivize their purchase/usage. Having an extra tax is not an incentive.

 

[MtnMan]

that doesn't really make sense for hybrids though

most hybrid vehicles get less MPG than my compact gas-powered honda

The weight of a vehicle effects the wear and tear on our roads, That hybrid tank may get less MPG than your Honda, but it also weights 2 - 3 times as much.

OBTW, my diesel VW, averages over 50MPG, almost 60 MPH on the highway.

 

[MtnMan]

we need GPS on vehicles that tracks every trip, and charges you per mile on a daily basis

That way if you just happen to drive by where a crime occurred, you are automatically a suspect. Automatic speeding tickets will soon follow.

 

[pmv]

The weight of a vehicle effects the wear and tear on our roads, That hybrid tank may get less MPG than your Honda, but it also weights 2 - 3 times as much.

OBTW, my diesel VW, averages over 50MPG, almost 60 MPH on the highway.

I think it goes even further than that - as I understand it, road-wear is proportional to the 4th-power of the axle load of the vehicle. Heavier vehicles cause _much_ more wear to the roads.

 

[pmv]

That way if you just happen to drive by where a crime occurred, you are automatically a suspect. Automatic speeding tickets will soon follow.

Just don't rely too much on automatic licence-plate recognition

Motorist fined after CCTV confuses his number plate with woman’s T-shirt

David Knight told to pay £90 after KN19TER registration is mixed up with pedestrian’s ‘Knitter’ top 120 miles away

www.theguardian.com

 

[MtnMan]

Just don't rely too much on automatic licence-plate recognition

Motorist fined after CCTV confuses his number plate with woman’s T-shirt

David Knight told to pay £90 after KN19TER registration is mixed up with pedestrian’s ‘Knitter’ top 120 miles away

www.theguardian.com

I've read of toll road charges being received based on license plate readers. Only problem is it was wrong state, right plate #, or halfway across the country.

 

[MrSquished]

I've read of toll road charges being received based on license plate readers. Only problem is it was wrong state, right plate #, or halfway across the country.

In this area, numerous cops and firemen partially cover their plates to avoid tolls..

 

[MtnMan]

In this area, numerous cops and firemen partially cover their plates to avoid tolls..

I have not even seen the entrance to a toll road in probably 10+ years, haven't driven on one in 20+.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Just don't rely too much on automatic licence-plate recognition

Motorist fined after CCTV confuses his number plate with woman’s T-shirt

David Knight told to pay £90 after KN19TER registration is mixed up with pedestrian’s ‘Knitter’ top 120 miles away

www.theguardian.com

I hate that kind of crap, where they use automation/AI to charge people because cops don't want to work. Computers are NOT always right. Sucks that people get victimized by this, and there's really not much recourse. Good luck trying to prove that the computer was wrong. IMO anything that involves getting charged, or worse, going to jail, should absolutely be decided by humans and not AI.

Becoming more prevalant now too. Amazon uses it to track employees and they can be fired based on the AI's decision. Scary what the world is coming to.

 

[Torn Mind]

I hate that kind of crap, where they use automation/AI to charge people because cops don't want to work. Computers are NOT always right. Sucks that people get victimized by this, and there's really not much recourse. Good luck trying to prove that the computer was wrong. IMO anything that involves getting charged, or worse, going to jail, should absolutely be decided by humans and not AI.

Becoming more prevalant now too. Amazon uses it to track employees and they can be fired based on the AI's decision. Scary what the world is coming to.

Gubment loves the potential of charging fines. You have to go to court to wipe it. But if you die or some happenstance prevents you from making the trial or a motion to reschedule....the money collection is theirs to enforce.

 

[manly]

My point is, we already pay more than enough taxes, it's up to them to budget properly, it's ridiculous having so many different taxes and being ringed dry especially if more than one are for the same thing. They are clearly not using it for roads when you look at the state of the roads.

You should move to the U.S. deep South, where your political views align with voters and their elected representatives.

The title should read:

How does your state ensure that alternative fuel vehicles pay their fair share of the taxes that build and maintain the state's roads?

Any tax system would also need to be relatively simple to implement; accurate per-mile assessment is probably not going to fly in most U.S. states. Fairness is important, but it only needs to be approximate. It's nice to encourage zero emissions adoption, but I tend to not agree with subsidies for expensive cars. BEV subsidies at taxpayer expense should be means-tested.