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Does your job require security clearance?

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Originally posted by: Taggart
So if you have top secret clearance, can you look up stuff not related to your project? Example...say you are a nuclear engineer that works on warheads. Can you look at another agencies work and find out if UFO's really exist? Or is your clearance limited to only your project?


No you can't search anything. it's based on a need to know; so therefore it would be your project only
 
Originally posted by: xaeniac
Originally posted by: Taggart
So if you have top secret clearance, can you look up stuff not related to your project? Example...say you are a nuclear engineer that works on warheads. Can you look at another agencies work and find out if UFO's really exist? Or is your clearance limited to only your project?


No you can't search anything. it's based on a need to know; so therefore it would be your project only

aw man that's no fun 😀
 
Originally posted by: xaeniac
Originally posted by: ToastedMilk
Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Originally posted by: ToastedMilk
Yes. Can't go into detail but yes, it does, and it was a long and drawn out nightmare of a process.

Yes, I jsut got my Top Secret. The paper work up front sucks, but other than that, it's a joke.

And if you want details, just ask. Not sure what toasted milk is talkign about. Every engineer at my company pretty much has atleast secret.

And there is such things as black projects. There is above top secret, etc ....

I mean I can't talk about what I do; not the process of getting the clearance itself which took about a year (and I think a pap smear would be less intrusive).


He never asked what you do.

I think it's an unsaid requirement for clearance. "Sorry, I can't tell you what I do". For me, I say it as a joke. "I work in defense. What do I do? I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you." Some people take it too far/serirously.
 
Originally posted by: Taggart
Originally posted by: xaeniac
Originally posted by: Taggart
So if you have top secret clearance, can you look up stuff not related to your project? Example...say you are a nuclear engineer that works on warheads. Can you look at another agencies work and find out if UFO's really exist? Or is your clearance limited to only your project?


No you can't search anything. it's based on a need to know; so therefore it would be your project only

aw man that's no fun 😀

🙁

now I will never know who killed JFK
 
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Originally posted by: xaeniac
Originally posted by: ToastedMilk
Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Originally posted by: ToastedMilk
Yes. Can't go into detail but yes, it does, and it was a long and drawn out nightmare of a process.

Yes, I jsut got my Top Secret. The paper work up front sucks, but other than that, it's a joke.

And if you want details, just ask. Not sure what toasted milk is talkign about. Every engineer at my company pretty much has atleast secret.

And there is such things as black projects. There is above top secret, etc ....

I mean I can't talk about what I do; not the process of getting the clearance itself which took about a year (and I think a pap smear would be less intrusive).


He never asked what you do.

I think it's an unsaid requirement for clearance. "Sorry, I can't tell you what I do". For me, I say it as a joke. "I work in defense. What do I do? I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you." Some people take it too far/serirously.

Nope - "need to know" is a primary issue in having a clearance. A clearance alone doesn't get you anything. You have to have the clearance and need to know - that point is emphasized often.


 
Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
Originally posted by: stan394
my conclusion after reading this thread:

People who work on job that require security clearance, have more free time to nef on ATOT

and they do not get caught because no one is allowed into their office without knocking first and showing proper ID 😉

exactly.. a quick count in the thread so far ... 13 yes : 4 no
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Now maybe I'm wrong, but to me this seems like the sort of thing you shouldn't tell everyone on the internet about.

The fact that you have a basic level of clearance (S/TS/TS-SCI) isn't classified - it's on resumes all the time, and I've seen job fairs organized specifically for cleared people - and promoted by security managers.

Now specific compartments, associations with various organizations and such can get very sticky. And in general, it's not a bad idea to exercise some restraint.
 
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Now maybe I'm wrong, but to me this seems like the sort of thing you shouldn't tell everyone on the internet about.

The fact that you have a basic level of clearance (S/TS/TS-SCI) isn't classified - it's on resumes all the time, and I've seen job fairs organized specifically for cleared people - and promoted by security managers.

Now specific compartments, associations with various organizations and such can get very sticky. And in general, it's not a bad idea to exercise some restraint.

No, I know it's not classified. I'm just saying I'm not sure I'd go around telling people who don't really need to know. People with access to sensitive information have got to be targets on some level, so it seems like posting the fact on the internet isn't the best idea.

*Shrug* But what do I know 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
No, I know it's not classified. I'm just saying I'm not sure I'd go around telling people who don't really need to know. People with access to sensitive information have got to be targets on some level, so it seems like posting the fact on the internet isn't the best idea.

*Shrug* But what do I know 🙂

Matched up to what I have been told by counter-Esp people.

Even just advertising that you have a clearance can make you a target.

I had clearances while in service and afterwards.

No longer have one and really do not want to go through the headaches of getting one again.

5 years waiting for DSI to lose paperwork was enough.

 
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