Does trillian work now?

[Braves]

Always liked trillian but with my 56k didn't want to constantly download the prog over and over again, the last update Isee on their website is from feb. 22nd, so i'm wondering if they're sitll working on a solution, the prog is dead, or it works now and they just didn't update the website

 

[bjb86s]

Yes, and very well.

 

[Derango]

For now....Who knows how long it will be before AOL bumps it off again.

 

[yakko]

<< For now....Who knows how long it will be before AOL bumps it off again. >>

Hopefully it will be real soon.

 

[Ionizer86]

Go get 0.725 cuz it works perfectly

 

[RSI]

If you're obsessed with AOL, just use AOL.

Either way, you have no use for Trillian. It does not incorporate all the features of each respective messenger program, and it does not take less memory, nor does it run any faster. There IS no reason to use it. Oh... yeah... you must be 'cool' if you use Trillian. Right.

 

<< Hopefully it will be real soon. >>


Die, soon, real soon.



<< Either way, you have no use for Trillian. It does not incorporate all the features of each respective messenger program, and it does not take less memory, nor does it run any faster. There IS no reason to use it. Oh... yeah... you must be 'cool' if you use Trillian. Right.
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You sir, are talking straight out of your ass.

 

[ILikeSprite]

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<< Hopefully it will be real soon. >>


Die, soon, real soon.



<< Either way, you have no use for Trillian. It does not incorporate all the features of each respective messenger program, and it does not take less memory, nor does it run any faster. There IS no reason to use it. Oh... yeah... you must be 'cool' if you use Trillian. Right.
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You sir, are talking straight out of your ass. >>



~!!!!!

 

[RSMemphis]

<< Either way, you have no use for Trillian. It does not incorporate all the features of each respective messenger program, and it does not take less memory, nor does it run any faster. There IS no reason to use it. Oh... yeah... you must be 'cool' if you use Trillian. Right. >>



Whoops... Someone got out of bed on the wrong foot.

Things not implemeted from the AIM in Trillian: Voice chat. That's all!!!!!! Everything else works.
Things that Trillian implements on top of AIM and ICQ direct connections: Secure connection
Reasons to use: one window for many different connections.

Price of using Trillian: AIM protocol interruptions on rare occasions.
Price of using the AIM official client: Eternal Damnation with Steve Case.
Price of seeing RSI **** ******** Steve Case: priceless.

 

[yakko]

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<< Hopefully it will be real soon. >>


Die, soon, real soon. >>

What the fsck is your problem?

 

<< What the fsck is your problem? >>


I don't have a problem.
That was as easy to post as your comment about hoping trillian dies in every thread.

Take it with a grain of salt.

 

[ILikeSprite]

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<< Hopefully it will be real soon. >>


Die, soon, real soon. >>

What the fsck is your problem? >>



I agree with him. Every time Trillian is even mentioned you feel the urge to crap in the thread with Trillian sucks or some other BS.

 

[yakko]

I don't hope Trillian dies. I hope AOL does with their network what they want to when it comes to freeloaders. I also do not hope that people die for no reason. It is two totally different things.

 

[yakko]

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<< Hopefully it will be real soon. >>


Die, soon, real soon. >>

What the fsck is your problem? >>



I agree with him. Every time Trillian is even mentioned you feel the urge to crap in the thread with Trillian sucks or some other BS. >>

I have never said that Trillian sucks.

 

[RSI]

<< You sir, are talking straight out of your ass. >>

People on these forums seem to have the tendency to say things like "You sir, <insert random idiotic comment here>". I wonder why that is. Heh.

I am not "talking straight out of my ass". Instead of flaming me because you disagree with my opinion, why don't you actually think about what I wrote? Or rather, why not intelligently argue my points? Nah, that'd be too difficult, wouldn't it?

RSMemphis: Why would having all your instant messenger programs in one window be a reason to use Trillian? I don't see it as one. If however it took only one megabyte of memory and did all that - it may be a reason. But it takes enough in itself, that there aren't really any advantages to using it. If I want an alternative ICQ client, I would use Miranda ICQ, which provides many much better options and features, compared to Trillian. Now, I don't like AOL or AIM at all, and don't use it, but if I did, I would simply use the AOL client.

As for MSN - it's still the best to use for MSN. I don't like that style of chatting though. I much prefer messaging ICQ-style. That is one reason for my opinion towards Trillian. You can't select a different style of messaging. And why not? Do they simply assume everyone wants to message the same way? That's rather ridiculous. At least Miranda ICQ gives you the choice.

I stand by my opinion that there is no reason to use Trilian.

 

[RSMemphis]

RSMemphis: Why would having all your instant messenger programs in one window be a reason to use Trillian? I don't see it as one. If however it took only one megabyte of memory and did all that - it may be a reason. But it takes enough in itself, that there aren't really any advantages to using it. If I want an alternative ICQ client, I would use Miranda ICQ, which provides many much better options and features, compared to Trillian. Now, I don't like AOL or AIM at all, and don't use it, but if I did, I would simply use the AOL client.

Well, of course it is a question of personal preference.
BTW, Trillian does use a lot less memory thant AIM, ICQ, Y! together. Trillian also scales down a lot depending on the number of active connections, etc.
Right now, it uses 12 MB on my computer with a lot of connections open. With none, it goes down to about 4...
I did compare the memory usage of individual clients to Trillian, and I do see an advantage.... Did u do the same?

Can't really talk much about ICQ, since i rarely use it. If you only use ICQ and MSN, then probably there is really no good reason for you to use Trillian.
Just let other people use Trillian... Don't yell "Trillian must die", just so that you are right.
I never said "Miranda ICQ has to die REALLY soon". I leave program choices to the individual user.

Get what I mean?

 

<< . I hope AOL does with their network what they want to when it comes to freeloaders. >>


Classic line by now. Yes its their network. There are so many other strings attached. One is why they do not aggressivly target other clients.



<< I am not "talking straight out of my ass". Instead of flaming me because you disagree with my opinion, why don't you actually think about what I wrote? Or rather, why not intelligently argue my points? Nah, that'd be too difficult, wouldn't it? >>


You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.
Now if you would have "intelligently" crapped on this thread, mabey I would have approached your post differently. But your post seethed with attitude and sarcasm.

Currently I have trillian on 3 irc networks, ICQ, AIM and MSN. Using a grand total of 14,432K of memory.
I load JUST the ICQ client, and it currently is using 13,332K of memory.

The whole idea is consolidation. Not having to load 5 separate programs on my computer, worry about each separate "buddy list", all the preferences and keeping track of updates. Skinning and customizing the look of trillian is much easier. One skin, for all mediums.



<< As for MSN - it's still the best to use for MSN. I don't like that style of chatting though. I much prefer messaging ICQ-style. That is one reason for my opinion towards Trillian. You can't select a different style of messaging. And why not? Do they simply assume everyone wants to message the same way? That's rather ridiculous. At least Miranda ICQ gives you the choice. >>


That's why you go on irc, or ICQ or the trillian.cc forums and talk directly to the head developer.
He is VERY OPEN about the development of trillian. You ask him to do something, most likely he will do it.

I would rather trust the 2-3 developers of a small piece of software, then a mega multi-billion dollar conglomerate, who has not a single care about the user at all.

So now, you give me some good reasons why I should load 5 different pieces of software, when I can have one that does the same functions with less overhead?

 

[Balt]

<< If you're obsessed with AOL, just use AOL.

Either way, you have no use for Trillian. It does not incorporate all the features of each respective messenger program, and it does not take less memory, nor does it run any faster. There IS no reason to use it. Oh... yeah... you must be 'cool' if you use Trillian. Right. >>



Yeah, it could be that we think we are 'cool'. Or, alternatively, it could be that we don't want to open 5 different bloated clients when we can get most of the same functions from one slim client. Your claim that it doesn't take any less memory is just wrong.

Sounds to me like you're another one of those people who knocks anything that's popular so you can be 'different' just like the rest of the people that knock anything that is popular. But then if I were to state that definitively (since I don't know you), I'd be just as close-minded as you appear to be.

 

[RSI]

<< Just let other people use Trillian... Don't yell "Trillian must die", just so that you are right.
I never said "Miranda ICQ has to die REALLY soon". I leave program choices to the individual user.

Get what I mean? >>

No, I'm afraid I do not. Where did I yell "Trillian must die"? I never said such drivel. I said there is no use for Trillian! That is the truth. Maybe you want to use it anyway, that's fine. Wait... do you have only 16MB of system memory? Then I could understand. I'm looking at the memory usage for ICQ (AOL ICQ. Miranda is much smaller.), and MSN. MSN is 6196KB, ICQ is 5064KB. That is the actual VM Size.

If you used IRC, ICQ, MSN Messenger, AOL Instant Messenger, Y! Messenger, etc - then it could be understandable that one would want to use Trillian. But then again, if you're using all those, you should probably take a break from your computer.

Why sacrifice everything though to use Trillian? For one thing it opens up slower (for me, at least) than the actual programs. ICQ opens in 1 second. MSN sometimes takes a little longer, but usually about the same also. Trillian never, ever opened that fast for me. Usually took several seconds. Unacceptable.

 

[RSI]

<< Sounds to me like you're another one of those people who knocks anything that's popular so you can be 'different' just like the rest of the people that knock any that is popular. But then if I were to state that definitively (since I don't know you), I'd be just as close-minded as you appear to be. >>

I'd say that AIM, MSN and ICQ are far more popular than Trillian.

<< You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.
Now if you would have "intelligently" crapped on this thread, mabey I would have approached your post differently. But your post seethed with attitude and sarcasm. >>

What was so bad about my post? If you didn't like it, you should have just remained silent. And my opinion is "wrong"? Who are you to say that my opinion is wrong? It's an opinion. Yours is as wrong as mine.

<< I would rather trust the 2-3 developers of a small piece of software, then a mega multi-billion dollar conglomerate, who has not a single care about the user at all.

So now, you give me some good reasons why I should load 5 different pieces of software, when I can have one that does the same functions with less overhead? >>

Same here, I'd rather trust a small amount of developers who know what they're doing and care about the user, rather than a huge company who care not of the customer. That's one of the reasons why I prefer Miranda ICQ to regular ICQ. But that doesn't give me enough incentive to use Trillian. Maybe for you it's a better choice since you do use more of the programs Trillian incorporates, but not for me. I mainly use ICQ and sometimes MSN. To use Trillian would be a waste and stripping features for nothing.

 

<< If you used IRC, ICQ, MSN Messenger, AOL Instant Messenger, Y! Messenger, etc - then it could be understandable that one would want to use Trillian. But then again, if you're using all those, you should probably take a break from your computer. >>


Sure, end the statement with a catch all insult. "Intelligent" arguing master you must be.



<< Why sacrifice everything though to use Trillian? For one thing it opens up slower (for me, at least) than the actual programs. ICQ opens in 1 second. MSN sometimes takes a little longer, but usually about the same also. Trillian never, ever opened that fast for me. Usually took several seconds. Unacceptable. >>


It has to load the libraries for up to 5 different connections, of course it will load slower. Common sense son.

Hey, I use paint, and it loads WAY faster then Photoshop 6.0, man, photoshop SUCKS!!!

 

[RSI]

<< Sure, end the statement with a catch all insult. "Intelligent" arguing master you must be. >>

Insulting me I see? I guess you didn't notice the "" at the end of the line which you quoted. It was in a joking manner. It was not an attack/insult of any sort.

<< It has to load the libraries for up to 5 different connections, of course it will load slower. Common sense son. >>

Indeed, it does, and that is common sense, and I never argued that. I was merely stating the fact that it does load slower.

<< Hey, I use paint, and it loads WAY faster then Photoshop 6.0, man, photoshop SUCKS!!! >>

Paint can be extremely useful for small quick operations. What are you trying to prove with that sarcastic remark of yours? Are you comparing Photoshop to Trillian, and Paint to the individual messengers? That's a pretty poor comparison. Not accurate at all. Sounds to me like you were simply attempting to insult me. At least be humerous while you're at it.

 

[RedRooster]

The ravages of cabin fever!

 

<< Paint can be extremely useful for small quick operations. What are you trying to prove with that sarcastic remark of yours? Are you comparing Photoshop to Trillian, and Paint to the individual messengers? That's a pretty poor comparison. Not accurate at all. Sounds to me like you were simply attempting to insult me. At least be humerous while you're at it. >>



I said that in reponse to...



<< Why sacrifice everything though to use Trillian? For one thing it opens up slower (for me, at least) than the actual programs. ICQ opens in 1 second. MSN sometimes takes a little longer, but usually about the same also. Trillian never, ever opened that fast for me. Usually took several seconds. Unacceptable. >>


You are comparing ICQ, MSN, individual load times to trillian. Thats like comparing the load times of Paint, to photoshop.
Do you see the correlation? Probably not.



<< I mainly use ICQ and sometimes MSN. To use Trillian would be a waste and stripping features for nothing. >>


There, there is the basis of your opinion. Your needs to not dictate the usage of trillian.

Now for your original post.


<< Either way, you have no use for Trillian. It does not incorporate all the features of each respective messenger program, and it does not take less memory, nor does it run any faster. There IS no reason to use it. Oh... yeah... you must be 'cool' if you use Trillian. Right. >>


I think that speaks for itself when contrasted to the rest of your posts. You are TELLING someone they do not need it.

Can you see the massive attitude change as you go along?
Your first post should have read... "Either way, I have no use for Trillian." "There IS no reason for me to use it."
"Oh... yeah... I must be 'cool' for bashing users of Trillian, based upon my own needs. "

 

[RSI]

Ok, now you're just insulting me with any chance you get. Fsck off. I ignored it the first few times, but now it's getting annoying. You have some kind of problem? Are you not able to argue about an instant messenger without resorting to verbally attacking the other person? Why? Why not just NOT insult the other person? Hmmm...?

As for responding to your post: OK, yeah, I probably should have wrote "yes, THIS IS JUST MY OPINION" every two lines. I apologize for not realizing that it wasn't blatantly obvious that I was merely stating my opinion.

Blech. Did you ever stop to wonder why you're the only one arguing with me? Maybe the others actually realize that it's just what I think, and they don't care about my opinion..