Well, I have talked to many dealers willing to buy a car at the time and I would say things like.. "they have it for MSRP - $1750, can you beat that price", but the dealer will say, that is not the MSRP you mentioned... and so my question is... when I calculate the invoice/MSRP, do I include the destination charge for Toyota? Because Honda ignored the destination charge.
Does Toyota Car Dealership Need The DESTINATION Fee?
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destination fee is a legitimate charge, it is a cost of doing business, and thats the actual fee from the manufacturer. its probably one of the few things that isn't marked up.
what you want is drive-off cost, which should also have tt&l in it, iirc
what you want is drive-off cost, which should also have tt&l in it, iirc
Yes, they did. Invoice of my car was $16322. With extra options that costs $200, we got the car for $16000 + tax + registeration + doc($30). Destination fee would've been another $460.
which car did you get?? they probaly just use that as incentive but put it back somewhere else. Dealers still need to pay manufacturer the charge so there is no escaping
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Destination fee is a legitimate charge. It is the cost of transporting the vehicle from the place of final assembly to the dealer. Think of it as the shipping cost from an online vendor.
Do not negotiate the destination fee. Don't even speak of it or think about it. It can't be negotiated and will always be there (edit: the dealer may cover it up but it will always be there somewhere). Don't let the dealer talk about it or attempt to negotiate a price that does not include the destination charge. Instead, always negotiate the sales price of the car including destination (but not including any tax and license fees as those fees are often based off the sales price).
An example of this: the price I gave for the car I recently bought in a previous thread. That included destination. It didn't even occur to me until later that some people thought that it might not.
Do not negotiate the destination fee. Don't even speak of it or think about it. It can't be negotiated and will always be there (edit: the dealer may cover it up but it will always be there somewhere). Don't let the dealer talk about it or attempt to negotiate a price that does not include the destination charge. Instead, always negotiate the sales price of the car including destination (but not including any tax and license fees as those fees are often based off the sales price).
An example of this: the price I gave for the car I recently bought in a previous thread. That included destination. It didn't even occur to me until later that some people thought that it might not.
Destination(shipping) fee's can be haggled over. You can tell me it cost $500 to put a car on a trailer with 20 other cars and drive it from michagan to ohio. Then if you look at the same car at a Florida dealership from the same factory it cost just as much for shipping?
I can get a private company to ship a car for $400 and that is for 1 car on a single car hauler.
I can get a private company to ship a car for $400 and that is for 1 car on a single car hauler.
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New cars are generally not shipped by piggy-back trailer, except as the final stage of delivery. Inside the US, they are shipped by rail. As the car must be certified as damage-free during shipping, including the absense of any paint damage whatsoever (including fallout), the cost is more than you may think. All of the seats are wrapped in plastic, large sections of the carpet are covered in plastic, and the paint is protected by either a special plastic adhesive or a chemical compound. All of this must be removed with the car prepped and detailed for sale on the dealer end. During shipment, the car must have an empty gas tank, which sometimes presents issues when removing it from the rail. Dead batteries and lost keys (or locked-in keys) are another problem. Then there's the cost of insuring all those cars in a constant state of shipment...
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damnit... just noticed that myself
Corrected link Very nice price then... some $700-800 under invoice. It still doesn't change anything. Like I said earlier, ignore the Destination charge. Haggle the price that already includes it and insist the dealer do the same, because one way or the other it's still there...
which is all usually in the cost of the car(not the charges added to the end purchaser).
I've seen truck loads of F150's that didn't have any of the seats in them at all. they were all put in at the dealership in the configs the dealer wants.
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