Does this mean no 939 is close to being outdated?

msi or epox

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Check THIS article out. When will M2 processors be produced to replace 939's. Any ideas. Hope i'm not copying anyone's post.

- would it be worth it for me to go opteron 146 now or wait however long?
 

buzzsaw13

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Originally posted by: msi or epox
Check THIS article out. When will M2 processors be produced to replace 939's. Any ideas. Hope i'm not copying anyone's post.

- would it be worth it for me to go opteron 146 now or wait however long?

Screw M2, I'm not exactly excited about DDR2 support. Go for the Opteron 146, I just bought one :p
 

Creig

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Given the fact that S939 is the current top end AMD package, I don't think you need to worry about it being completely phased out anytime this year (or next).
 

buzzsaw13

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Originally posted by: Creig
Given the fact that S939 is the current top end AMD package, I don't think you need to worry about it being completely phased out anytime this year (or next).

Wasn't AMD going to make S939 Semprons?
 

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has any other info about this thing leaked out yet? i wanna know before i drop a buncha cash on stuff that will be obsolete in a year.
 

formulav8

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They are making s939 Semprons. But they are being sold only to OEM's at this time.


Jason
 

aka1nas

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I would guess that they will still make 939 motherboards for at least the next chipset generation or two as they want to make it the budget socket. I might jump on a later model PCIE board in a year or so and keep my dual-core Opty.
 

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According to this article on the front page of AT, the FX-60 (the first dual core FX chip) will be the last S939 cpu to be released. Text
 

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Originally posted by: Giscardo
According to this article on the front page of AT, the FX-60 (the first dual core FX chip) will be the last S939 cpu to be released. Text

Thats what I linked to in the first post.

 

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What I'd be interested in is if AMD will be making any 65nm S939 and if the dual-core will have 2 x 1MB L2 cache.

Chances you reckon? I'm thinking if 65nm was made we could expect another 400mhz or so headroom so overclock of 3-3.2ghz dual-core... perhaps.

I'm interested cos it would matter in making the choice of single/dual-core now. If 65nm it could be worth going single-core now and waiting 6-9 months for dual-core 65nm when it'd be cheaper, overclock higher and more apps out for it...
 

aka1nas

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Originally posted by: Giscardo
According to this article on the front page of AT, the FX-60 (the first dual core FX chip) will be the last S939 cpu to be released. Text

No, it will be the fastest 939 chip ever produced. They will still have semprons available for socket 939 for a while longer. Which is great for those of us with nice dual core chips that might want one more upgrade in a year or two.
 

Yianaki

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I think the higher cost of DDR2 and higher latency will make 939's a good choice for a long time. I have a feeling there is not going to be a performance increase, especially not if your an overclocker. I guess we'll see.
 

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I plan on getting a 939 dual-core once all the early adopters here begin putting theirs on FS/FT :)
 
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Originally posted by: Yianaki
I think the higher cost of DDR2 and higher latency will make 939's a good choice for a long time. I have a feeling there is not going to be a performance increase, especially not if your an overclocker. I guess we'll see.

There wont be any latency issues for a couple reasons. First AMD waited, unlike Intel, for faster DDR2 memory speeds before agreeing to adopt the standard. Second, the onboard memory controller should be optimized for the DDR2 memory so latency issues will be minimized by keeping the timings tight on the controller & memory and by using a large cache on the cpu itself for buffering. In any event dont expect AMD to suffer the same "slower than or slow as DDR" issues as Intel when it released DDR2 chipsets, they should fly right out of the gate...
 

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Originally posted by: aka1nas
Originally posted by: Giscardo
According to this article on the front page of AT, the FX-60 (the first dual core FX chip) will be the last S939 cpu to be released. Text

No, it will be the fastest 939 chip ever produced. They will still have semprons available for socket 939 for a while longer. Which is great for those of us with nice dual core chips that might want one more upgrade in a year or two.

upgrade from X2 to S939 Sempron...u mixed sumthin up here.
 

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I think the AM2 procesors will be great, but I like my S939, and I think most other S939 owners like their chips. Even when presented with this new socket, I think that a large number owners of the current Athlon 64s will hold onto theirs for at least a year after AM2 has been released. That being said, I plan to buy a new computer based on the AM2 socket and DDR2 standard in a year or so when the prices have stablized and the low-end AM2s are at a good price point. I plan to use my current system as a server (with a few modifications), so it's not like I'm giving up on S939 at all.

I think S939 will remain viable for some time to come.
 

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Originally posted by: Soldier
Originally posted by: Yianaki
I think the higher cost of DDR2 and higher latency will make 939's a good choice for a long time. I have a feeling there is not going to be a performance increase, especially not if your an overclocker. I guess we'll see.

There wont be any latency issues for a couple reasons. First AMD waited, unlike Intel, for faster DDR2 memory speeds before agreeing to adopt the standard. Second, the onboard memory controller should be optimized for the DDR2 memory so latency issues will be minimized by keeping the timings tight on the controller & memory and by using a large cache on the cpu itself for buffering. In any event dont expect AMD to suffer the same "slower than or slow as DDR" issues as Intel when it released DDR2 chipsets, they should fly right out of the gate...

Yes, I think it was wise to let intel deal with all the bullsh|t and then move in after the prices stabilized. I don't think there's going to be any performance advantages from the switch though...at least not right away.
 

Skott

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The article says 'no new faster 939 chips will be made'. Doesnt say they will stop making the old ones. Eventually they will stop making them altogether but probably not until next year (2007) at the earliest I'm guessing. M2 will need time to catch on and come down to an affordable price. The supplies of the 939 should remain strong in 2006 I would suspect.
 

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939 wont be "outdated" for quite some while. AM2 wil lcome out with DD2 support and such but for a while, untill AMD switches to 65nm or a different architecture, AM2 and 939 cpu's will be around the same performance... i dont think DD2 will mkae That much of a difference.

im gonna buy a new 939 system anyway.. by the time ill want to upgrade anything else than the graphics card ill have enough money to buy a whole new PC....