Does this Belkin wireless router have a 10/100 WAN port or only a 10?

[KingNothing]

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I can't find it in the manual or the description. Anyone know? 😕

 

[ts3433]

I don't know why it wouldn't have a 10/100 in the first place, but I saw this in the description:

An integrated, 4-port 10/100Base-T Ethernet switch also allows you to connect wired computers to the network.

 

[Rhin0]

If it is anywhere near "new" then it will have 10/100

I haven't seen anything new come in 10BaseT

 

[KingNothing]

Well the reason I ask is that my Speedstream 802.11b wireless router (about 2 years old, I think) is 10/100 between the wired ports but only 10 on the WAN port. Wasn't sure if manufacturers had stopped that nonsense yet or not.

 

[TerryMathews]

Originally posted by: KingNothing
Well the reason I ask is that my Speedstream 802.11b wireless router (about 2 years old, I think) is 10/100 between the wired ports but only 10 on the WAN port. Wasn't sure if manufacturers had stopped that nonsense yet or not.

Why is it nonsense? How many people really have >10mbit access to the internet?

 

[KingNothing]

Originally posted by: TerryMathews

Originally posted by: KingNothing
Well the reason I ask is that my Speedstream 802.11b wireless router (about 2 years old, I think) is 10/100 between the wired ports but only 10 on the WAN port. Wasn't sure if manufacturers had stopped that nonsense yet or not.

Why is it nonsense? How many people really have >10mbit access to the internet?

Maybe not the internet, but what if you have a home with ethernet jacks in the walls? Suppose a router is plugged into a jack downstairs, and a PC is plugged into one of the wired ports. That PC can't send files at 100MBit to a PC anywhere else in the house if the router only has a 10MBit WAN port.

 

[Gunbuster]

Maybe not the internet, but what if you have a home with ethernet jacks in the walls? Suppose a router is plugged into a jack downstairs, and a PC is plugged into one of the wired ports. That PC can't send files at 100MBit to a PC anywhere else in the house if the router only has a 10MBit WAN port.

WAN is Wide Area Network, the home PC's would not be plugged into it. WAN goes to the cable\DSL modem in most cases.

 

[Slowlearner]

All lowend routers have a 10 mbit WAN port and 10/100 LAN ports. Why ? because there aren't any, so far as I know, broadband connections available greater than 10 mbps - of course new services are popping up everywhere oferring greater and greater speeds, e.g. Verizon's FIOS - so I guess this will soon change

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: KingNothing

Originally posted by: TerryMathews

Originally posted by: KingNothing
Well the reason I ask is that my Speedstream 802.11b wireless router (about 2 years old, I think) is 10/100 between the wired ports but only 10 on the WAN port. Wasn't sure if manufacturers had stopped that nonsense yet or not.

Why is it nonsense? How many people really have >10mbit access to the internet?

Maybe not the internet, but what if you have a home with ethernet jacks in the walls? Suppose a router is plugged into a jack downstairs, and a PC is plugged into one of the wired ports. That PC can't send files at 100MBit to a PC anywhere else in the house if the router only has a 10MBit WAN port.

Then you're doing it wrong.

 

[KingNothing]

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy

Originally posted by: KingNothing

Originally posted by: TerryMathews

Originally posted by: KingNothing
Well the reason I ask is that my Speedstream 802.11b wireless router (about 2 years old, I think) is 10/100 between the wired ports but only 10 on the WAN port. Wasn't sure if manufacturers had stopped that nonsense yet or not.

Why is it nonsense? How many people really have >10mbit access to the internet?

Maybe not the internet, but what if you have a home with ethernet jacks in the walls? Suppose a router is plugged into a jack downstairs, and a PC is plugged into one of the wired ports. That PC can't send files at 100MBit to a PC anywhere else in the house if the router only has a 10MBit WAN port.

Then you're doing it wrong.

How's that? I'll expand on what I was saying:

The house has a cable modem, 8-port router, and patch panel in the basement. The cable modem plugs into the router and the patch panel sends CAT5 drops to different rooms in the house.

Upstairs in one of the bedrooms, a wireless router is plugged into a port using the router's WAN port. The WAN port must be used, otherwise the router will not be given an IP address and will not be able to provide wireless internet access. Meanwhile a desktop computer is plugged into one of the router's wired ports.

The desktop's internet access is not affected, but if that desktop wants to send a file to a computer plugged into the wall elsewhere in the house, it will only be able to do so at 10MBit.

One solution would be buy a switch to plug into the wall, and plug the router + other computers into the switch, but that's dumb considering the router already has 4 switched ports on it.

Am I missing something?

 

[TerryMathews]

Originally posted by: KingNothing
How's that? I'll expand on what I was saying:

The house has a cable modem, 8-port router, and patch panel in the basement. The cable modem plugs into the router and the patch panel sends CAT5 drops to different rooms in the house.

Upstairs in one of the bedrooms, a wireless router is plugged into a port using the router's WAN port. The WAN port must be used, otherwise the router will not be given an IP address and will not be able to provide wireless internet access. Meanwhile a desktop computer is plugged into one of the router's wired ports.

The desktop's internet access is not affected, but if that desktop wants to send a file to a computer plugged into the wall elsewhere in the house, it will only be able to do so at 10MBit.

One solution would be buy a switch to plug into the wall, and plug the router + other computers into the switch, but that's dumb considering the router already has 4 switched ports on it.

Am I missing something?

Yeah, you're using the wrong tools for the job.

Ideally, you'd want to use a WAP, not a wireless router for the upstairs. Setting that aside however, what you should be doing:

Crossover cable from upstairs port to LAN port on router
Disable NAT, DHCP, and firewall on upstairs router - this will turn it into a switch + WAP
Profit

The reason this works is that a WAP doesn't need it's own IP address.

EDIT: You may not realize, but you can connect routers and switches together using crossover cables.

 

[KingNothing]

Cool, I didn't know you could do that.

Of course, if you were doing this in a hostile network environment (i.e., a dormitory) you'd lose the benefit of being behind your own firewall that way, right? So in that situation it would be better to have a router with a 100MBit WAN port.

 

[JackMDS]

Talking about Entry Level Network hardware.

Yeah they started to manufactured for a while 100Mb/sec, WAN side Router, not because it necessary but because American marketters know that smei-ignorant like to buy what is ?Rated Fast? even if it does add any functional outcome.

The result was trouble between the Modems (that are not 100Mb/sec. compatible) and the 100Mb/sec. WANs

So a lot of the hardware stays at 10Mb/sec.

Sure there are network that need more on the WAN side, so they buy professional Hardware.

Link to: Extending the Distance of Entry Level Wireless Network.

Link to: Using a Wireless Cable/DSL Router as a Switch with an Access Point

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