If you are talking about a 'relationship/marriage' also take into account that many women, through being the baby pod, lose dollars. Their career is put on hold, often they are without an independent money source. So I guess they do what they have to do.
As for legal/illegal side of prostitution, I can see that by legalizing it, prostitution could be run as a business thereby taking away the exploitation aspect of it. Although I have to wonder about a society which still sees sexuality as a persons most valuable asset, but if my children were hungry and it was the only way to feed them, then you bet your butt I would be standing on that street corner.
As for legal/illegal side of prostitution, I can see that by legalizing it, prostitution could be run as a business thereby taking away the exploitation aspect of it. Although I have to wonder about a society which still sees sexuality as a persons most valuable asset, but if my children were hungry and it was the only way to feed them, then you bet your butt I would be standing on that street corner.
<< take into account that many women, through being the baby pod, lose dollars. Their career is put on hold, often they are without an independent money source >>
No one is forcing women to get married and/or have a child. If a woman is worried about not having her own money source, then don't get married until you have enough money to provide for yourself.
No one is forcing women to get married and/or have a child. If a woman is worried about not having her own money source, then don't get married until you have enough money to provide for yourself.
<< No one is forcing women to get married and/or have a child. If a woman is worried about not having her own money source, then don't get married until you have enough money to provide for yourself. >>
Agreed konichiwa
, but my point was this : if a couple decide to get married, have children and both partners decide that one of them should stay at home to raise the child, the working partner should not use the paycheck as bargaining power either.wow... I thought this thread was going to die in like 10 posts at most.... good to see such lively and interesting debate on the issue.
Prostitution isn't known as "the world's oldest profession" for nothing. I think we are honestly fighting a losing battle for what amounts to remnants of Puritain beliefs and well-meaning Feminism. If they were well monitored, I honestly think we could help prevent disease and get rid of much, if not all, of the organized crime connection to hookers. This goes right along with the legalization of drugs. I feel that we have allowed our desire to be righteous override what is in the best interest of our health as a society at large. The moral majority may be looking after our souls, but are sacrificing our bodies by failing to establish healthier ways to conduct these acts.
Prostitution isn't known as "the world's oldest profession" for nothing. I think we are honestly fighting a losing battle for what amounts to remnants of Puritain beliefs and well-meaning Feminism. If they were well monitored, I honestly think we could help prevent disease and get rid of much, if not all, of the organized crime connection to hookers. This goes right along with the legalization of drugs. I feel that we have allowed our desire to be righteous override what is in the best interest of our health as a society at large. The moral majority may be looking after our souls, but are sacrificing our bodies by failing to establish healthier ways to conduct these acts.
LMAO, too true !!
Morally I disagree with prostitution in ANY of its forms, but realistically if its going to be a part of society as it always has been, then I would prefer that it be legal and monitored.
Morally I disagree with prostitution in ANY of its forms, but realistically if its going to be a part of society as it always has been, then I would prefer that it be legal and monitored.
Sigh... at this point I'm not sure I should continue with this debate or not. No one is going to change their mind from:
We're all just prostitutes anyway...
Legalizing it will clean it up and it will be a good and productive, healthy industry we can all be proud of and women will not be exploited in it...
and my favorite:
Your arguments are worthless. It is as simple as that...
I'm tempted to make a final point, but then it just looks like shouting and running away. I also, by stopping now, severly risk my numerous debating opponents declaring victory by default, or that I stopped because I was dumbfounded by their arguments
The truth is that:
a) no one is about to change their minds.
b) Better stop now before the name calling.
c) The one-guy-against-many debates don't tend to go well, I don't want any trouble.
To sum up - I feel exactly the same way I did at the start of the thread, yes I could go on arguing ad infinitum (after all, I'm right, eh? ), and I want to thank BoberFett, fdiskboy, Napalm, and Blackhawk2 for a good, solid, and mostly civil debate - this was a good one!
Of course, you are all wrong, but what they hey.
Have fun - I don't promise to keep out of this thread totally, I've just expressed my views as best I can (given that work kept interrupting me - darn work!) and think I need to take a breather.
Whew!
We're all just prostitutes anyway...
Legalizing it will clean it up and it will be a good and productive, healthy industry we can all be proud of and women will not be exploited in it...
and my favorite:
Your arguments are worthless. It is as simple as that...
I'm tempted to make a final point, but then it just looks like shouting and running away. I also, by stopping now, severly risk my numerous debating opponents declaring victory by default, or that I stopped because I was dumbfounded by their arguments
The truth is that:
a) no one is about to change their minds.
b) Better stop now before the name calling.
c) The one-guy-against-many debates don't tend to go well, I don't want any trouble.
To sum up - I feel exactly the same way I did at the start of the thread, yes I could go on arguing ad infinitum (after all, I'm right, eh?
), and I want to thank BoberFett, fdiskboy, Napalm, and Blackhawk2 for a good, solid, and mostly civil debate - this was a good one! Of course, you are all wrong, but what they hey.
Have fun - I don't promise to keep out of this thread totally, I've just expressed my views as best I can (given that work kept interrupting me - darn work!) and think I need to take a breather.
Whew!
Optimus - In theory I agree with every point you made, I guess I am just too cynical to believe that it will ever be a reality.
Prostitution is legalised in most Australian states & decriminalised in all Australian states, & I can tell you right now that there are less problems because of decriminalisation than there were in the bad old days (to be precise all the problems that existed in those days still exist now, but to a much lesser degree).
We even have brothels listed on the stock exchange, including The Daily Planet, which is listed on the Melbourne stock exchange & is reportedly the biggest brothel in the Southern Hemisphere.
The only new problem that has occured since legalisation, is local councils playing politics & using zoning laws to stop brothels in 'my back yard', which means that brothel aplications useally in end up in the 'Land & Enviroment Court', so the lawyers still get their cut as they always did. But not as much as they did in the bad old days when the police wasted taxpayers money on stings & sweeps & arresting 'ladies' & clients.
One big gain is their is a lot less graft & corruption now days. Actually about 4 years ago a local dectective try to stand over a local brothel madam & she called the internal affairs people who got a sting going & that 'D' ended up getting arrested & charged. In the old days the 'D' would 'ave got away with it.
We even have brothels listed on the stock exchange, including The Daily Planet, which is listed on the Melbourne stock exchange & is reportedly the biggest brothel in the Southern Hemisphere.
The only new problem that has occured since legalisation, is local councils playing politics & using zoning laws to stop brothels in 'my back yard', which means that brothel aplications useally in end up in the 'Land & Enviroment Court', so the lawyers still get their cut as they always did. But not as much as they did in the bad old days when the police wasted taxpayers money on stings & sweeps & arresting 'ladies' & clients.
One big gain is their is a lot less graft & corruption now days. Actually about 4 years ago a local dectective try to stand over a local brothel madam & she called the internal affairs people who got a sting going & that 'D' ended up getting arrested & charged. In the old days the 'D' would 'ave got away with it.
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