Does the GTX 512mb really dump heat INSIDE the case? WTF?

[Polish3d]

According to the Guru3d the GTX's solution dumps heat inside the case

That's no good for dual slot... but is it true? They are also showing that the GTX gets a temp of 76 degrees load which is really high for dual slot... My regular GTX w/ NVsilencer gets only 56 at load or so

 

[malG]

HardOCP says that it's very quiet and cool: http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=ODg1LDEx

 

[dug777]

meh, i'd take the word of a bloke i met at the bar after a heavy night on the rum and coke over anything hardocp have to say these days

Any other review sites comment on it?

 

[fc911c]

You Know I was wondered the same thing. Looking at the design both end's are open besides the fan inlet.

 

[Polish3d]

My NVSilencer GTX 256 loads at around 56C while this one is at 76... what kind of moron makes dual slot cooling that dumps heat inside the case... hopefully a better aftermarket cooler will come out for it

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: Frackal
According to the Guru3d the GTX's solution dumps heat inside the case

That's no good for dual slot... but is it true? They are also showing that the GTX gets a temp of 76 degrees load which is really high for dual slot... My regular GTX w/ NVsilencer gets only 56 at load or so

Thats beacuse their fan blows directly on the core instead of routing it like the Silencers and such. It does have a vent for it to leave it just doesn't do any super routing.

 

[Sentry2]

No big deal...just use water

 

[obeseotron]

The Arctic Silencer barely exhausts any heat from the case, put your finger by the grille on the back and you have just the slightest breeze coming out, barely detectable. The amount of air that the AS is pushing out is so small compared to even a quiet case fan you really shouldn't worry about it. Looking at the new cooler, I'd be absolutely shocked if the AS was even as good as the stock cooler.

56C under load is incredibly low for an overclocked high end gpu on air are you really sure that is as high as it gets? Not what it says when you alt-tab out of the game real quick to check the temps, but what a program like riva tuner will record during actual gameplay? Temps drop 5-10 C in the few seconds alt-tabbing takes. Also the GPU will not get to its load temperature unless you totally eliminate any CPU bottleneck, but with a system like yours I'd assume you are playing in very high resolutions with all the AA and AF you can turn on.

Finally, 76 is not really that hot for a high end gpu. A 6800GT can easily hit 80 C, and a pair of ultras in SLI will sit around 90 with stock cooling. Granted the new cooler is far better than the ones on the 6 series.

 

[fc911c]

Originally posted by: Sentry2
No big deal...just use water

What!! MO MONEY this card is getting more exspensive by the minute.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: Sentry2
No big deal...just use water

And use ramsinks + fan on the RAM.

 

[Polish3d]

Maybe its not that big of a deal then

 

[Sentry2]

Hopefully the ocz copper ram sinks will work good. Just installed a 120mm fan in the side of my case to blow on the cards. I hope it's enough...if not there's always the Danger Den NV-78 water blocks.

 

[Markbnj]

56C under load is incredibly low for an overclocked high end gpu on air are you really sure that is as high as it gets?

My 6800GT runs the same under load (say, BF2 at 1600 x 1200), or a little lower. Not overclocked though.

 

[imported_Rampage]

Originally posted by: obeseotron
The Arctic Silencer barely exhausts any heat from the case, put your finger by the grille on the back and you have just the slightest breeze coming out, barely detectable. The amount of air that the AS is pushing out is so small compared to even a quiet case fan you really shouldn't worry about it. Looking at the new cooler, I'd be absolutely shocked if the AS was even as good as the stock cooler.

56C under load is incredibly low for an overclocked high end gpu on air are you really sure that is as high as it gets? Not what it says when you alt-tab out of the game real quick to check the temps, but what a program like riva tuner will record during actual gameplay? Temps drop 5-10 C in the few seconds alt-tabbing takes. Also the GPU will not get to its load temperature unless you totally eliminate any CPU bottleneck, but with a system like yours I'd assume you are playing in very high resolutions with all the AA and AF you can turn on.

Finally, 76 is not really that hot for a high end gpu. A 6800GT can easily hit 80 C, and a pair of ultras in SLI will sit around 90 with stock cooling. Granted the new cooler is far better than the ones on the 6 series.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: malG
HardOCP says that it's very quiet and cool: http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=ODg1LDEx

74C is not cool! It's hot as hell - it just cools better than the regular 7800GTX cooler, but it's got to put the heat somewhere - your case!

 

[obeseotron]

Originally posted by: Markbnj

56C under load is incredibly low for an overclocked high end gpu on air are you really sure that is as high as it gets?

My 6800GT runs the same under load (say, BF2 at 1600 x 1200), or a little lower. Not overclocked though.

Well, 56 certainly doesn't make any sense and is way out of line with anything I've ever observed myself or read about in a review of the various aftermarket coolers. See NV News Artic Silencer 5 Review, or this this one, or this one. They all show stock 6800 temperatures basically at 80, and being lowered to high 60s/low 70s with better cooling. My 6800gt can get up to 70 sometimes with a vf700cu, but it's overclocked to 425/1150. 56 is nowhere near what I or it seems anyone else has experienced.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: jiffylube1024

Originally posted by: malG
HardOCP says that it's very quiet and cool: http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=ODg1LDEx

74C is not cool! It's hot as hell - it just cools better than the regular 7800GTX cooler, but it's got to put the heat somewhere - your case!

Doesnt a stock GTX already do that?
It blows the air in 2 directions. One out of the case and the other into the case.

However the air comnig out of the case will porbably meet the air flow from there on, travelling up the case, and either through the back of the case or top of the case.

A good case with good air flow should handle these cards pretty well.

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

How is this any worse than the 6800 ultra dual slot cooling that pushes the heat back into the case? At least it doesn't pour ALL the heat in.

I have an NV silencer 5 rev. 3 on my GTX, and I never see over 58C at 500/1350.

 

[Polish3d]

Originally posted by: obeseotron

Originally posted by: Markbnj

56C under load is incredibly low for an overclocked high end gpu on air are you really sure that is as high as it gets?

My 6800GT runs the same under load (say, BF2 at 1600 x 1200), or a little lower. Not overclocked though.

Well, 56 certainly doesn't make any sense and is way out of line with anything I've ever observed myself or read about in a review of the various aftermarket coolers. See NV News Artic Silencer 5 Review, or this this one, or this one. They all show stock 6800 temperatures basically at 80, and being lowered to high 60s/low 70s with better cooling. My 6800gt can get up to 70 sometimes with a vf700cu, but it's overclocked to 425/1150. 56 is nowhere near what I or it seems anyone else has experienced.

It might get to low 60s after a period of time but my idle temp is 38c

 

[jjzelinski]

If I had to make a guess I'd say NV felt drawing in cool outside-the-case air took priority over the cooling integrity of the rest of your system. I'm rather suprised it hasn't been done earlier. If the card runs relatively hot to begin with, drawing in that cooler air might make a significant difference in terms of heat. Additionally, if it runs cooler w/ outside air that means you don't need as powerful a fan as you would otherwise. Therefore it would also produce less noise.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: jjzelinski
If I had to make a guess I'd say NV felt drawing in cool outside-the-case air took priority over the cooling integrity of the rest of your system. I'm rather suprised it hasn't been done earlier. If the card runs relatively hot to begin with, drawing in that cooler air might make a significant difference in terms of heat. Additionally, if it runs cooler w/ outside air that means you don't need as powerful a fan as you would otherwise. Therefore it would also produce less noise.

You know what. The dust buster used this idea. It sucked in the cooler air from outside the case, brought it to the GPU and it went out of the case. Like a U shape air flow. However, the fan needed to be quite loud.. no joking aside. like a vaccum cleaner to do so.

 

[Polish3d]

I'd rather have a tad more noise... I don't know exactly what the temps would be, but before I added this dual slot cooling I bet I'd have to lower my processor OC by 100mhz to be stable, and frankly, I think it's stupid to pull cold air from outside the case and dump hot air inside the case, not to mention I try to keep my system dust free and I have a filter on the intake vents (comes w/ P180)

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: Frackal
I'd rather have a tad more noise... I don't know exactly what the temps would be, but before I added this dual slot cooling I bet I'd have to lower my processor OC by 100mhz to be stable, and frankly, I think it's stupid to pull cold air from outside the case and dump hot air inside the case, not to mention I try to keep my system dust free and I have a filter on the intake vents (comes w/ P180)

It's not necessarily stupid, it just doesn't suit your OC'ing. NV is making sure their part is optimized, they're not trying to optimize your system. They can run the part cooler and quieter like this. They've left the burdon on the consumer to figure out how to accomdate their optimization into the rest of their system.

 

[shiznit]

Originally posted by: obeseotron
The Arctic Silencer barely exhausts any heat from the case, put your finger by the grille on the back and you have just the slightest breeze coming out, barely detectable. The amount of air that the AS is pushing out is so small compared to even a quiet case fan you really shouldn't worry about it. Looking at the new cooler, I'd be absolutely shocked if the AS was even as good as the stock cooler.

56C under load is incredibly low for an overclocked high end gpu on air are you really sure that is as high as it gets? Not what it says when you alt-tab out of the game real quick to check the temps, but what a program like riva tuner will record during actual gameplay? Temps drop 5-10 C in the few seconds alt-tabbing takes. Also the GPU will not get to its load temperature unless you totally eliminate any CPU bottleneck, but with a system like yours I'd assume you are playing in very high resolutions with all the AA and AF you can turn on.

Finally, 76 is not really that hot for a high end gpu. A 6800GT can easily hit 80 C, and a pair of ultras in SLI will sit around 90 with stock cooling. Granted the new cooler is far better than the ones on the 6 series.

agreed, as soon as you hit alt-tab out of the game the temp will drop 10C. didn't know this at first and i thought i was getting 60c on my 7800gt, but then i fired up rthdribl with 8x supersampling and watched the temp in real time climb up to 72C. i had an nv silencer 5 on a 6800gt, and an ati silencer 5 on a x800xl (fan failed within a month), and while they did a good job cooling the cards, they barely exhausted any air outside the case (and i have positive pressure). i would definitely stick with the stock cooler (looks money) over the nv silencer, i doubt you will see that much difference, and the stock coolers fan is bigger (92mm vs. 72) so it wont have to spin as hard while making less noise. i'm not the only one whose silencer fan died suddenly (during a game, graphics went all purple, thank god for the case window that let me see what was happening) and their rma process is not the best. apparently there are issues with the "6-year" ceramic shafts. at least remove the stock cooler and apply some AS5 to see if it helps, sometimes the factory doesnt ensure proper contact (the screws on my x800xl were loose). of course if you want to go water, then by all means full speed ahead.

 

[nRollo]

I like Arctic Silencers, but IMO they are very cheaply constructed compared to the reference cooler on the 512MB GTX.

There's no way I'd void my warranty to switch out the HSF on this card, 76C is not that hot for a video card in current times.

As noted, Silencers airflow out the back is meager, I would guess adding a fan or two to your case could offset any "advantage" they might have.

BTW- we don't even know if they would have an advantage- AFAIK there are no Silencers for this product? You can't compare a much lower clocked 256 GTX temps, and the four heatpipes/huge fan with intake may well outperform the Silencer.