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yeah I was like wtf. but then I figured you knew what you were talking about 😛

and in the period I did it I only dropped 2 😉

and Ill ping the modeom some day when I think aobut it. takes to long to reboot the comp 🙁
 
Originally posted by: DEMO24
yeah I was like wtf. but then I figured you knew what you were talking about 😛

and in the period I did it I only dropped 2 😉

and Ill ping the modeom some day when I think aobut it. takes to long to reboot the comp 🙁

pinging your LAN router should never, ever, ever be more than 10 ms, if it is you have a cabling/nic/driver problem.
 
Originally posted by: DEMO24
yeah I was like wtf. but then I figured you knew what you were talking about 😛

and in the period I did it I only dropped 2 😉

and Ill ping the modeom some day when I think aobut it. takes to long to reboot the comp 🙁

You aren't pinging the modem, you're pinging your default gateway (hanging somewhere on a telephone pole near your house). The modem only acts as a pass-through. You should not be dropping ANY packets on your home network EVER. You shouldn't be dropping packets between your home and your default gateway, either, but that's much easier to FUBAR (weather, neighbors digging, car hitting power pole, etc).

What OS are you running? Releasing and renewing your IP is cake.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: DEMO24
yeah I was like wtf. but then I figured you knew what you were talking about 😛

and in the period I did it I only dropped 2 😉

and Ill ping the modeom some day when I think aobut it. takes to long to reboot the comp 🙁

pinging your LAN router should never, ever, ever be more than 10 ms, if it is you have a cabling/nic/driver problem.

fixed
 
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
I used to have a problem with my comcast service using an RCA modem where use of the television in close proximity would hump the connection. Apparently, the older models weren't shielded properly. They came and replaced it with a newer modem, which I think is a Motorola, but now the internet cuts out for a few seconds every few minutes and is driving me batty.

ping (gatewayIP) -t

wait 1 minute

<ctrl> C

Call comcast's customer service and report periodic service disruption. Tell them that you're dropping packets to your gateway and remind them that your modem was recently replaced.


I'll try it when I got home since I can't SSH in from work because the whole thing appears to be down now. And calling Comcast's tech support is only slightly more enticing than eating cakes of ground teeth. 🙁

hahaha - well, you're going to have to ping your default gateway anyway. The second you say "speed problem" they're going to have your ping it anyway. 😛
 
im running XP. I have a 4 port Linksys router hooked to the cable modeom. Just my comp is picky and Iv found only works if I reboot when I go to cable modeom
 
Originally posted by: DEMO24
yeah I was like wtf. but then I figured you knew what you were talking about 😛

and in the period I did it I only dropped 2 😉

and Ill ping the modeom some day when I think aobut it. takes to long to reboot the comp 🙁

It's M-O-D-E-M
 
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: DEMO24
yeah I was like wtf. but then I figured you knew what you were talking about 😛

and in the period I did it I only dropped 2 😉

and Ill ping the modeom some day when I think aobut it. takes to long to reboot the comp 🙁

pinging your LAN router should never, ever, ever be more than 10 ms, if it is you have a cabling/nic/driver problem.

fixed

DOH!

I slipped.
 
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
I used to have a problem with my comcast service using an RCA modem where use of the television in close proximity would hump the connection. Apparently, the older models weren't shielded properly. They came and replaced it with a newer modem, which I think is a Motorola, but now the internet cuts out for a few seconds every few minutes and is driving me batty.

ping (gatewayIP) -t

wait 1 minute

<ctrl> C

Call comcast's customer service and report periodic service disruption. Tell them that you're dropping packets to your gateway and remind them that your modem was recently replaced.


I'll try it when I got home since I can't SSH in from work because the whole thing appears to be down now. And calling Comcast's tech support is only slightly more enticing than eating cakes of ground teeth. 🙁

hahaha - well, you're going to have to ping your default gateway anyway. The second you say "speed problem" they're going to have your ping it anyway. 😛

That's the thing--it's not actually a speed problem, when it's up it operates at normal speed. The only problem is that seemingly at random, as often as every 5-10 minutes, there is a lapse of 10-15 seconds where the connection is completely dropped. That's a problem when a streaming server operates over the connection, and it's a major irritation for surfing/downloading/or doing anything that requires continuity.
 
Originally posted by: DEMO24
im running XP. I have a 4 port Linksys router hooked to the cable modeom. Just my comp is picky and Iv found only works if I reboot when I go to cable modeom

That's because you have to get a new IP. When you get an IP from Charter, it won't start with 192.168.x.x. When you get one from your router, it will.

Start > Run > cmd

then type:

ipconfig -release

wait for a success response, then type:

ipconfig -renew

The response you get should show you connected directly to your ISP with a different IP. That's the "work-around" to rebooting a slow box.

🙂
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: DEMO24
yeah I was like wtf. but then I figured you knew what you were talking about 😛

and in the period I did it I only dropped 2 😉

and Ill ping the modeom some day when I think aobut it. takes to long to reboot the comp 🙁

pinging your LAN router should never, ever, ever be more than 10 ms, if it is you have a cabling/nic/driver problem.

fixed

DOH!

I slipped.

Yeah, don't make me slap you around a bit with a large trout.

😉
 
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: DEMO24
yeah I was like wtf. but then I figured you knew what you were talking about 😛

and in the period I did it I only dropped 2 😉

and Ill ping the modeom some day when I think aobut it. takes to long to reboot the comp 🙁

pinging your LAN router should never, ever, ever be more than 10 ms, if it is you have a cabling/nic/driver problem.

fixed

DOH!

I slipped.

Yeah, don't make me slap you around a bit with a large trout.

😉

well, if you wanna slap me around with a trout bring your butt over to the networking forum where I live and get served.

😉
 
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
That's the thing--it's not actually a speed problem, when it's up it operates at normal speed. The only problem is that seemingly at random, as often as every 5-10 minutes, there is a lapse of 10-15 seconds where the connection is completely dropped. That's a problem when a streaming server operates over the connection, and it's a major irritation for surfing/downloading/or doing anything that requires continuity.

/me slaps forehead. Someone slap ME around a bit with a large trout!

That's another issue, but they'll have you ping your gateway anyway. There's LOTS of things that could be causing that. Micro bursts of data from a roof-top satelite close by, cordless phone or other radio device being used too close to coax/cat5/modem, someone jumping up and down too hard in the house with a loose coax/cat5 or something 😛 That would take someone coming out to the house to fix, almost guaranteed.

Does it happen when you plug that PC's cat5 into another PC?
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
well, if you wanna slap me around with a trout bring your butt over to the networking forum where I live and get served.

😉

"Never argue with a stupid man. He'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."

I'll stick to OT, thank you very much 😛
 
Originally posted by: OulOat
Nik, you are losing your touch. I'll start you off. WRONG _____________

Yes, I know. 🙁 This should probably go into General Hardware or possibly Tech Support, but I'm tired. I'm cold. I'm hungry... and I'm not quite cranky enough. 😛
 
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
I used to have a problem with my comcast service using an RCA modem where use of the television in close proximity would hump the connection. Apparently, the older models weren't shielded properly. They came and replaced it with a newer modem, which I think is a Motorola, but now the internet cuts out for a few seconds every few minutes and is driving me batty.

ping (gatewayIP) -t

wait 1 minute

<ctrl> C

Call comcast's customer service and report periodic service disruption. Tell them that you're dropping packets to your gateway and remind them that your modem was recently replaced.


I'll try it when I got home since I can't SSH in from work because the whole thing appears to be down now. And calling Comcast's tech support is only slightly more enticing than eating cakes of ground teeth. 🙁

hahaha - well, you're going to have to ping your default gateway anyway. The second you say "speed problem" they're going to have your ping it anyway. 😛

That's the thing--it's not actually a speed problem, when it's up it operates at normal speed. The only problem is that seemingly at random, as often as every 5-10 minutes, there is a lapse of 10-15 seconds where the connection is completely dropped. That's a problem when a streaming server operates over the connection, and it's a major irritation for surfing/downloading/or doing anything that requires continuity.


same problem I had 😛
 
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
That's the thing--it's not actually a speed problem, when it's up it operates at normal speed. The only problem is that seemingly at random, as often as every 5-10 minutes, there is a lapse of 10-15 seconds where the connection is completely dropped. That's a problem when a streaming server operates over the connection, and it's a major irritation for surfing/downloading/or doing anything that requires continuity.

/me slaps forehead. Someone slap ME around a bit with a large trout!

That's another issue, but they'll have you ping your gateway anyway. There's LOTS of things that could be causing that. Micro bursts of data from a roof-top satelite close by, cordless phone or other radio device being used too close to coax/cat5/modem, someone jumping up and down too hard in the house with a loose coax/cat5 or something 😛 That would take someone coming out to the house to fix, almost guaranteed.

Does it happen when you plug that PC's cat5 into another PC?

Bat, what cable medem setup are you using? Are you going throuh a router? I've heard of this problem with certain hardware versions of linksys modems, and with certain models of routers, and with certain NICs. And what program are you running (that uses your net connection) while this occurs?

And can you bring up your cable modem page? Try http://192.168.100.1 look at the signal page, note the downstream power, and SNR, and what QAM (64,128,256) modulation it is on.
 
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
That's the thing--it's not actually a speed problem, when it's up it operates at normal speed. The only problem is that seemingly at random, as often as every 5-10 minutes, there is a lapse of 10-15 seconds where the connection is completely dropped. That's a problem when a streaming server operates over the connection, and it's a major irritation for surfing/downloading/or doing anything that requires continuity.

/me slaps forehead. Someone slap ME around a bit with a large trout!

That's another issue, but they'll have you ping your gateway anyway. There's LOTS of things that could be causing that. Micro bursts of data from a roof-top satelite close by, cordless phone or other radio device being used too close to coax/cat5/modem, someone jumping up and down too hard in the house with a loose coax/cat5 or something 😛 That would take someone coming out to the house to fix, almost guaranteed.

Does it happen when you plug that PC's cat5 into another PC?


The problem exists for all of the PC's on the network, 3 servers, 2 workstations, and a variety of portable devices operating on wifi. It's most notable on the streaming server obviously, which is actually running on virtual hardware (debian is running in a VM layer under 2k3 server because the file server's RAID-5 arrays were originally formatted NTFS but I wanted to run Ampache under linux so they're both using the same NIC albeit different IP's, and the linux box actually streams from SMB mounts on the same physical machine but the files are located in the windows layer so it has to go through the network to itself to accomplish this--very convoluted but it works. Anyhow, I am rambling on about something that doesn't have anything to do with the issue at hand, I'll try pinging the gateway when I get home.
 
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
That's the thing--it's not actually a speed problem, when it's up it operates at normal speed. The only problem is that seemingly at random, as often as every 5-10 minutes, there is a lapse of 10-15 seconds where the connection is completely dropped. That's a problem when a streaming server operates over the connection, and it's a major irritation for surfing/downloading/or doing anything that requires continuity.

/me slaps forehead. Someone slap ME around a bit with a large trout!

That's another issue, but they'll have you ping your gateway anyway. There's LOTS of things that could be causing that. Micro bursts of data from a roof-top satelite close by, cordless phone or other radio device being used too close to coax/cat5/modem, someone jumping up and down too hard in the house with a loose coax/cat5 or something 😛 That would take someone coming out to the house to fix, almost guaranteed.

Does it happen when you plug that PC's cat5 into another PC?


The problem exists for all of the PC's on the network, 3 servers, 2 workstations, and a variety of portable devices operating on wifi. It's most notable on the streaming server obviously, which is actually running on virtual hardware (debian is running in a VM layer under 2k3 server because the file server's RAID-5 arrays were originally formatted NTFS but I wanted to run Ampache under linux so they're both using the same NIC albeit different IP's, and the linux box actually streams from SMB mounts on the same physical machine but the files are located in the windows layer so it has to go through the network to itself to accomplish this--very convoluted but it works. Anyhow, I am rambling on about something that doesn't have anything to do with the issue at hand, I'll try pinging the gateway when I get home.

:shocked: a true nerd!

cooooooooooooooooooooooool... 😀

😛
 
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: OulOat
Nik, you are losing your touch. I'll start you off. WRONG _____________

Yes, I know. 🙁 This should probably go into General Hardware or possibly Tech Support, but I'm tired. I'm cold. I'm hungry... and I'm not quite cranky enough. 😛

And not only are you not fixing the problem, you are contributing to the problem. Shame shame, never thought you would sink so low 😀
 
Originally posted by: OulOat
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: OulOat
Nik, you are losing your touch. I'll start you off. WRONG _____________

Yes, I know. 🙁 This should probably go into General Hardware or possibly Tech Support, but I'm tired. I'm cold. I'm hungry... and I'm not quite cranky enough. 😛

And not only are you not fixing the problem, you are helping the problem. Shame shame, never thought you would sink so low 😀

Oh I'm fixing the problem all right. DEMO's a n00b and my new policy clearly states going *slightly* easier on the n00bs. This one I just felt like helping out a little first. Tomorrow, I'll follow him around flaming him the entire day for him being an infidel!
 
Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
That's the thing--it's not actually a speed problem, when it's up it operates at normal speed. The only problem is that seemingly at random, as often as every 5-10 minutes, there is a lapse of 10-15 seconds where the connection is completely dropped. That's a problem when a streaming server operates over the connection, and it's a major irritation for surfing/downloading/or doing anything that requires continuity.

/me slaps forehead. Someone slap ME around a bit with a large trout!

That's another issue, but they'll have you ping your gateway anyway. There's LOTS of things that could be causing that. Micro bursts of data from a roof-top satelite close by, cordless phone or other radio device being used too close to coax/cat5/modem, someone jumping up and down too hard in the house with a loose coax/cat5 or something 😛 That would take someone coming out to the house to fix, almost guaranteed.

Does it happen when you plug that PC's cat5 into another PC?

Bat, what cable medem setup are you using? Are you going throuh a router? I've heard of this problem with certain hardware versions of linksys modems, and with certain models of routers, and with certain NICs. And what program are you running (that uses your net connection) while this occurs?

And can you bring up your cable modem page? Try http://192.168.100.1 look at the signal page, note the downstream power, and SNR, and what QAM (64,128,256) modulation it is on.

I can't remember off the top of my head, I'll check when I get home. The router is a DL-614+, and there computers on the network all use different nics. (My workstation is onboard Intel gigabit, the server has a Linksys gigabit, the others are mostly onboard or 3com PCI) A variety of programs make use of the connection accross different machines, but the problem seems to occur most frequently when I'm using Mozilla Firebox 1.0 on one machine to access my Ampache server on another (it doesn't just go through the local network, it has to go through dyndns, etc) which uses Apache to serve PHP content, and typically it will hump while I'm running an SQL DB update through the web interface (it's tough to explain if you don't use Ampache, suffice to say I can do it manually over the local network with ease).

As for accessing the cable modem, I don't know as it can be reached from the local network. I can access the router, everything is fine on that end, and typically I suppose you would access the cable modem from my network's external IP but that is forwarded to the web server right now. I'll have to look up the docs on the cable modem when I get back.

 
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